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Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please?


oxon 4 | 164
27 Feb 2012  #61
You're lucky avalon and in a fortunate position. No doubt you have nice neighbours in a nice suburb and you all get along splendidly using your pigeon Polish. How would your new countrymen respond though if you started hanging around in gangs n the middle of Warsaw's shopping malls, claiming benefits and living in flats depriving locals of accommodation ?

How would they feel that should you find work, there were 3/4 million Poles unemployed still looking?

We have a catastrophic problem here brought about by lazy, inept politicians.
Harry
27 Feb 2012  #62
How would they feel that should you find work, there were 3/4 million Poles unemployed still looking?

There are plenty of Poles looking for work but in 15 years no Pole has ever even suggested that one of those Poles should have my job.

But, of course, there are always jobs for those who actually want to work.
oxon 4 | 164
27 Feb 2012  #63
There are plenty of Poles looking for work but in 15 years no Pole has ever even suggested that one of those Poles should have my job.

A bold statement 'arry and in order to comprehend fully where you are coming from, I would need to understand your industry which seemingly bars Poles from applying. Do tell what your role is in your working life and your industry title please?
Harry
28 Feb 2012  #64
your industry which seemingly bars Poles from applying.

Of course it doesn't. One of my co-workers who does exactly the same job as me is a Pole. Another co-worker who does the same job as me is not European. We are hired on the basis of our skills and our work. I can understand you have difficulties dealing with the mere concept of either of those things.
Wroclaw Boy
28 Feb 2012  #65
Oxon comes here looking to bash a few Poles no doubt but ends up arguing with Brits, quite ironic that isnt it 'arry?
Harry
28 Feb 2012  #66
The 'gentleman' does strike me as the type who could start an argument in a telephone box (and no doubt lose it too, something which he would most certainly also blame on immigrants).
Jimmu 2 | 157
28 Feb 2012  #67
doing jobs for the elitists that no self respecting person would do.

So let me get this straight. They don't do any work, but they steal jobs from you by taking work you refuse to do?
oxon 4 | 164
28 Feb 2012  #68
They don't do any work, but they steal jobs from you by taking work you refuse to do?

There's 2 million of them here Jimmu. Some take the jobs others could do....tradesmen, bus drivers, admin staff, the list is endless and some come for the benefits.

Poles don't behave like French, German etc. They act like 3rd world refugees and have no concept of Western culture. it's acutely embarrassing to be labelled Caucasian alongside them. No dignity.
Barney 14 | 1,469
28 Feb 2012  #69
These meetings of yours, what do you discuss besides wanting people to go home and restore pride in your nation.

Have you formulated a strategy to make this happen? Once that happens what is the economic policy, your way forward. I would imagine the debates on the finer points of macro economics are electrifying.

I would like to hear you views on Britishness and where you stand on devolution of powers to the English regions or Scottish and Welsh independence. Do you think British pride will eventually become English pride?
oxon 4 | 164
28 Feb 2012  #70
In a word 'No' Barney. I have no time whatsoever for the small minded parochial mindset that is rampant in Scotland right now. Wee Alex is suffering from disillusionment.

No time on here to discuss my manifesto. No one would read it here in any case.
ladykangaroo - | 165
28 Feb 2012  #71
There's 2 million of them here

Yes, if "here" means your imagination.
I have already shown you the charts with more precise data.
Barney 14 | 1,469
28 Feb 2012  #72
No time on here to discuss my manifesto. No one would read it here in any case.

A manifesto is quite an advanced document you have thought about this a lot.
If you could give me some pointers particularly on Farm subsidies and the disposal of farm waste I would be grateful. I have been considering voting BNP but I'm not sure where they stand on many issues of concern to me.
oxon 4 | 164
28 Feb 2012  #73
Barney

bnp.org.uk

You will be emboldened .

Yes you did indeed show me some 'charts' L.K. Obviously you haven't paid any attention to my wonderful response.
Barney 14 | 1,469
28 Feb 2012  #74
You will be emboldened

I'm a bit nervous what if the neighbours find out?
ladykangaroo - | 165
28 Feb 2012  #75
Obviously you haven't paid any attention to my wonderful response.

Be a darling, throw me a link to that response, would you?
Barney 14 | 1,469
28 Feb 2012  #76
bnp.org.uk

It doesn't have an Irish language section, Is there a branch in Andersonstown, that would be handy?
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
28 Feb 2012  #77
So now there's links to neo-nazi websites. Classy.
oxon 4 | 164
28 Feb 2012  #78
You need to stop living in the past Johhny. It's not all skinheads and bovver boots now. A respectable organization that has more in common with socialist policies than fascist ones.

You need to read my own post LK 'Why do Poles think they are wanted' etc.
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
28 Feb 2012  #79
It's not all skinheads and bovver boots now. A respectable organization

So some of them have bought cheap suits. Same people, same long list of convictions for violent crimes, same thugs.

more in common with socialist policies than fascist ones.

Stop being disingenuous. You know very well indeed that the dividing line between socialist and nationalist economic policies is inchoate.
thebadmonkey 2 | 71
28 Feb 2012  #80
it's acutely embarrassing to be labelled Caucasian alongside them. No dignity.

To be frank your an embarrassment to yourself. The BNP are scum. I'd like to use a more polite word for them but none exists. As for dignity ? BNP? Dignity? Oh dear lord....
oxon 4 | 164
28 Feb 2012  #81
Same people, same long list of convictions for violent crimes, same thugs.

