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Unemployed Poles in Ireland : a crash course in milking the system


hudsonhicks 21 | 346
19 Sep 2012 #241
He doesn't like pakis either.

Can't even be arsed replying to that.. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You're just a Mancunian - a full Englishman who associates more with a foreign nation. Traitor and scum of the earth in my views.
Avalon 4 | 1,068
19 Sep 2012 #242
i'd be 100% within my rights to do so, being a British citizen.

What rights?, the two previous governments took those away from you, along with increased income tax, NI and VAT. One of the highest taxed countries in Europe, just to feed the benefits system and the corrupt, EU, gravy train. Stabbings and shootings on a daily basis, an education system that is not fit for purpose, a health service that is being run into the ground and a demoralised, armed forces, not to mention the most expensive forms of public transport.

The British have allowed their freedom of speech to be revoked, have no privacy regarding their communications and live under what is virtually a police state The justice system is a joke

as the punishments dealt out for serious crimes, are laughable.
All you do Hicks is try to find an outlet for your anger and you are not even intelligent enough to realise where the real problems lie. I thank God that I got out 10 years ago, at least my kids will grow up in a safe environment with people of their own kind.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
19 Sep 2012 #243
an education system that is not fit for purpose, a health service that is being run into the ground

Now - both of these are doing just fine in Scotland.

The GCSE reforms are yet another step back in England however.

Probably Indian.

Most likely. He's probably one of those...what are they called, "desi" or something?
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
19 Sep 2012 #244
By refusing to reply, it gives us even more reason to question your "Britishness". And you couldn't be more wrong - I'm proud of my origins and fluency in the language, but I couldn't be more pro-British if I tried. Better to be a Manc than some valley-dwelling sheep-shagger!
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
19 Sep 2012 #245
ONE in four Polish nationals living in Ireland is now receiving the dole, new statistics have revealed, following Judge Mary Devins's controversial remark about social welfare being a "Polish charity".

The extent of the unemployment crisis within the immigrant community in Ireland is revealed in statistics secured by the Sunday Independent, which show that 25 per cent of Polish nationals between the ages of 15 and 64 are on the dole.

The issue of unemployment levels within the immigrant community emerged when, responding to queries in Castlebar District Court about the existence of a Polish charity in Ireland, Judge Devins remarked: "A Polish charity? There is. It's called the social welfare."


independent.ie/opinion/columnists/john-drennan/one-in-four-polish-workers-in-country-claiming-dole-3190040.html

The Irish state must financially implode. Its the only way this madness can cease.
milky 13 | 1,657
19 Sep 2012 #246
The Dole in Poland is 37 Euros a week.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
19 Sep 2012 #247
That's nice.

I predicted that this would happen and SeanBM et al scoffed at my claims.

Eventually Ireland will run out of cash.
milky 13 | 1,657
19 Sep 2012 #248
The dole in Ireland has been a gravy train for the last 25 years, the Poles are just taking advantage of it, like the Irish. Are you suggesting the Poles be kicked off it or everyone should be after a period of time. I reckon the dole in Ireland will be reduce by about 50% over the next year or so. I cant understand how the IMF haven't put the booth in,yet.

Not that i care for the opinion of a nazi.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
19 Sep 2012 #249
Are you suggesting the Poles be kicked off it or everyone should be after a period of time

Citizens only. At a vastly reduced rate. No hard cash. All recipients issued with a debit card.

I reckon the dole in Ireland will be reduce by about 50% over the next year or so.

It wont. It would cause a revolution. One day we will wake up and find out that the state is bankrupt.

That day is coming.

Not that i care for the opinion of a nazi.

Lol. What is keeping things from boiling over is emigration. The same old valve used all the time. Australia's current bubble makes ours look well managed. Eventually they will pull the WHV and start deporting some of the Irish clowns over there. Impossible to get into America unless you are wealthy and Canada only issues 5 thousand or so visas a year. With the dole cut and the lack of job opportunities at home and abroad, people will go apeshiiit. Suicides, riots, crime etc will go through the roof. Hell, it already is. Stock up on tinned goods and make sure your home is well protected. Join a gun club and legally get yourself a piece.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
19 Sep 2012 #250
I predicted that this would happen and SeanBM et al scoffed at my claims.

Are you that stupid that you really never understood what I wrote?

It just goes to show how pointless it is even trying to talk with you, I see you are studying Simon Mol now, get a life.

One day we will wake up and find out that the state is bankrupt.

