Krakow a safe and friendly city for foreigners? Read this!

1)The center of Cracow is beatiful ( starówka)

2)You should visit salt mine in Wieliczka, is quite near.( 45 from center by bus)

2)If you are interested in Jewish tradition an cultur, go on the Kazimierz ( is part of Cracow)
There`re some jewish tenements. If one is lucky may meet some cracovian jews , but there are only few of them ;(

3)Nowa Huta will be in future very popular coz it is only one typicall comunits city.

As far as shops are concerned there are some shoping centers, but if you want to go shopping go better to Paris, Milan or Warsaw.

Yeh bribes, laughing my head off. most of that money is imported form >Poles working abroad anyway, what you talking about numb nuts.


Take your millions back from our lands than well talk scum bag.


Jealousy, jealousy of mind numbed communist offspring, really, reallyz sad.

BS. Foreigners were and are welcome as long as they are behaving respectfully. Like in every civilized place on earth.

Were they really rude?
I'd say the visitors to the hospital were rude since they knew Polish and yet they chose to speak English in Poland.


You are suggesting that the likelihood is greater in Poland so the onus is on you to provide the stats.

Thanks, jeden. I was looking more for hidden gems, though, rather than mainstream options. I have been to all of the above before. Any places more off the beaten track?

Dariusz, it is rude in one sense but they do have a right to use English at the same time. It's all in the will. Najpjerw, trzeba zagadać, potem dogadać i, w koncu, pogadać :)

There are a lot of lovely places around Krakow that are not very touristic.

Like you could for instance also visit the national park in Ojcow, which is about 15km outside Krakow, and while you are there, visit Skala, a lovely little city nearby with an ancient castle that is open to the public for a very low entrance price (I believe it was 10zl).

The kind of things you want to do on a sunny sundayafternoon :)

Rude in ONE sense?


Skała or Pieskowa Skała?

From the story it doesn't appear anybody rejected their right to speak English, but the foreigners reject the nurses' right to speak Polish in their own country.

You Derek, can presumably use the internet.

And after being attacked in Poland, I'm not surprised they didn't want to use the language!

In Cracow rather not, This is small town.

but there are a lot of attractive places oot of Cracow, You should look tiny towns.

Kalwaria Zebrzydowska

Wadowice

Sometimes , I stop in the village, and see wonderfull manor house from XIX century. People still live there.

So you have to search

Thanks once again, dxx. I was thinking about Ojców actually. Am I gonna get beaten up there? ;) ;) Nah, Poles seem to have a healthy respect for me, I don't know why. It must be my face :)

Bzib, yeah, I believe that you should try and speak so that everyone understands. Not using Polish if you know it can easily be seen as rude. I wouldn't use English in the presence of my wife's parents, for example.

Well that is just being stupid, Dariusz. Such people are not interested in cooperation.

Thanks, jeden. Wadowice might be solemn and sober around this time given the half-decade anniversary of JPII's death. I'll give it a miss and let people mourn. I wouldn't want to be a pesky foreigner ;)

Dont know about anybody else but i reckon the so called Polish muggers were a bunch of puss1es, so they attacked two guys form behinds and in numbers! and the victims still managed to run back to their hostel.

I mean what kind of idiot mugging gang allows theirs loot to get away like that.

Ive always wondered why the kantors and banks here have so little security, this thread just proves that the Polish criminals are so p1ss poor stupid it doesnt matter either way as theyll screw it up anyway.

and thats a fact. pretty sad really, for the criminal that is.

Change the thread title, POLISH MUGGING = we cant even mug foreigners anymore.

Just Skala.
Its real close to Ojcow on the way to Olkusz.

Perfect!
I'll forward this to my friends that've been bugging me about taking them to see Poland. This thread should get them off my back.

That post actually made me properly laugh, The amount of truth in those few words is amazing.:)

WB has a point here too. The level of gratitude is lacking in parts and is due to deep-seated resentment towards Poland being formerly occupied. Part of the reason was that Churchill didn't give a stuff about Poles, he disliked their selfishness. He let them slide at Tehran and Yalta. I can understand the anger of Poles quite easily.

The fact that billions have been pumped back into the Polish economy is only the start for some.

Thats not really true though is it Seanus, Churchill was stuck between a hard place and a rock. He wanted freedom for the Poles form the outset.

Mirko
You are not Pole. Your nickname is not Polish. And only homosexual Polish could choose such a nickname and from your opinion I assume you are not gay. Next time use Mirek and we really generally DO NOT like and DO NOT trust polish police. I believe polish police rather beat any pole then foreigner (western tourist)I'm not going to explain why and I believe you have never been in Poland in your whole miserable life.

jeden
I believe you are not Pole as well there is some strange about you.
Wroclaw Boy
You NEED to go England and rest you became polish. Generally I agree with almost all of your statements but because you are bloody angol I have to say FO if you don't like Poland go back to your rotten ridden country.

have a nice day guys

wcale nie musisz, niemniej jednak mamy takie samo zdanie na temat polskiej "miłości" do policji ;)
PS:
a i co jest takiego we mnie dziwnego??;)

I'm curious about that selfishness part. Care to elaborate?


No, he's typical petty-minded British as$hole venting.

OK, so they punished the nurses by not speaking in Polish to them. Call it even steven.


The story is one sided and as WB said, full of holes.


The Brits complaining about someone else's selfishness? That's a good one.
So how's the view from up high on your pedestal?

Care to elaborate? OK, yes. I got that from Neil Aescherson's book 'The Struggles for Poland'. It is a very well-written book which also covers Yalta and Tehran. Anyway, this is about Kraków. WB, he was but his emotions also got in the way.

I'm glad that you liked the book but you are still no explaining how Poles were/are selfish. Why bring that to the discussion about tourists in Kraków?

jeden
use name of Derek (2x) polish version is Darek. Right you are polish. I think I know what happened ;) one more time sorry.

aint that the truth, im done with this place. I dont want to become Polish but im sucked in left, right and centre. if you cant beat them join em.

All good points there Ender. Respect is due....

All these posts built on hearsay and conjecture.

As for mysterious posters like Mirko talking complete rubbish, he is more likely southern.

There is a police station on the market square and it is impossible that the police sat idly by while tourists were being beaten on the market square.

Do bad things happen in cities? Yes.

Do we know all the facts about this incident? No.

A few of us live in and around Krakow, I personally think it is very safe but if you want a fight you could find one.

Nobody questioned why 2 guys attacked 4 yet .... perhaps we could talk ourselves into oblivion about some other details that we know nothing of and in all likelihood will never know...

So, find way out :) I don't understand what keeps you there? I just hope you enjoy your life in Poland and PF is steam safety valve.

I don't sit on a pedestal, Dariusz. I was talking about the Englishman, Churchill.

Bzib, I didn't say that, Churchill did. He let Poland slide and I feel that much of the Polish spirit is summed up through the resistance that came in its aftermath.

As for Kraków, I like it there. Some of the snobbery can get on your wick but it's easily ignored.

2 weeks and counting till I get to live in a civilised country :)

Brilliant a Pole living and working in England, enjoy my country. Please come back more often your opions are valued.

Thisa forum is well short on Poles living in my country. Theyve all forgotten what its all ABOUT. Out of sight out of mind, till they come back twice a year Christmas and Easter. Should be ashamed.....................