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Rihanna complains about lack of privacy on Polish beach


spiritus 67 | 664
9 Jul 2013 #1
Rihanna was in Poland recently as part of her recent tour. Deciding to have a "beach day" she headed to the beach at Sopot with her entourage and was shocked and disgusted that she couldn't get any peace or privacy there. The pop diva tweeted that her planned beach day was an "epic fail" and that she felt as if she was "caged in like a f*cking animal".

I guess the pop diva is living upto her name !
ilovepoland.co.uk/rihanna-endears-herself-to-her-polish-fanbase/
Ryz - | 43
9 Jul 2013 #2
they love the celebrity status but they don't want to pay the price. this kind of self entitlement sickens me... It's a public place lady, deal with it.
smurf 39 | 1,981
9 Jul 2013 #3
That article is just a tad racist.
ShawnH 8 | 1,498
9 Jul 2013 #4
How so? The fact it mentions she is of a non-Caucasian origin?
smurf 39 | 1,981
9 Jul 2013 #5
Duh!

Why does it emphasize her ethnicity and that of her minders/bodyguard so much and so often.
Her race and that of the people in her entourage has nothing to do with the incident.
Could you imagine a decent newspaper detailing such irrelevant information?
Of course not.
The writer, "Marek", is clearly showing his racist traits.
ShawnH 8 | 1,498
9 Jul 2013 #6
Why does it emphasize her ethnicity and that of her minders/bodyguard so much and so often

From the linked news item:

2/ There are not many black girls in Poland so when one turns up on one of the busiest beaches in the country during the tourist season AND then brings her entourage with her AND that black girl happens to be one of the most famous women in the world then it suggests there's something of a disconnection between you and reality.

It uses the word "black" as an adjective. How much effect, and how truthful and how nonsensical would the following sentences have been: " There are not many girls in Poland". None. I am sure a white girl showing up at the beach would not have aroused much attention, even if she were famous (or infamous in Ri-ri's case). It doesn't even mention the race of her bodyguards / entourage, and they only get one mention.

Could you imagine a decent newspaper detailing such irrelevant information?Of course not.

I can't imagine too many newpapers considering this news at all. Woop-dee-doo, a "star" can't get a break from the throngs of fans / paparazzi.

Much ado about nothing.
poland_
9 Jul 2013 #7
Why does it emphasize her ethnicity and that of her minders/bodyguard so much and so often.
Her race and that of the people in her entourage has nothing to do with the incident.
Could you imagine a decent newspaper detailing such irrelevant information?
Of course not.The writer, "Marek", is clearly showing his racist traits.

I have to agree with Smurf on this one, firstly she is not black she is mulatto ( mixed race), Secondly I was in the Sopot Sheraton at the Wave restaurant on Sunday having brunch, the hotel erected barriers up outside stopping the crowds entering, people/fans just sat around in reception and the bar area with their kids waiting for Rihanna, they where not guests or clients of the hotel.The Polish fans behaved without respect, diva or not she still deserves "me time" on the beach. Mind you by all accounts she was pretty wasted on Saturday at the KOL gig.
smurf 39 | 1,981
9 Jul 2013 #8
It uses the word "black" as an adjective

Why is it needed?
It isn't
And why so many times?
Not needed.
Imagine that kind of language used in the UK Guardian/Telegraph/Independent etc etc.
It would very much be lambasted for using such language.

Her race has nothing to do with the story. Simple as that.

Much ado about nothing.

Racism is indeed the accepted norm here :(
But this post originates from the UK.
ShawnH 8 | 1,498
9 Jul 2013 #9
Could you imagine a decent newspaper detailing such irrelevant information?

Firstly, the blog referenced in the OP is not pretending to be a "credible newspaper" It is just some guy's blog.

mulatto

I find this term highly racist. I prefer the terms bi-racial. incidentally, her father is the bi-racial one in the family. I believe she could be termed "of mixed heritage" if we are going to get all PC.

The Polish fans behaved without respect

How so, she should have been ingnored completely? Name one normally crowded beach in any Edit: largely mono-ethnic country in the world where she wouldn't have been gawked at.

she still deserves "me time"

If it was that important she should have bought a helicopter and gone some place a little more secluded.

Why is it needed?

I am not in the author's head, but I can imagine that since it is likely that "Marek" may be from Poland, a largely mono-cultural country, writing for a blog about Poland, to put her visit to the beach and the reaction her presence drew into some sort of context.

