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Crying Polish truck driver on British roads is Internet hit


eberhart 13 | 120
10 Jul 2012  #151
The knife aside his defenders keep ignoring that fact that he refused to leave when told and after nearly everyone else did. He then cried like an infant throwing a tantrum when they took him out to sort it. His behavior was ridiculous regardless of where he was from.
p3undone 8 | 1,135
10 Jul 2012  #152
PlasticPole,I believe that could very well be the case.
monia 3 | 212
10 Jul 2012  #153
I don't know why you are getting so upset about it.

You know, you are a mature woman so you know that every case should be judged separately . Your case was different . Period .
If it was serious he would be disarmed and charged in a minute I can assure you .

Just use your common sense when judging this situation. The cops were totally aware of the fact that he was totally harmless person and was using this knife for his dinner, that`s exactly why they started a show in front of the camera and that was mean !. They knew from the very begining whom they were dealing with otherwise the whole situation would be handled without a cameraman .

You people who defend those cops just show lack of sensitivity and can`t judge this case objectively, because you are British and thus you easily can fall into a prejudice. So , don`t call me the one who lacks obejectivity . From a legal point of view they acted unprofessionally .
eberhart 13 | 120
10 Jul 2012  #154
And you being Polish can act with the utmost objectivity right?

By the way I am not British nor Polish and think the police were fine and the driver was a fool.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,665
10 Jul 2012  #155
situation would be handled without a cameraman

I do actually agree with you here Monia! The camera thing these days is intrusive and unnecessary.

because you are British and thus you easily can fall into a prejudice.

hmm...well I think we are all guilty of that about our own countries, some more than others......
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The cops were totally aware of the fact that he was totally harmless person

I don't think that is ever a given fact in police work.

From a legal point of view they acted unprofessionally .

if that were the case, the footage would have 'disappeared'
jon357 63 | 14,124
10 Jul 2012  #156
they started a show in front of the camera and that was mean !. They knew from the very begining whom they were dealing with otherwise the whole situation would be handled without a cameraman .

Monica, quit moaning and admit that if you still stand by the above statement then you also think Poles a wrong for having a similar show about cops and lorry drivers.

Or forever hold your peace.
monia 3 | 212
10 Jul 2012  #157
Yeah , right , I should have checked you are an American suffering from so called - Poland`s denial syndrome , aren`t you ?

It will last for some time , but you can shorten this time to minimum if you start accepting life the way it goes in Poland .Don`t criticize but rather try to understand . Very healthy approach . Before complaining about Polish lifestyle start using your brain it will help . Don`t try to compare and question reality , that`t the biggest problem you may meet because you might never come out of the syndrome you got into .
eberhart 13 | 120
10 Jul 2012  #158
Monia I have lived here a long time and know all about Poland's good and bad. You are part of the bad with your smug and nationalistic behavior rooted not in reality but in the fantasy of your own mind.
jon357 63 | 14,124
10 Jul 2012  #159
smug and nationalistic behavior rooted not in reality but in the fantasy of your own mind.

Exactly. It does nobody any favours and ultimately presents Poland in a bad light to outsiders who reading that trash might thing that we are all like that.

And yes, the lorry driver was a jerk and there is no valid excuse for his behaviour. He got off extremely lightly!
monia 3 | 212
10 Jul 2012  #160
You are part of the bad

Oh , I am sorry I don`t fit in your picture of a nice Polish lady , but I can live with it . I just wanted to be helpful, because I have been born here contrary to you .

My aproach to reality is firmly based in my roots , historical knowledge , facts, common sense , responsibility , clear communication and straightforwardness . But if you don`t like it just skip my posts .
eberhart 13 | 120
10 Jul 2012  #161
So your knowledge of proper UK Police procedure is rooted in your being born in Poland?

I like a lot about Poland. And a lot about Poles. The behavior you are exhibiting is not one of those things and thankfully not extant in every Pole...though it is in many. Why can't you just be reasonable instead of so blindly nationalistic? There is a lot about the USA I don't like and have no problem owning up to those behaviors as a generality in my fellow Americans. Why can't you just do the same? It isn't difficult. Just drop the ego.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,665
10 Jul 2012  #162
My aproach to reality is firmly based in my roots , historical knowledge , facts, common sense , responsibility , clear communication and straightforwardness

and yet when someone gives a rational and reasonable argument, you do not answer.
jon357 63 | 14,124
10 Jul 2012  #163
What puzzles me is how someone can claim that their 'approach to reality' can be based on roots. If there's any basis for that there's probably a Nobel Prize for biology in the offing.
monia 3 | 212
10 Jul 2012  #164
proper UK Police procedure

Just common sense , dear .and by comparing them with standardised procedures employed by both countries through EU regulations .
eberhart 13 | 120
10 Jul 2012  #165
Monia those officers were extremely professional and very gentle. I am not sure what your complaint is with them.

And you are most certainly NOT exhibiting common sense. Common sense doesn't succumb to ridiculous nationalistic drama.
monia 3 | 212
10 Jul 2012  #166
I`ve explained a proper way already but I will remind you - they should have shown especially in front of the camera their professionalism .

They should ask the man for documents , after checking and finding out that he was not a British citizen ask him if he understands English if not try to phone a translator to communicate with him . They did just a miserable show , nothing to be called professional cops on duty .
eberhart 13 | 120
10 Jul 2012  #167
And you know they didn't try to ask for documents how? or that they didn't have them? They knew he was Polish and after learning he spoke no English they took him to the car where a translator spoke to him in the radio. Not a problem.

