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What are the odds of my girlfriend getting a USA tourist visa?


Stu 12 | 522
25 Jan 2011 #31
It's not that bad.I don't care what they think as long as I am getting my unemployment check every week.(and btw. I paid all taxes and ss so now I can chill a bit).

They should kick your a$$ out of there.
grubas 12 | 1,390
25 Jan 2011 #32
You make me so angry, because it is people like you that are the exact reason why Poland still doesn't have a visa waiver.

Easy bud.Blame illegal immigrants not me,I am cool.

Do you think I want the decision of whether or not I get to see the girl I'm in love with up to a cranky U.S. consular?

You should complain in US Congress not here.

I hope you get deported.

Not a chance bro.
Hey tomorrow I am going to apply for food stamps.Makes you feel better?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
25 Jan 2011 #33
You make me so angry, because it is people like you that are the exact reason why Poland still doesn't have a visa waiver. And

In all fairness, it has nothing to do with the visa waiver. If he's entitled to claim unemployment benefits from the USA, then he's entitled. It won't change a thing about the visa waiver program.

Do you think I want the decision of whether or not I get to see the girl I'm in love with up to a cranky U.S. consular?

If you're so in love with her, there's plenty of English speaking programmes at Polish universities. Tuition usually runs about 5000 Euro a year or so for non-EU citizens. Living costs? You can live here on about 5-6000 Euro easily. So - 10,000 Euro a year. If your parents are pulling in 6 figures a year, it should be no problem for them to give you 10k a year.

Incidentally, I'd say that it might not be so clear cut in your situation that she'll get a visa. With no commitments in Poland and rich parents to bail her out, she might very well overstay her visa - especially if she has no fixed plans in Poland.
OP h0mefry 2 | 23
25 Jan 2011 #34
Incidentally, I'd say that it might not be so clear cut in your situation that she'll get a visa. With no commitments in Poland and rich parents to bail her out, she might very well overstay her visa - especially if she has no fixed plans in Poland.

Her commitment is to return to school and finish her LAST year of highschool? Isn't that a pretty huge commitment?

And she returned 3 months before her student visa expired last time.

Although I am thinking about possibly getting a job teaching english in poland for the summer if the visa doesn't pass.
grubas 12 | 1,390
25 Jan 2011 #35
In all fairness, it has nothing to do with the visa waiver. If he's entitled to claim unemployment benefits from the USA, then he's entitled. It won't change a thing about the visa waiver program.

You are sure right about that.I paid my taxes and now I am entitled.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
25 Jan 2011 #36
Her commitment is to return to school and finish her LAST year of highschool? Isn't that a pretty huge commitment?

Perhaps. Depends what the consular official thinks. However, in her case, it would be wise to have some sort of "purpose" for going to America - attending some sort of summer school would make sense, for instance. However, she'll have to pay for this in advance and book all the accomodation - she won't be able to get away with simply presenting some vague "plan".

She'll be sussed out straight away if she says "no plans except travelling" - it'll be very obvious that she intends to work. The average official isn't stupid - they know that the average Pole wouldn't be able to afford to travel round America for a couple of months by themselves.

And she returned 3 months before her student visa expired last time.

That doesn't count for anything - America doesn't keep track (at least, not in a form accessible to consular officials) of when people left the country.

Although I am thinking about possibly getting a job teaching english in poland for the summer if the visa doesn't pass.

No-one is going to hire a very young American to teach in Poland over the summer - so forget about that. There's precious few jobs as it is - it's highly unlikely that you'll find such a thing.

In all seriousness, why don't you just study here? Would seem a lot easier.
OP h0mefry 2 | 23
25 Jan 2011 #37
No-one is going to hire a very young American to teach in Poland over the summer - so forget about that. There's precious few jobs as it is - it's highly unlikely that you'll find such a thing.

I thought I read somewhere that private schools would be very willing to hire native english speakers even with no teaching experience because of the need for people of native tongue? Even if it's for lousy pay and crappy hours, it would suffice.
JaneDoe 5 | 114
25 Jan 2011 #38
I thought I read somewhere that private schools would be very willing to hire native english speakers even with no teaching experience because of the need for people of native tongue?

Not anymore. Knowing Engish is common now.

Even if it's for lousy pay and crappy hours, it would suffice.

