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Where do most Polish-Americans identify on the political spectrum?


Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
23 Dec 2011 #121
So perhaps you would care to compare their degree of Polishness to their political leanings?

If you are so interested in their "degrees" of Polishness then I suggest you research their genealogies, but this sort of interest smacks of a creepy obsession with ethnic "purity".

Are the ones who talk about pierogis and Busia more likely (or less likely) to be from a particular part of the political spectrum than those who have actually been to Poland and than those who have done things to help Poland?

That question sounds like it was written by an insane person.
Harry
23 Dec 2011 #122
I would probably support Civic Platform. I think they're doing a great job.

Same as me then (I vote for Civic Platform). That would pretty much put you left of centre by US standards, wouldn't it? And you are a very Polish Polish-American. Do you notice an correlation between the Polishness of Polish-Americans and their political leanings? I'd be tempted to say that the less Polish they are, the more they move towards the Tea Party.

Harry, I can read Polish and I understand the language pretty well. frankly I probably have a better idea than you do on what is going on there. Please learn some Polish dude. You lived there for almost two decades now.

Who says I know no Polish? I can read it reasonably, I don't want to learn how to speak it because then I'd understand it when I hear it whether I wanted to or not and I really do not want to understand what I hear (that's one of the reasons I avoid going to English-speaking countries, I just love not having to listen to what people around me are saying).

That question sounds like it was written by an insane person.

Mods? Perhaps you would like to encourage civil discourse?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
23 Dec 2011 #123
If you are so interested in their "degrees" of Polishness then I suggest you research their genealogies, but this sort of interest smacks of a creepy obsession with ethnic "purity".

Polish-Americans are certainly obsessed with ethnic purity, as witnessed by their attempts to push their Polishness as some sort of superiority. How often do we see them on here, boasting about how big the brains are and how much luck they have with women, and so on. In fact, haven't you used it yourself in that way? I'm sure I remember posts from you about how the Polonia are superior to everyone else based on their genetics.

Sadly, those of us living in Europe know that racial purity is but a myth. It's especially funny to watch Americans (a melting pot if there ever was one) try and claim superiority based on the existence of some woman who used words like "Busia".

That question sounds like it was written by an insane person.

Mods? Is it really appropriate to have all these insults towards mentally ill people on here?
Havok 10 | 912
23 Dec 2011 #124
And you are a very Polish Polish-American.

I don't know, most people here don't seem to notice my Polishness. Frankly I think that no one really gives a sh1t. I vote for what makes sense to me and that's all.

(that's one of the reasons I avoid going to English-speaking countries, I just love not having to listen to what people around me are saying).

That is a description of ignorance Harry.

Polish-Americans are certainly obsessed with ethnic purity, as witnessed by their attempts to push their Polishness as some sort of superiority.

You my fiend are crazy. LMAO
Harry
23 Dec 2011 #125
It would also be interesting to assess if there is any correlation between the likelihood that a Pol-Am is to display that kind of behaviour and their political stance. I'd venture a guess that the more likely such a Pol-Am is to behave in the way you describe, the more likely they are to join the Tea Party. What would you say?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
23 Dec 2011 #126
I think it might depend on their age, actually - the young ones, certainly. The older ones seem to be pro-Kaczynski and yet pro-Democrat, which is wonderfully oxymoronic.

A better correlation might be between the amount of false Polish words ("Golumpkies", "Pierogies", etc) and the amount of Tea Party membership.
Harry
23 Dec 2011 #127
I don’t know, most people here don't seem to notice my Polishness. Frankly I think that no one really gives a sh1t.

No, I meant that you are very Polish in the sense that you were born here, as opposed to just having a busia. Now do you see what I'm asking?

That is a description of ignorance Harry.

Quite possibly. But I find it very relaxing to be completely alone with my own thoughts whenever I want to be, no matter how many people are around me.

The older ones seem to be pro-Kaczynski and yet pro-Democrat, which is wonderfully oxymoronic.

But entirely logical given that Kaczynski can have no effect on them at all but the Democrats can.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
23 Dec 2011 #128
Polish-Americans are certainly obsessed with ethnic purity

Wrong, that is a delusion of yours, delphiandomine, it is not a statement of fact.

How often do we see them on here, boasting about how big the brains are and how much luck they have with women, and so on.

This is an improperly punctuated question, but I do so wonder how often "we" have seen Polish-Americans do this on the forum. You should provide some examples, because I can't think of any.

In fact, haven't you used it yourself in that way?

No, I haven't, but please feel free to peruse my posts and try to contradict me. It would do you good to read the writing of someone who uses logic.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
23 Dec 2011 #129
Delph, politics operates on many levels. Please define what Democrat means in your conception. Thanks! I feel that the demarcation has been diluted since the days of Reagan. That's one reason why I ask.
Havok 10 | 912
23 Dec 2011 #130
No, I meant that you are very Polish in the sense that you were born here, as opposed to just having a busia. Now do you see what I'm asking?

Yes I was born in Poland, I'm the oldest. My brother and sisters were born here. My busia lives in NJ.

