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Is there a healthy expats scene in Poland? (drinks, food, golf, etc.)


delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
26 Oct 2012 #121
people want to live in a safe environment and gated communities provide this

Except they aren't safe - there was a very interesting example in Poznan where a security guard was setting cars on fire. Given the muppets that tend to "guard" such areas - they really aren't much use at all.

lots of these gated communities are on the outskirts of the main city ..... in the suburbs and not in centre of the city.

Which is even more ridiculous. These places are totally soulless and impersonal - but then again, one could argue that it's what they're used to.

Personally I can't see much wrong with gated communities

They simply aren't organic - they're artificial and dreadful places to live. Then there's the issue of false security - I'm pretty certain 2000zl in a brown envelope would get you as much access as you want to your average osiedle.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
26 Oct 2012 #122
I haven't read this thread,
I'm an immigrant living in Poland, not that I'll be here for the rest of my days but I won't be returning to my birthplace.

A lot of the temporary guests more so than the long term ones like to complain too much for my liking.
I dislike such negativity, I can handle it on the internet only because I believe most of you on here are not really human but a crude form of artificial intelligence.

I find that many people use the term expat for someone who has moved from an economically wealthier country to one that is poorer. and immigrant for the vise verse ,feck'em is all I can say on that one.

Usually the types that don't speak the local language, who have an opinion on everything in their host country, except they are obviously alienated from current affairs and close themselves off in a wee bubble. I personally think that way of life sucks, hard.

But in saying that, I've met some sound foreigners here but there are too many cool local people to ignore.

P.S. If you try the idea will be reciprocated.
cms 9 | 1,271
27 Oct 2012 #123
I personally think that way of life sucks, hard.

But its not black and white I came here as an expat and probably I'm now an immigrant - I know many people in the same position, not just Brits and americans but French, Italians, Germans and loads of Dutch etc.

Certainly I have no medium term plans to leave but I still often frequent "expat" places especially in Warsaw, mainly because the service is better.

I think you will find that many expats do speak Polish well and compared to immigrants I think you will get to know as much about Poland by running or growing a business there with your Polish colleagues than you will by spending your mornings teaching english to students and your evenings in badly ventilated pubs.
poland_
27 Oct 2012 #124
Buying in this development would be a good investment, as resales and rentals are quite good from what I've heard.

Wht happens after phase V when they ae no longer supporting the price?

Start off by taking the name " Osiedle Konstancja' it is not even Konstancin

Oakland Park but prices were ridiculous for location of the development,

They slashed the prices at Oakland and offered a fire sale those who bought in 2008/9 could have got a very good deal.

I have always considered ' Osiedle Konstancja' Warsaws ponzi scheme when it is left to the free market those who bought in PHase 3/4/5 will have trouble reselling. There are far too many ' osiedle's' around that have discounted prices. Across the road from 'Osiedle Konstancja' on the hill towards the forest there are large areas of land which was sold at USD 30-35 m2 which has been rezoned and is ready to be built upon.
pip 10 | 1,661
27 Oct 2012 #125
I am an expat. --when I get citizenship I will be an immigrant- but that is questionable too because we will probably return to Canada at some point.

I speak Polish- poor grammar but I speak.
I have my own business.
I live in a gated community. We are the only mixed family- all others are Polish. Polish people want gated communities, it gives them a sense of security. We have a security guard during the day. Most people here have the rolety and security monitoring. We have neither.

We are not the type to worry about getting broken in to. We don't have the Polish paranoia -I actually feel safer here than I do in Canada.
uk expat 1 | 11
27 Oct 2012 #126
I live in a gated community.

It wouldn't bother me either. I live in a gated community now, only the guards here carry pump action shotguns :-)
poland_
27 Oct 2012 #127
Certainly I have no medium term plans to leave but I still often frequent "expat" places especially in Warsaw, mainly because the service is better.

The expat sceme is a bubble in Warsaw, I believe Nial and Graham are good guys and they do their best, still why would you want to spend your time in the 1% when there is big world out there. As for service some of the best service in Warsaw is in Polish establishments, if you speak Polish and they recognize you in any establishment or business they will not feck with you, the locals will respect you because Poles know how difficult it is to acquire the Polish language.
jon357 63 | 14,255
27 Oct 2012 #128
Agreed. By spending too much time in those expat places he would miss so much. Not sure about the service thing though - they give bad service to Poles too. A lot of it is because many waiters here aren't actually waiters, just students, usually from out of town. At a restaurant recently I asked one whether the chips were real or frozen. She replied "Frozen of course. What other kind are there?".