And why so many times?

See-above, and I disagree that twice is so many times. Got kids? When they ask for something they don't get it after the eighth time, that would be so many times. Twice? not so much.

Her race has nothing to do with the story. Simple as that.

It is simply contextual.

Racism is indeed the accepted norm here :(

I think at best, it may be a cultural sensitivity issue, more so than race.

TBH this isn't even a story.
Harry
9 Jul 2013 #10
diva or not she still deserves "me time" on the beach.

TBH she probably would have been most put out if she had been completely ignored. One of only two enjoyable moments of the weekend I spent attached to Paul Oakenfold's tour in Poland was when we took him to Piekarnia club and he couldn't get into the VIP room for a while and so stood in the chill out bar pretending to enjoy the fact that nobody other than the promoter recognised him and lots of people kept pushing him out of the way to get at the bar.

the Wave restaurant on Sunday having brunch

How does it compare to the Warsaw brunches? Although I reckon that these days (or at least when they restart after the summer) the only one worth doing is the Westin, the Hilton has gone right off the boil and the Sheraton even further downhill, I understand that the Marriott has given up on brunch altogether.
jon357 63 | 14,254
9 Jul 2013 #11
diva or not she still deserves "me time" on the beach.

Part of earning all those millions is fame and celebrity among the masses.Another part is spending it on privacy which doesn't quite match her pitching up with her entourage on a downmarket public beach right among those very masses.

TBH she probably would have been most put out if she had been completely ignored

Very much so - such people thrive on any chance to get their photo published or to draw an adoring crowd. She'll be glad of it in 20 years time when she's doing a summer season at Butlin's Skegness.
Harry
9 Jul 2013 #12
She wouldn't get a work permit (especially now Butlin's recruit in Poland); she'd be lucky to get gigs on cruise boats.
Harry
9 Jul 2013 #14
And we hope you never do. Oh, sorry, I forgot, you have never been to Poland.
smurf 39 | 1,981
9 Jul 2013 #15
TBH this isn't even a story

I agree, I just don't like the wording of it. And if this aspiring blogger wishes to pursue a career in journalism then he's got to learn that reporting a person's race is rarely of significance to a story.
Nacjonalista 4 | 96
9 Jul 2013 #16
And we hope you never do. Oh, sorry, I forgot, you have never been to Poland.

Butt hurt much? Besides you're not even Polish so you have zero to say.

I agree, I just don't like the wording of it. And if this aspiring blogger wishes to pursue a career in journalism then he's got to learn that reporting a person's race is rarely of significance to a story.

Maybe according to the school of cultural marxism. Actual thinking people might want to know.
poland_
9 Jul 2013 #17
How does it compare to the Warsaw brunches?

The Warsaw brunch is far superior, no sushi or Asian food at Sopot Sheraton the price is lower at 135 per head.

If it was that important she should have bought a helicopter and gone some place a little more secluded

Part of earning all those millions is fame and celebrity among the masses.Another part is spending it on privacy which doesn't quite match her pitching up with her entourage on a downmarket public beach right among those very masses.

I am not quite sure you would class Sopot beach in front of the Sheraton/Grand as being down market, I would say after Jurata/Bryza it is probably one of the more exclusive beaches in PL.

Very much so - such people thrive on any chance to get their photo published or to draw an adoring crowd. She'll be glad of it in 20 years time when she's doing a summer season at Butlin's Skegness.

I believe the reason some of the Polish media may be letting off steam at her is because she turned up to the concert 1 hour late. The crowd booed her at the start of the event.

How so, she should have been ingnored completely? Name one normally crowded beach in any Edit: largely mono-ethnic country in the world where she wouldn't have been gawked at.

There is gawking and then there is being intrusive and disrespectful, I have noticed Poles do tend to get all weak at the knees when anyone famous comes to town, all common sense seems to go out of the window. I guess it all still quite new for them.
Harry
9 Jul 2013 #18
I am not quite sure you would class Sopot beach in front of the Sheraton/Grand as being down market, I would say after Jurata/Bryza it is probably one of the more exclusive beaches in PL.

Er, isn't it a public beach anymore?

I have noticed Poles do tend to get all weak at the knees when anyone famous comes to town, all common sense seems to go out of the window.

