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Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays


grubas 12 | 1,391
5 Jul 2012  #271
There is a formula that the US government uses to get rid of visas for every country.

Link to this "formula"?Don't bother you won't find it.Participation in VWP is based on VISA REFUSAL RATE which depends solely on Americans.It is a shame that any retard can post his/her opinion no matter how stupid and untrue it is but I guess it has to be this way.
Ironside 48 | 9,704
5 Jul 2012  #272
It isn't about discrimination

OH ?No ? Not even one person from Lithuania would ever dream to overstay his/her visa! Right ?
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
6 Jul 2012  #273
This means that 88 people have to return to Poland, or leave the US, after 100 receive a visa.

you've got it all wrong, dude. gotta read.

the USA is pretty mum, at least as far as I've been able to find out, about how many poles each year actually overstay. the "formula" they use is the percentage of those that get refused a visa when they apply. The maximum used to be around 10% a few years ago.....it is now 3% so if Poland, in 2012, has more than 3% of its applicants get refused a visa, they remain out of the VWP.
malydzik1
6 Jul 2012  #274
www . gao.gov/new.items/d081142t.pdf

Link to this "formula"?Don't bother you won't find it.

Only two percent of people can overstay their visas to the US from a particular country to qualify, unless the country is on a trail, or probationary status, then it is up to 3.5%. I guess my initial numbers were high for qualification, but the person who gave me the number of Poles overstaying their visas was accurate as he was finishing a three year stint in Krakow. This was five years ago and I'm sure with open EU the numbers have dramatically decreased. The other criteria is that there can't be a visa denial rate above 10% for people applying. Poland is currently at 10.2%, which is really nothing and it is very likely that would be overlooked.

Participation in VWP is based on VISA REFUSAL RATE which depends solely on Americans.It is a shame that any retard can post his/her opinion no matter how stupid and untrue it is but I guess it has to be this way.

I guess this doesn't depend solely on Americans. And yes, you proved your point that any retard can post now matter how stupid and untrue their opinion is.

I guess the only thing gruba in grubas is the fat he has for a brain. Do a little research before you post and you'll look smarter.

FUZZYWICKETS

Well, uscis says 3%, other sites say 10%. I guess we'll never know.
MoOli 9 | 484
6 Jul 2012  #275
FUZZYWICKETS
Honestly with my heart I think consulars are very trained professionals(except few they had who would get chicks wash his cars in bikinis & more,but they have been let go)they go through training to screen people who to let in,Then again they humans also and do errors.

I think Brazil makes its point that visa fees for americans is only cuz they have fees for brazilians(I think its brazil or COSTA RICA not sure).

The policy is working....I am not sure but im sure its weeding out some bad elements as we have enough of them here.Look what happened in Uk all street mafiosis went to UK and creating problems there so I think using screening process is good.If one is clean and have clean intentions with no criminal record why should he worry?
grubas 12 | 1,391
6 Jul 2012  #276
Only two percent of people can overstay their visas to the US from a particular country to qualify, unless the country is on a trail.

You are dumber than I thought.The link you posted contains a lot of data re visa refusal rate but virtually none re number or percentage of visitors overstaying their visas (and I doubt any such data exists).Read it.

about how many poles each year actually overstay. the "formula" they use is the percentage of those that get refused a visa when they apply.

EXACTLY.
MoOli 9 | 484
6 Jul 2012  #277
(and I doubt any such data exists

It does exist!lol where I dont know but for sure it does.Maybe one day wikileaks will tell us where:)
grubas 12 | 1,391
6 Jul 2012  #278
It does exist!lol where I dont know but for sure it does.