Yes, Ireland is bankrupt and it was the Irish citizens who did it, cop on would ya.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
19 Sep 2012 #251
Yes, Ireland is bankrupt and it was the Irish citizens who did it, cop on would ya.

Its not yet bankrupt. If you think it is, you dont know the meaning of the term. If the country was bankrupt, teachers wouldnt get paid, the streetlights would not come on and the ATMs would stop issuing cash.

Its a nightmare scenario and its going to happen shortly. It worries me deeply.

Are you that stupid that you really never understood what I wrote?

You told me that they would all go home when the boom was over and that they were only here for a few years to work and save up some cash. But they are still here! On the dole! Like I predicted.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
19 Sep 2012 #252
You told me that they would all go home when the boom was over and that they were only here for a few years to work and save up some cash

I never said that, I said that Irish people are to blame for Ireland's catastrophic economic crisis.
It really is pointless talking to you at all, you just make up stuff in that head of yours.
milky 13 | 1,657
19 Sep 2012 #253
But they are still here! On the dole! Like I predicted.

so the final solution ye? I said they would never go home as long as Poland's average wage is twice as low as the Irish Dole. The Dole in Ireland needs to be seriously reduced for all tax payers, not just minorities, Nazi-boy,,Sean is right ,,you're too stupid..
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
19 Sep 2012 #254
I never said that, I said that Irish people are to blame for Ireland's catastrophic economic crisis.
It really is pointless talking to you at all, you just make up stuff in that head of yours.

You did. Go back to the threads on mass immigration from 2009.

And bankers, politicans etc are responsible. Not the Irish people.

I said they would never go home as long as Poland's average wage is twice as low as the Irish Dole

Dole should be for citizens only. And vastly reduced. It wont be. They will take a couple of euro off it in the next budget. The price of a pint. Just to delay the inevitable.

not just minorities

Apart from the UK, what other countries would pay so many foreigners to remain in their country?

Irelands on the verge of doing a Zim and dopes like you still think this stuff is alright.

Sheer unadulterated madness.
milky 13 | 1,657
19 Sep 2012 #255
relands on the verge of doing a Zim and dopes like you still think this stuff is alright.

are you still getting your permanent disability allowance??
Less777 - | 50
19 Sep 2012 #256
Eventually Ireland will run out of cash.

Is that even possible?

And bankers, politicans etc are responsible. Not the Irish people.

I suppose they are immigrants too.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
19 Sep 2012 #257
You did. Go back to the threads on mass immigration from 2009.

No I didn't, you go back and look, look well.
The fact that you even mention this means you already looked and couldn't find anything that helps.

And bankers, politicans etc are responsible. Not the Irish people.

Correction, the Irish bankers and Irish politicians are part of what makes up the Irish people.
At least you finally listen, pity that it's far far too late.

The dole is a drop in the ocean against what Irish people have done, selliing off the national resources, no future, congratulations on looking the wrong way.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
19 Sep 2012 #258
People tend to focus on the banks and of course they are a massive drain. But they ignore the simple fact that the state is spending 13 billion more than it takes in.

Social welfare is one of the main outgoings from the exchequer.

According to that article I linked to, most Poles are on the JA. So they are longterm recipients of the scratch and have exhausted their stamps. Cut them off and them alone and thats half a billion saved. Cut off non europeans and you would double it. Fair enough, you are on JB so you paid your dues. But once that runs out, heres a plane ticket.

This is basic stuff, like. If you were in personal debt up to your eyeballs you wouldnt be handing out charity left, right and centre.

The dole is a drop in the ocean against what Irish people have done, selliing off the national resources, no future, congratulations on looking the wrong way.

Are you expecting us to pay your pension? You are near your fifties, right?

A yay or nay shall suffice.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
19 Sep 2012 #259
Are you expecting us to pay your pension?

It's pointless talking to you, you just make up stuff in that wee head of yours.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
19 Sep 2012 #260
Its a simple question. You are claiming that

selliing off the national resources

What do you mean here? The oil off the west cost? What exactly?

what Irish people have done

What have they done? Apart from electing politicians with room temperature iqs, like?
Less777 - | 50
19 Sep 2012 #261
Are you expecting us to pay your pension?

oh lets go and fly a kite,lets go and rob a bank!
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
19 Sep 2012 #262
What do you mean here? The oil off the west cost? What exactly?

Yes and the whole mortgage crisis.

What have they done? Apart from electing politicians with room temperature iqs, like?