Service though is slowly getting better.
sobieski 107 | 2,128
27 Oct 2012 #129
The expat sceme is a bubble in Warsaw,

I avoid then whole expat scene. Never went to the WTF. Never will go there. Sooooo expat.
Why should I love to meet a Belgian...just because he/she is Belgian? I have no need as such. I meet with people because they are... people.

Same goes for, why should I meet up with a EU foreigner...because he is just that...a foreigner?

Here i Bielany there is a good pizzeria, serving good pasta and pizza. It is a local place. Never will win a Michelin star. Sure it is not expat grade.

It will never make it to IYP. But we go there with the neighbours. A pizza and a beer. Much more is not necessary
uk expat 1 | 11
27 Oct 2012 #130
Each to their own, I love pizza and beer too, but I also like art, the theatre and music. It's tough being an expat.
croggers 7 | 109
27 Oct 2012 #131
"Is there an expat scene" not "why the hell would you want to go to an expat scene"
uk expat 1 | 11
27 Oct 2012 #132
why would I go to a U2 concert? I like them!
pip 10 | 1,661
27 Oct 2012 #133
like I posted a few pages ago- some people like living or knowing others that are in the same situation as they are. Makes people feel less foreign. And there is nothing wrong with that. I don't do a lot of expat stuff, but the ladies come to my shop and I am cool with that. I don't go to a restaurant because it is an "expat restaurant" --we go to reputable places that serve good food.
poland_
27 Oct 2012 #134
but I also like art, the theatre and music

There is a good art scene in Warsaw, as for Theatre and Opera it is easy access and a snip of the price of most european cities, if you want to be a culture vulture Poland has it all in an affordable way.

Theatre

teatrwielki.pl/en.html?no_cache=1

Music

songkick.com/metro_areas/31787-poland-warsaw?page=1
natasia 3 | 368
27 Oct 2012 #135
good grief, we have already established that he is a married man with a family.

just warning him.
poland_
27 Oct 2012 #136
o meet a Belgian

sobieski, there is a ' Belgium frites' take away place at the top end of ul Polna, they have the best frites in Warsaw and the sauces are excellent - highly recommended.

UK expat - have a look at this map of Warsaw below there are some good places to visit/know off the beaten track.

use-it-warsaw.pl/map_2012_en.pdf
jon357 63 | 14,255
27 Oct 2012 #137
There's a Belgian frites place on Ul. Francuska too. Not bad.
poland_
27 Oct 2012 #138
I have noticed a few of them ' Belgium fries' opening up I believe there is a company in Warsaw pushing a franchise as most of them seem to have the same promotional offer outside the unit. The only one I have tried after a recommendation, was the one on ul. Polna 22, called OKIENKO (open: Mon-Thu 9-22, Fri 9-24, Sat 10-24) its only a small place with a hatch serving Belgian-style fries with a choice of about 20 sauces. When I spoke to the couple who operate it, they informed me they are not part of the franchise operation and all the fries and sauces are fresh and not frozen. If you around that way I would suggest you try them out, they are opposite the student resident halls so I guess that is there catchment market.

gastronauci.pl/pl/21662-okienko-z-frytkami-warszawa
facebook.com/pages/OKIENKO/236509463070369
fpięć.pl/startupy/2012/02/03/okienkonapolnej
uk expat 1 | 11
28 Oct 2012 #139
Warszawski: Fantastic links, thank you very much! Just my cup of tea :-)
poland_
29 Oct 2012 #140
Just my cup of tea :-)

There are plenty of ' .herbaciarnia ' tea rooms in Warsaw.

Here is one: herbaciarnia-ganders.pl
MoOli 9 | 484
29 Oct 2012 #141
warszawski
who comes to Poland to teach english:) and may I add my opinion....a functioning alcoholic and womaniser
poland_
29 Oct 2012 #142
I am not saying those types don't exist in Poland, probably more Krakow than Warsaw. The majority of Brits I know here, have all gone native now. Its a little bit of a generalisation from you though, some may say all the Indians in Poland are back door workers, who have bought there way into Poland or extended erasmus student who are now illegal sub existence dwellers, personally I have met some very decent Indians in Poland.
MoOli 9 | 484
29 Oct 2012 #143
[quote=warszawski] Its a little bit of a generalisation from you though, some may say all the Indians in Poland are back door workers, who have bought there way into Poland or extended erasmus student who are now illegal sub existence dwellers, personally I have met some very decent Indians in Poland.[/quote

That was my point:)


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