I am sure aliens exist too.I don't know where but I am sure they do exist somewhere.However, as long as I cannot prove it no scientific institution wants to take my beliefs into account.
MoOli 9 | 484
6 Jul 2012  #279
Then how would US homeland keep record who is coming and who is leaving the country?SUNSHINE!
grubas 12 | 1,391
6 Jul 2012  #280
Lets focus on hard evidences not speculations.Can you post a link to the list of countries by number or percentage of vistitors to US overstaying their visas?Btw,we are already off topic as even the link posted by md1 says that visa refusal rate not the rate of visitors overstaying is the criterion for VWP.
Meathead 5 | 470
6 Jul 2012  #281
This has been posted before but I don't know of any reason why the US should discriminate against the Poles. The Government of Poland doesn't want their citizens to have free access to America, probably because too many would leave and not come back. It's in the hands of the Polish Government.
grubas 12 | 1,391
6 Jul 2012  #282
I just wonder,are you being serious?
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
6 Jul 2012  #283
Then how would US homeland keep record who is coming and who is leaving the country?

the fact is, people enter the USA through 2 countries mainly on foot or in the back of a van, neither of which provide any documentation of their arrival, or departure. even if they got a visa and flew directly onto american soil, once they overstay, they're not going to try and leave by plane from the USA, they're gonna skate over to Canada or Mexico. keeping track of in and out is a tough job.

The Government of Poland doesn't want their citizens to have free access to America, probably because too many would leave and not come back. It's in the hands of the Polish Government.

Ironside?

It's amazing what flies on this forum as long as an American doesn't write it.
peterweg 36 | 2,316
6 Jul 2012  #284
,professional ones already have legal channels to begin with.

Sorry, America is not a place to go to if you are a professional/qualified as you have no long term right to stay.

Buy a house while working there? forget it. Investing in America would be a disaster if you get kicked out or had to leave at the end of your visa.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
6 Jul 2012  #285
Sorry, America is not a place to go to if you are a professional/qualified as you have no long term right to stay.

who said anything about staying long term?

if long term is your goal, you go on a work visa and you can stay as long as the company wants you there. work visas have to have an expiration date for obvious reasons, but they can easily be renewed by the hosting company. America doesn't kick out tried and true, law abiding tax payers that enter and stay legally.

If you decide to stay, you can marry an american citizen which is the quickest way to citizenship or wait till you are there for 5 years and apply for citizenship then. Whether you go single or with a family, citizenship is no more than 5 years away if the USA is where you decide to live.
MoOli 9 | 484
6 Jul 2012  #286
Buy a house while working there? forget it. Investing in America would be a disaster if you get kicked out or had to leave at the end of your visa.

i have seen this happen to a russian pal of mine in Poland also so why just USA?He had a house,Very successfull business,cars was not allowed to come back to Poland cuz he got confused by the dates to renew his card and was deported on the border from ukraine and cannot now come back to EU for 5 years.
peterweg 36 | 2,316
6 Jul 2012  #287
If you decide to stay, you can marry an american citizen which is the quickest way to citizenship or wait till you are there for 5 years and apply for citizenship then. Whether you go single or with a family, citizenship is no more than 5 years away if the USA is where you decide to live.

Doesn't look viable to me or most people. The general feeling is that emigrating to the USA is basically impossible unless you go there illegally and therefore pointless.

russian pal of mine

Yeah, well thats the problem right there.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
6 Jul 2012  #288
The general feeling is that emigrating to the USA is basically impossible unless you go there illegally and therefore pointless.

Then the general feeling is incorrect.
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
6 Jul 2012  #289
Is it? Then how come you have this illegal immigration problem now and not let’s say way back in the sixties? Could it be all the changes in policies which make an impact on perception and general feeling of those that wish to go there? I wonder.
p3undone 8 | 1,135
6 Jul 2012  #290
Is it difficult for a Polish person to get a visa to the U.S.
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
6 Jul 2012  #291
Is hitting a jackpot in Vegas easy? Whatever the game.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
6 Jul 2012  #292
you're making general comments about immigration.....i don't know where you're going with this.

my point is that if you get a work permit to work in the usa, attaining citizenship is very doable if you are a good worker and obey the law.