The bankers and politicians are Irish, are you totally devoid of common sense?
If they were Polish during the catastrophe, you'd have a point but you just go on and on like a broken record, looking the other way while Ireland is crippled because of Irish people. It's really no wonder the Irish bankers and politicians get away with it because of fools like you looking for an external enemy to blame, it's a pity and real pity.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
20 Sep 2012 #263
Riiiiighht.

Anyway, if you expect your pension to be provided by the state or a significant part of it, speak to an expert in that field before the next budget in December goes through. You could end up screwed as they are drafting in new regulations etc.

Just a heads up.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
20 Sep 2012 #264
Anyway

Can't defend your argument so attack the person, will you ever grow up.
hudsonhicks 21 | 346
20 Sep 2012 #265
"irlandia & brytanii" are now very prominent piece of Polish folklore throughout the country. The entire Polish population knows about the fruits and benefits of the Islands.

Yes, The Islands is a common term for our country's. mojawyspa.co.uk

The huge influx in such a short space of time, less than 10 years has facilitated the ghetto experience more than the Pakistanis or Indians could have ever dreamed of.

The average Polish Immigrant, will flock to where the Poles are at, find employment, register a national insurance. Forming another little piece of the Sub-Community within out country.

Watching POLSAT TV at home, shopping exclusively at Polski Sklep, Polish bars and pubs are popping up, Polish Kindergarten. Services can be found in the form of Polski Salon, Polish Plumbers, Polish

The only thing British they're interested in are Benefits, Social Housing & health-care. Even then, they'll still moan and complain.

What these Eastern-Bloc hillbillies are essentially doing, is creating a little Poland with our infrastructures and services.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,343
20 Sep 2012 #266
Yes, the entire island is in great danger. You, the British, may feel like the indigenous population of America or the Aborigines of Australia facing the arrival of the European herds in their lands. The island may soon change its looks in that the indigenous British may be closed in the Reserves and will be provided Benefits, Social Housing & Health-care by the Poles.
Less777 - | 50
20 Sep 2012 #267
The only thing British they're interested in are Benefits, Social Housing & health-care. Even then, they'll still moan and complain.

You Indians still complain about Imperialism and colonization. Yet, you are very British when it suits you.
Wroclaw Boy
20 Sep 2012 #268
The only thing British they're interested in are Benefits, Social Housing & health-care. Even then, they'll still moan and complain.

I agree with that. Except they do initially come here for work, then they find out that they're actually much better off working the absolute minimum and claiming benefits for everything possible.

I mean it doesnt make sense to have a Father and Mother working all crappy hours in crappy jobs, when only the father can work and they still get all kinds of lovely little extra benefits when theyre legally classed as a low income family.

These benefits are in place for less well off British families, and its a great system for the underprivileged, it was never meant for Eastern Europeans to come here and to be exploited. They are milking every last friggen drop and that bothers me. If Brits could go there and do something similar it wouldn't be so bad. Im sure the average Pole has issues believing in the benefit system in the UK, but its true, ohh yeah its true alright. We even provide translators.

For the most part these parasites have no national insurance contributions, they essentially have no right, but the legal loop hole allows them full benefits. Its completely fooked up.
pam
20 Sep 2012 #269
[quote=Less777]These benefits are in place for less well off British families, and its a great system for the underprivileged, it was never meant for Eastern Europeans to come here and to be exploited. They are milking every last friggen drop and that bothers me. If Brits could go there and do something similar it wouldn't be so bad. Im sure the average Pole has issues believing in the benefit system in the UK, but its true, ohh yeah its true alright. We even provide translators.

You are absolutely right WB, and it is the system which is flawed.
Please don't take this personally, but because you feel so strongly about this situation, i am wondering if your brother in law, and his family are in receipt of any of our benefits.

You mentioned in your thread that your BIL is now working, and has a flat. I don't know what type of work he does, but i would guess it isn't that well paid unless his English is quite good and he is skilled.

How does he manage to pay rent and support a family on one income ( I am presuming his wife looks after the children ) ?
On a low wage he would be entitled to Housing Benefit, Child benefit and child/working tax credit.
Does he not claim any of these benefits for his family?
He would be perfectly entitled to them now he is resident here.
Apologies if he isn't claiming a penny off the benefit system, but if he is, then he is one of the many that you are complaining about.
Wroclaw Boy
20 Sep 2012 #270
Apologies if he isn't claiming a penny off the benefit system, but if he is, then he is one of the many that you are complaining about.

and that would change my opinion how exactly? there are no favoritism's - it is what it is. You think i shouldn't have written the above because i have a non blood family member who may be eligible? fcuk that. No body said it would be easy.


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