How about working at McDonald's or any other restaurant? It's an idea for young people.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
25 Jan 2011 #39
I thought I read somewhere that private schools would be very willing to hire native english speakers even with no teaching experience because of the need for people of native tongue? Even if it's for lousy pay and crappy hours, it would suffice.

The problem is the work permit. If you're caught working illegally in Poland, it's a year's ban from the Schengen zone - and your details forever kept on the Schengen database. And quite frankly - no-one is going to bother applying for a work permit for someone to work for a couple of months during "dead" time anyway.

Being a native speaker doesn't count for much - Poles have smartened up in this respect. After all - why hire a native (with all the hassle that it involves) when you can hire an excellent Polish teacher with a flawless accent AND the ability to explain tricky concepts in the students mother tongue?

And if you're willing to work for peanuts, schools will just assume that there's something wrong with you. There's no work in summer, anyway!
ChrisPoland 2 | 123
26 Jan 2011 #40
In my opinion the odds are good that she will get a visa esp. if she speaks English well at her appointment and explains what her plans are. I think saying that she is planning to travel (I understand that those are her real plans) is ok and that it is not beyond reach financially for some people in Poland. She should feel free to say that she spent a year on an exchange program and she is going back for a visit and to practice her English before she finishes her last year of high school. She should feel free to say that fortunately for her, her parents will be sponsoring her trip. There's no shame in that.

About getting married and taking advantage of student aid, please contact an Embassy to check what constitutes public benefit in their definition. I remember that when I applied for my husband's resident visa (he is Polish, I am American) there was something in there about my husband not being able to use public benefit (I imagine for some time period).

Also, regardless of the income of parents, student loans are available to all (US) students in the US. My parents are "pulling in 6 figures" as well but I paid for my studies 100% by myself with the help of student loans, a job, and some academic scholarships. I was not eligible for any grant money but loans were not a problem. Paying them back...that was a problem.

And what people are saying about the lack of jobs in the summer for English teachers is absolutely correct.
OP h0mefry 2 | 23
26 Jan 2011 #41
Yeah I'm going to a really big out-of-state school though, and I didn't qualify for any financial aid.. including loans. I'm sure I could get student loans outside of the college itself.. but at 30k per year in tuition/room/board I'd rather not be 120k in debt coming out of college.

My parents can only afford 10k per year, but fortunately enough for me my grandma contributes the rest.

And thank you for the input about her visa. I'm worried because she doesn't already have plans booked as proof of her intentions, after all, why spend money on an expensive plane ticket when you don't even know if you get to go?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
26 Jan 2011 #42
And thank you for the input about her visa. I'm worried because she doesn't already have plans booked as proof of her intentions, after all, why spend money on an expensive plane ticket when you don't even know if you get to go?

Don't be surprised if she gets rejected in this case - confirmed plans are part of what they're looking for. Likewise, even if she gets the visa, she still has to convince the border guard to let her in - and they're not going to do that with someone who has "vague" plans.

My parents can only afford 10k per year, but fortunately enough for me my grandma contributes the rest.

So why not study in Poland? You could certainly manage in Poland on about $13k a year.
OP h0mefry 2 | 23
1 Feb 2011 #43
Just as a followup for everyone... she just got back from the consulor's today. He issued her a 10 year visa!!!!!:)

Thanks for all of your input... i won't have this problem anymore!:)
Harry
1 Feb 2011 #44
Good result for you.

But have you actually given any thought to studying over here? It's a lot more cost effective than the US.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
11 Feb 2011 #45
He got dumped already, so that plan is out of the window.
Wroclaw Boy
11 Feb 2011 #46
even if she gets the visa, she still has to convince the border guard to let her in - and they're not going to do that with someone who has "vague" plans.

rubbish.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
11 Feb 2011 #47
Look at the UK border - it's quite common that someone with a valid visa is refused at the border. You see quite a lot of Americans and Australians refused too, especially if they don't have an onward ticket and don't look to be arriving on business.

The general rule for most countries is that you want to show that you have the means to support yourself as a tourist, as well as behaving like one. Turning up with vague plans and little knowledge of your destination would seem to be a big "here to work" sign.
Wroclaw Boy
11 Feb 2011 #48
You fill out a piece of cardboard on the plane theres a white one and a green one depending if youre Visa citizen waiver or not.

would seem

would seem is correct. Youre just guessing with the post at the end of the day shes done the hard work she has a B1 visa. Only a complete idiot would not get in the US after that.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
11 Feb 2011 #49
Only a complete idiot would not get in the US after that.