Is it difficult for a Polish person to get a visa to the U.S.

what kind of visa?
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
6 Jul 2012  #293
my point is that if you get a work permit to work in the usa, attaining citizenship is very doable if you are a good worker and obey the law.

On a work visa? Surely you jest. On a work visa alone you can’t apply for permanent resistance let alone for citizenship.
p3undone 8 | 1,135
6 Jul 2012  #294
FuzzyWickets,Any kind of visa.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
6 Jul 2012  #295
On a work visa? Surely you jest. On a work visa alone you can’t apply for permanent resistance let alone for citizenship.

What I gather online is that regardless of your visa, if you have spent 5 consecutive years in the USA as a resident with legal papers, you can apply for citizenship. Work visas are generally shorter than 5 years so like I said earlier, if your company decides to keep you longer or resign you or something, you can go ahead and apply. I don't have direct experience with this but from what I see online, that's the deal.

I'd imagine a lot of young people get a study visa and while in school, get married to an American and obtain citizenship that way. As long as you carry something like a minimum of 6 credits per semester your study visa is still valid, you don't even have to be a full time student. You can also work on a study visa.
MoOli 9 | 484
7 Jul 2012  #296
Yeah, well thats the problem right there.

Same thing we can say about Poles in America also,all russians are not drunks,criminals but there are some respectable businessmen also.
heidi
11 Oct 2012  #297
I think that is very well put.
Rysavy 10 | 308
11 Oct 2012  #298
It is hard..
there were so many hoops to leap that this Sept a visit was cancelled. He is wholesome college student from good family and no bad record.

If the rate of complications that military friends had is anything to go by, it is tougher for quite a few EU nations it seems, especially E and Central.

But I have been instrumental in getting legal and illegal mexicans Visas (my mum married a legal and his cousins were NOT). Yet when I used the same process for a simple visit Visa? it PHAiLD. I was shocked. The whole summer was wasted trying to do this. At least most the funds were returned.

Next time it will be a finacee Visa. And I had that process set up for me by an atty, so when we are ready I just date everything and send the packets.

I only hope when we and our kid(s) go other direction it is not so hard.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
16 Oct 2012  #299
But I have been instrumental in getting legal and illegal mexicans Visas (my mum married a legal and his cousins were NOT).

and you don't think the feds take that into consideration as you continue to do your paperwork?

of course "it is hard" for people such as yourself.....and it should be. your situation doesn't exactly put you at the front of the line.
Rysavy 10 | 308
16 Oct 2012  #300
of course "it is hard" for people such as yourself.....

''Such as myself?WTF is that suposed to mean? dukshanee!

A person that fills paperwork to ensure that everything is done correctly and legal and they have access to the needed authorities; attorneys. Therefore ensuring they are tax paying citizens? Who turns in criminals that have records to be deported? That helps the ones who WANT to do it right, get the first steps?

I who still hold my Top Secret Security Clearance until Oct 22 2013? am what kind of person? am a military veteran? have exemplary record? Never had more than a single seatbelt ticket my whole life as a driver? You can say I'm an opinionated ass but you keep your mouth OFF my reputation! You DONT know me!

Instead of telling them to go marry some slut that will take any man that works and have a kid with her? Or go to some ambulance chaser that helps them become yet another ENTITLED minority?

And how does your very SNARKY and SLURRING innuendo change my point there was THREE TIMES MORE paperwork and 20 days more waiting time for a person that had no record, speaks english, intended return to native soil since he is in school, was not here illegal..not even here yet? yet My finnish friend was just in Seattle recent and all she had to do was throw the cash for her Visa and go though customs.

I also had to help a friend's Slovak wife get her papers in order becuase they were gonna deport her-a MILITARY MAN DEPLOYED's Spouse> Sh ealso had harsher restrictions asn 3x teh fokin paperwork til I want to scream at any document that wanted even signatures by the time I was done

There is a DEFINITE prejudicial system in getting Visas for former East block.. I just don't know why


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