Or even somebody who people think is famous but hadn't heard of before they heard the person before. Remember all that fuss when somebody who apparently skateboarded turned up with a few fast cars at pl Pilsudski?

Actual thinking people

Have you ever met any of them?

Besides you're not even Polish so you have zero to say.

I'm Polish any time I fill in the paperwork: it's you who isn't and will never be.

Butt hurt much?

So you're racist, sexist and homophobic: what a delightful child you are.
ShawnH 8 | 1,498
9 Jul 2013 #19
There is gawking and then there is being intrusive and disrespectful, I have noticed Poles do tend to get all weak at the knees when anyone famous comes to town, all common sense seems to go out of the window. I guess it all still quite new for them.

True both for Poles and for the Genteel folks of Paris...
youtu.be/Zx1RpHIkFFo
Or of London....
youtu.be/4W5qchY3Aro
Or of New York
youtu.be/aEHQY5lMo3w
Nacjonalista 4 | 96
9 Jul 2013 #20
I'm Polish any time I fill in the paperwork: it's you who isn't and will never be.

Again somebody doesn't understand the difference between citizenship and ethnicity.
BBman - | 344
9 Jul 2013 #21
She, like all of the trash to come out of hollywood, loves attention. And as to the fact that she was labelled as "black" in that article is really nothing shocking. She was in a overwhelmingly white country where it is quite uncommon to see black people. People will notice, just like people on this side of the pond will notice when a group of blacks shows up in a white community.

firstly she is not black she is mulatto

This is true but i've yet to hear anyone being referred to as a mulatto here.
ShawnH 8 | 1,498
9 Jul 2013 #22
there is being intrusive and disrespectful,

Keeping a respectful distance...
Harry
9 Jul 2013 #23
Or of London....

You seen the title of that youtube clip?

the difference between citizenship and ethnicity.

Anybody who knows a little about Polish history knows that there are no ethnically Polish people: all people who claim to be 'ethnically Polish' will have various 'blood' in them (e.g. German, Jewish, Russian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, Belarussian, etc). And you're the one who needs a permit to live in Poland, not me.
ShawnH 8 | 1,498
9 Jul 2013 #24
You seen the title of that youtube clip?

Yes, RiRi assaulted by fans... in London
Waiting with bated breath to see the video of her being assaulted in Sopot Poland by weak kneed Poles.
poland_
9 Jul 2013 #25
Er, isn't it a public beach anymore?

Its a public beach, they have spent quite a bit of money sectioning it off with beach restaurants wooden walkways and glass partitions. The beach in Jurata is also public although the Bryza do try to restrict the area in front of the Hotel for guests.

Remember all that fuss when somebody who apparently skateboarded turned up with a few fast cars at pl Pilsudski?

Yes, closing of the streets.

Or when Jacko turned up when he was being hung out to dry stateside, spinning some yarn about opening up Jacko/Disney theme park in Warsaw..
Nacjonalista 4 | 96
9 Jul 2013 #26
Anybody who knows a little about Polish history knows that there are no ethnically Polish people: all people who claim to be 'ethnically Polish' will have various 'blood' in them (e.g. German, Jewish, Russian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, Belarussian, etc). And you're the one who needs a permit to live in Poland, not me.

Can you say slavic or at least White in general? You are probably neither. Jews are not European by the way.
Harry
9 Jul 2013 #27
Yes, RiRi assaulted by fans... in London

I'm half tempted to say something along the lines of 'Perhaps they were trying to make her feel at home', but domestic violence isn't something to be laughed at, not even when it's rather likely to have been in order to further one's career.

Its a public beach, they have spent quite a bit of money sectioning it off with beach restaurants wooden walkways and glass partitions. The beach in Jurata is also public although the Bryza do try to restrict the area in front of the Hotel for guests.

The last time I was on a Polish beach in summer was in Leba five or six years ago: I say last because I'll never go back, they're just too damn crowded.
ShawnH 8 | 1,498
9 Jul 2013 #28
This should be enough to offend just about everybody.


poland_
9 Jul 2013 #29
where it is quite uncommon to see black people

It is not uncommon to see black people in Poland, everyday of the week I see black people on the streets of Warsaw. It was uncommon to see African/Asian people on the streets of Poland, not anymore.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
9 Jul 2013 #30
It's just not uncommon at all, no matter how much some racists will try and portray Poland as being a sort of white-only "paradise".


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