Oh, sure - anyone with sense would make sure that they have everything documented to show the border guards.

Mind you, I did once get questioned on the Ukrainian border after telling them that I was going into their country for 10 minutes to buy beer!
OP h0mefry 2 | 23
12 Feb 2011 #50
He got dumped already, so that plan is out of the window.

Actually, you're wrong. Remember my posts asking for translations? My fears were correct, she cheated on me.

I broke up with her because of this. But in a way I can see why, she was lonely. We've been doing this for a year, it's just been too much now. As matter of fact, i cheated on her once too and never told her.

I've learned that long distance relationships just don't work. But she is still coming in the summer to see me, she got a 10 year visa.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
14 Feb 2011 #51
As matter of fact, i cheated on her once too and never told her.

Aren't you the gentleman?

No wonder you were unwilling to move here.
JaneDoe 5 | 114
14 Feb 2011 #52
I broke up with her because of this. But in a way I can see why, she was lonely. We've been doing this for a year, it's just been too much now. As matter of fact, i cheated on her once too and never told her.

Now, that's a solid ground to build a happy relationship on. LOL
OP h0mefry 2 | 23
14 Feb 2011 #53
Aren't you the gentleman?

No wonder you were unwilling to move here.

That's is not the problem. Don't judge me, we mean a lot to each other. Long distance relationships just don't work, as evidenced by the fact that we BOTH cheated on each other.

And she wouldn't let me move there. I'm pursuing an engineering degree at Virginia Tech. I mentioned it to her, and she was appalled. She wants to go to a college in the US close to me, even after all of this.
Wroclaw Boy
14 Feb 2011 #54
Lovely
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
14 Feb 2011 #55
Long distance relationships just don't work, as evidenced by the fact that we BOTH cheated on each other.

I have two friends who are married and who lived nearly 7000 miles apart. Last I checked, neither of them are having sex with anyone else.

I mentioned it to her, and she was appalled.

Of course she was - she didn't want to have the commitment. Spoiled rich girls tend to want it all their own way - the American boyfriend, the local badboy boyfriend...normal.
Wroclaw Boy
14 Feb 2011 #56
Delphi you really have to give up this US hate thing, its pathetic.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
14 Feb 2011 #57
But I don't hate them :(

(just not a fan of the stupid ones)
OP h0mefry 2 | 23
15 Feb 2011 #58
I have two friends who are married and who lived nearly 7000 miles apart. Last I checked, neither of them are having sex with anyone else.

Really man you're being really judgmental... I only made out with a girl at a party when I was drunk. We're 18 years old now... cmon... expect me to pack all of my crap and move to Poland?

And you're wrong, that's not the way she is, but I'm not going to argue with you via polish forums.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,883
15 Feb 2011 #59
delphiandomine wrote:

Mind you, I did once get questioned on the Ukrainian border after telling them that I was going into their country for 10 minutes to buy beer!

Ukraine, USA. Ukraine......USA. Ukraaaaaaaaaine...............USA.

Delphiandomine wrote:

Look at the UK border - it's quite common that someone with a valid visa is refused at the border.

United Kingdom, USA. United Kingdom..........USA. The United Kingdooooooommmmmm.......................USA.

Wroclaw Boy wrote:

Delphi you really have to give up this US hate thing, its pathetic.

ding ding ding!

honestly Delph, you're so grossly ill informed about the USA, coupled with the fact that you've never been there....yet you continue to post this stuff. I know it's tons of fun to kick around the USA, this forum's favorite pastime, but it's inevitable you're gonna get caught slinging BS when you're lacking just about all credentials to do so. The only thing worthy on your resume is "fluent english speaker" if the desired position is "America Basher".

you really should go, Delph. spend a few weeks, see what it's like. have a laugh, walk around, snicker at the fat people, drink the awful domestic brews, rent a car and drive on a 6 lane highway and then pull off into a rest stop and slam down a bacon double cheese burger, that sorta thing. good times, man. good times.

but now i'm just repeating what I've said 1,001 times on PF. thanks for lightening the load, WB.
Wroclaw Boy
15 Feb 2011 #60
honestly Delph, you're so grossly ill informed about the USA,

He doesnt really have a clue about Poland either IMO.


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