You kill me Jonny, you really do. Whilst undoubtedly there has been violence in the past I ask you to compare the damage they did to that of the swindling, cheating politicians who were fiddling their expenses. How many were jailed? and how many more should have been incarcerated.

We have stood by and watched those people start illegal wars which killed and maimed millions, curry favour with big business and banks so that over 80% of the current front benchers are millionaires and all you trump on about are a couple of fisticuff fights which probably did little lasting damage.

Thousands of young British guys died in needless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and then the coup de gras.....open the floodgates and smash the working classes by bringing in millions of foreigners from the Eastern Bloc so that , if all I've mentioned hasn't pissed us off, then this surely will.

And will you be brave enough to tell us all who you voted for Brainless Monkey ??
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
28 Feb 2012  #82
When I'm on a real computer later, rather than an iPhone, I'll post a list of the organizers' crimes. However for now you can rest assured that the BNP is an extreme right-wing fringe 'party'.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,445
28 Feb 2012  #83
However for now you can rest assured that the BNP is an extreme right-wing fringe 'party'.

as if he didn't know that. Why feeding the troll?
thebadmonkey 2 | 71
28 Feb 2012  #84
Oh the irony. A BNP support going on a monologue about corrupt, swindling politicians.

Hell your own right wing ilk believe the BNP and Nick Griffin are corrupt

thebritishresistance.co.uk/guest-writers/1246-panorama-an-alternative-viewpoint-from-paul-golding

Now lets take a little wander through the BNP's activities of late:

guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/apr/23/bnp-nick-griffin-race - where Nick Griffin claims 'bloodless genocide'. Yeah, I'm sure Rwandans and the survivors of the Shoah would agree with the use of the word genocide this context. But then again, he's always claimed the Jewish Holocaust was a myth, did he not? Oh yes and was known to spout rubbish about Jewish Conspiracies while defending the Ku Klux Klan. Niceeeee

dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1273583/General-Elect ion-2010-BNP-candidate-Bob-Bailey-filmed-fighting-Asian-men-key-battle-ground-Barking.html

From your own newpaper of choice, BNP candidate kicking a youth multiple times while he was lying prone on the ground. Classy.

Some video compilations of the brave souls in the BNP:

youtube.com/watch?v=tLwYwquBrn0
BNP/EDL violence, Stoke on Trent

youtube.com/watch?v=8zt02LfRc48
BNP shouting rascist abuse in Manchester

Interview with BNP member who discusses how the BNP used "hammers, pieces of wood, sticks and motorcycle helmets" to discuss BNP policy on "free speech" with a library caretaker and several women, hospitalizing 17. I guess their are just misunderstood?

youtube.com/watch?v=NN8MZv6Nyqc
BNP members joking about Nazi concentration camps...

Dignity you said?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,860
28 Feb 2012  #85
From your own newpaper of choice, BNP candidate kicking a youth multiple times while he was lying prone on the ground. Classy.

That was a good scrap.

If some pak chap spat at you, would you walk away?

The fat lad in the suit put in a fine performance.
oxon 4 | 164
28 Feb 2012  #86
Its almost like dealing with a child talking to you B.M. You post links on here from mainstream news media which tells me an awful lot about your level of intelligence. You really are to be pitied

because the obscene news that 212,000 foreign workers found employment in Britain last year while the number of unemployed British people rose at the same time by 208,000, an investigation revealed that foreign criminals were responsible for a quarter of all offences committed in London last year.

While media reports of the Metropolitan Police statistics reveal that people from Eastern European countries like Poland, Romania and Lithuania were responsible for more than 11,000 crimes in London, the total number of crimes committed in London by foreigners overall amounts to nearly 47,000.

These were the foreign criminals who were caught - in one British city - in one year.

And while these numbers are offensive enough, the real level of foreign and immigrant crime will be far higher. Statistics can be manipulated by those in power to present a totally different picture of the reality and as usual the clues to such manipulation are in the use of words.
teflcat 5 | 1,032
28 Feb 2012  #87
an investigation revealed that foreign criminals were responsible for a quarter of all offences committed in London last year.

Any source for that?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,860
28 Feb 2012  #88
They show the nationality of criminals 'proceeded against' - either charged and taken to court, fined or cautioned - by the force over a year and the nature of the crime. From September 2010 to August 31 last year, the Met proceeded against 195,714 alleged criminals. Of those, 46,588 were foreign nationals - or 24 per cent of the total. The remaining 149,126 individuals were British.

Seven of the top ten offender nationalities were European. Poland came top with 4,742 alleged offenders, ahead of Romania with 3,952 and Lithuania with 2,561. Police processed 436 Australians. The programme makers spoke to one Polish ex-offender who said the British legal system was weak.

Polish criminals thought British prisons were like being in 'a spa', he said, adding they would 'think twice' if they thought they would be sent home to serve time.

liveleak.com/view?i=036_1329578900&comments=1
teflcat 5 | 1,032
28 Feb 2012  #89
If it's true, then post an authoratitive link. I'm not saying it's not true; I'd just like to see the stats.

I sometimes look at the London Met's website, where you can punch in a postcode and see what's been happening in a given area, with a breakdown of types of crime. It appalls me to see how my old place has gone to hell, but I wonder how many of the crimes were comitted by foreigners. It doesn't say.
oxon 4 | 164
28 Feb 2012  #90
Lets look at the London riots for starters.


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