Quite possibly. But I find it very relaxing to be completely alone with my own thoughts whenever I want to be, no matter how many people are around me.

Interesting. I would find it highly annoying not being able to understand anyone around me.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
23 Dec 2011 #131
It would do you good to read the writing of someone who uses logic.

More personal attacks.

Mods?

This is an improperly punctuated question, but I do so wonder how often "we" have seen Polish-Americans do this on the forum. You should provide some examples, because I can't think of any.

With pleasure.
Your Polish friends - why do you regard them as such?

Perhaps another relevant question should be : "Is there a correlation between the sexual fantasies of Polish-Americans with their voting preferences in Polish elections?". I recall PolskiMoc was another one who bragged about "banging chicks" and was about as PiS voting as it got.

Delph, politics operates on many levels. Please define what Democrat means in your conception. Thanks! I feel that the demarcation has been diluted since the days of Reagan. That's one reason why I ask.

Democrat is someone who votes for the Democrats, nothing more. I think you're right, too - Clinton blurred the lines, certainly.
Harry
23 Dec 2011 #132
Wrong, that is a delusion of yours, delphiandomine,

It would do you good to read the writing of someone who uses logic.

Instead of discussing the poster, perhaps you would like to discuss the topic? We are currently wondering whether there is a correlation between the connection which a Pol-Am has to Poland and their political leaning. Perhaps you have a view thereon? Are those who talk of pierogis to their busia called Sofia more likely to be Tea Party members than Polish-Americans who have been here? And how do those groups compare to Pol-Ams who were born here?

Interesting. I would find it highly annoying not being able to understand anyone around me.

I can usually get the gist of what somebody is saying if I concentrate hard and get them to help me with what they're saying. Although frankly there is fair correlation between the likelihood that you want somebody to be able to speak to you and their knowledge of English.
Havok 10 | 912
23 Dec 2011 #133
So I guess this is why you don't like Pol-Ams. They can trash you in both languages. hmm?
Harry
23 Dec 2011 #134
Perhaps another relevant question should be : "Is there a correlation between the sexual fantasies of Polish-Americans with their voting preferences in Polish elections?". I recall PolskiMoc was another one who bragged about "banging chicks" and was about as PiS voting as it got.

Not sure about that but here he comes out with gems like "This must explain why the best looking Women in Sweden are Polish. Even though there just 50,000 Poles in Sweden out of approx 10 million & Even though Swedes are known to be so good looking." So the theory about the more likely a Pol-Am is to come out with complete bollocks, the more likely they are to be right-wing is confirmed by him. As is the one about the less likely a Pol-Am is to be Polish, the more likely they are to be Tea Party.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
23 Dec 2011 #135
So I guess this is why you don't like Pol-Ams. They can trash you in both languages. hmm?

Most of them can't speak a word of Polish.

Golumpkies, anyone?
Harry
23 Dec 2011 #136
So I guess this is why you don't like Pol-Ams. They can trash you in both languages. hmm?

Oh, I am perfectly capable of expressing my feelings towards them in two languages. I don't dislike Pol-Ams by default, I only dislike the hypocritical ones and the ones who give Poland a bad name through their bigotry and/or idiocy.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
23 Dec 2011 #137
More personal attacks.

You are wrong yet again, logic is utterly impersonal, Delphiandomine, and the readers of this and other threads can see how I have shown many of your statements to be illogical. This is not an attack upon your person.

As for your example of my supposedly boasting that "Polish ethnic purity" gives me

much luck

with women

You have utterly failed to prove your claim as the post I made describes me getting "lucky" with just one woman and nowhere therein do I ascribe this luck to "Polish ethnic purity".
Harry
23 Dec 2011 #138
You are wrong yet again, logic is utterly impersonal, Delphiandomine, and the readers of this and other threads can see how I have shown many of your statements to be illogical.

Instead of discussing the poster, perhaps you would like to discuss the topic? We are currently wondering whether there is a correlation between the connection which a Pol-Am has to Poland and their political leaning. Perhaps you have a view thereon? Are those who talk of pierogis to their busia called Sofia more likely to be Tea Party members than Polish-Americans who have been here? And how do those groups compare to Pol-Ams who were born here?
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
23 Dec 2011 #139
Was that by any chance due to them having different dates for Poles and other EU citizens to register for the European elections?

Exactly that.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
23 Dec 2011 #140
Clinton definitely obfuscated things. Brzezinski likely welcomed him onboard.

Delph, what does a Democrat mainly stand for?
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
23 Dec 2011 #141
Are those who talk of pierogis to their busia called Sofia more likely to be Tea Party members than Polish-Americans who have been here?

Do you honestly believe that anyone reading this thread knows even one Polish-American who puts an s at the end of pierogi and also has a grandmother named Sofia? I don't think you do. Your question is ridiculous. I suspect that you harp upon the word "busia" because you are still angry that you were suspended for being abusive in a thread about the word "busia".
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
23 Dec 2011 #142
Mods? He's way off topic here...

Do you honestly believe that anyone reading this thread knows even one Polish-American who puts an s at the end of pierogi

well, well, well...

another one!

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