I give up with you...your typical "wear someone down until they are tired of your nonsense" tactic has worked. But it only means I am finished arguing...not that you are correct. Lest you think you somehow "won" something.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,665
10 Jul 2012  #168
after checking and finding out that he was not a British citizen ask him if he understands English if not try to phone a translator to communicate with him

have you actually watched it through, or were you too busy foaming at the mouth to pay attention and notice the interpreter called in minutes?

You would be a terrible barrister.
4 eigner 2 | 831
11 Jul 2012  #169
I am not British nor Polish and think the police were fine and the driver was a fool.

hey, you actually insulted fools, LOL
Ironside 48 | 9,750
11 Jul 2012  #170
You are part of the bad with your smug and nationalistic behavior

what nationalistic behaviour?

My aproach to reality is firmly based in my roots , historical knowledge , facts, common sense , responsibility , clear communication and straightforwardness . But if you don`t like it just skip my posts .

You flatter yourself, your approach based on stubbornness is firmly unrealistic and has nothing to do with common sense. You are alter ego of Harry.
eberhart 13 | 120
11 Jul 2012  #171
Her nationalistic behavior is evident as is that of the other "Poles are so picked on and are never wrong" types here. You are either baiting (most likely) or dense.
Ironside 48 | 9,750
11 Jul 2012  #172
Her nationalistic behavior is evident as is that of the other "Poles are so picked on and are never wrong" types here.

Such attitude is called paranoia or tribal. I fail to see nationalistic behaviour here!

hey, you actually insulted fools, LOL

You are suffering of stiff lip syndrome?lol Don't worry so do I.

Different cultures have different standards of behaviour. Also those standards change in time. For example in middle ages in Europe it was quite normal for men to cry openly.

According to Polish standards the driver behaved strange, I guess he was suppressing his anger and frustration in this way.
No big deal ! There are plenty nutter at large.
f stop 25 | 2,513
11 Jul 2012  #173
Once again, the fact that he is Polish has nothing to do with it. He's a moron, counting on others to take pity on him. Those that defend his behaviour are not doing Poland any favours.
4 eigner 2 | 831
11 Jul 2012  #174
Those that defend his behaviour are not doing Poland any favours.

agree. Smart comment.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
11 Jul 2012  #175
He's a moron, counting on others to take pity on him.

That is a rather callous view. He stopped on the side of the road with several other trucks in a traffic jam. He was preparing his dinner because he was probably hungry when some British pigs came up to hassle him. He was as exasperated as any hungry person is whose meal is interupted by unwelcome intruders.

Once again, the fact that he is Polish has nothing to do with it.

O.K.

Those that defend his behaviour are not doing Poland any favours.

^ If his Polishness has nothing to do with it then why do you feel the need to add this? You seem to be implying that defending an exasperated Polish truck driver is somehow unfavorable to Poland.
p3undone 8 | 1,135
11 Jul 2012  #176
Des Essenties,the man should definitely not be vilified,but he messed up;man up,take your ticket and move on.That's what I say.Where it

happened and where he was from is inconsequential.It's bad enough that he had to be humiliated on tv as well.Lesson learned.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
11 Jul 2012  #177
Des Essenties,the man should definitely not be vilified

I agree.

but he messed up

Stopping on the side of the highway isn't really a mess. Don't exaggerate the magnitude of his offense. Let's not make the Polish discussion forum into a contest over who can be he most uptight authoritarian square. It would be un-Polish.

man up,take your ticket and move on.

I don't know if you've ever been hungry and had your dinner interupted but I suspect that if some people, who weren't bacon, had interupted that hungry driver's repast he'd have told them where to go and maybe even showed them physyically, but the fact that they were coppers meant that he couldn't and so he wept out of frustration. Far from not "manning up" the truck driver expressed the angst we all feel in modern society when rude authority figures hassle us with impunity, because they have the apparatus of the state behind them. That driver is more of a man than meek conformists who bow down before authority and lick its boots like craven dogs.

Lesson learned.

rybnik 18 | 1,462
11 Jul 2012  #178
I don't know if you've ever been hungry and had your dinner interupted but I suspect that if some people, who weren't bacon, had interupted that hungry driver's repast he'd have told them where to go and maybe even showed them physyically, but the fact that they were coppers meant that he couldn't and so he wept out of frustration

He's a grown man, not a peripubecent girl on her first period! For a "professional" of many years you'd think he would plan his pit stops more thoughtfully. Truth is, he was lazy, pulled over and when caught went into his "why are you persecuting me" routine.....I would not be so surprised if a novice truck driver acted that way but for a grown man of so many years experience to squeal like a little spoiled brat is simply revolting to watch. Wstyd! Shame on Stasiu.

he messed up;man up,take your ticket and move on.That's what I say.Where it happened and where he was from is inconsequential

Yes
p3undone 8 | 1,135
11 Jul 2012  #179
Des Essenties,By messed up,just a figure of speech;You probably would have said the same thing if I said he made a mistake.I'm not trying to

make you look like an authoritarian square.If I was hungry,I may well have done the same thing,but I definitely would not be shocked if a cop

came and gave me a ticket.I don't doubt for a second that he is a good man,I don't think it makes him any less.Is you want to make the man

a poster boy for the savage,brutal and appalling treatment of people at the hands of the police;go ahead.I think he thought he was going to get arrested and cried;understandable;he wasn't.He got a ticket and went on his way.
rybnik 18 | 1,462
11 Jul 2012  #180
I think he thought he was going to get arrested and cried;understandable;he wasn't.He got a ticket and went on his way.

I wasn't convinced. I work in a prison and am subjected to the best manipulators our society can muster. Stasiu wasn't convincing. He's done this before. What got him going was the fact that the cops were'nt buying his act. He knew all along it was about a ticket and nothing more. Stasiu thought he'd skombinowac his way out of it but it didn't work.


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