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jeden - | 226
5 Apr 2010 #91
She only knows the main landmarks. Any recommendations for nice little finds in Kraków as regards shops or sightseeing?

1)The center of Cracow is beatiful ( starówka)

2)You should visit salt mine in Wieliczka, is quite near.( 45 from center by bus)

2)If you are interested in Jewish tradition an cultur, go on the Kazimierz ( is part of Cracow)
There`re some jewish tenements. If one is lucky may meet some cracovian jews , but there are only few of them ;(

3)Nowa Huta will be in future very popular coz it is only one typicall comunits city.

As far as shops are concerned there are some shoping centers, but if you want to go shopping go better to Paris, Milan or Warsaw.
Wroclaw Boy
5 Apr 2010 #92
Because Polish Police is paid from OUR MONEY, of Polish citizens

Yeh bribes, laughing my head off. most of that money is imported form >Poles working abroad anyway, what you talking about numb nuts.

And everyone just had enough with foreigners in Poland

Take your millions back from our lands than well talk scum bag.

Foreigners, you should UNDERSTAND once for all, you ARE NEVER WELCOMED here!

Jealousy, jealousy of mind numbed communist offspring, really, reallyz sad.
Bzibzioh
5 Apr 2010 #93
Foreigners, you should UNDERSTAND once for all, you ARE NEVER WELCOMED here!

BS. Foreigners were and are welcome as long as they are behaving respectfully. Like in every civilized place on earth.
z_darius 14 | 3,960
5 Apr 2010 #94
At least the nurses aren't rude to the patients as the original poster mentioned

Were they really rude?
I'd say the visitors to the hospital were rude since they knew Polish and yet they chose to speak English in Poland.

And the likelihood of getting attacked in PL is far higher. Unless you know otherwise.

You are suggesting that the likelihood is greater in Poland so the onus is on you to provide the stats.
Seanus 15 | 19,669
5 Apr 2010 #95
Thanks, jeden. I was looking more for hidden gems, though, rather than mainstream options. I have been to all of the above before. Any places more off the beaten track?

Dariusz, it is rude in one sense but they do have a right to use English at the same time. It's all in the will. Najpjerw, trzeba zagadać, potem dogadać i, w koncu, pogadać :)
dxx 12 | 108
5 Apr 2010 #96
Any places more off the beaten track?

There are a lot of lovely places around Krakow that are not very touristic.

Like you could for instance also visit the national park in Ojcow, which is about 15km outside Krakow, and while you are there, visit Skala, a lovely little city nearby with an ancient castle that is open to the public for a very low entrance price (I believe it was 10zl).

The kind of things you want to do on a sunny sundayafternoon :)
Bzibzioh
5 Apr 2010 #97
Dariusz, it is rude in one sense but they do have a right to use English at the same time.

Rude in ONE sense?

visit Skala, a lovely little city nearby with an ancient castle

Skała or Pieskowa Skała?
z_darius 14 | 3,960
5 Apr 2010 #98
it is rude in one sense but they do have a right to use English at the same time.

From the story it doesn't appear anybody rejected their right to speak English, but the foreigners reject the nurses' right to speak Polish in their own country.
jonni 16 | 2,476
5 Apr 2010 #99
You are suggesting that the likelihood is greater in Poland so the onus is on you to provide the stats.

You Derek, can presumably use the internet.

And after being attacked in Poland, I'm not surprised they didn't want to use the language!
jeden - | 226
5 Apr 2010 #100
Any places more off the beaten track?

In Cracow rather not, This is small town.

but there are a lot of attractive places oot of Cracow, You should look tiny towns.

Kalwaria Zebrzydowska

Wadowice

Sometimes , I stop in the village, and see wonderfull manor house from XIX century. People still live there.

So you have to search
Seanus 15 | 19,669
5 Apr 2010 #101
Thanks once again, dxx. I was thinking about Ojców actually. Am I gonna get beaten up there? ;) ;) Nah, Poles seem to have a healthy respect for me, I don't know why. It must be my face :)

Bzib, yeah, I believe that you should try and speak so that everyone understands. Not using Polish if you know it can easily be seen as rude. I wouldn't use English in the presence of my wife's parents, for example.

Well that is just being stupid, Dariusz. Such people are not interested in cooperation.

Thanks, jeden. Wadowice might be solemn and sober around this time given the half-decade anniversary of JPII's death. I'll give it a miss and let people mourn. I wouldn't want to be a pesky foreigner ;)
Wroclaw Boy
5 Apr 2010 #102
Dont know about anybody else but i reckon the so called Polish muggers were a bunch of puss1es, so they attacked two guys form behinds and in numbers! and the victims still managed to run back to their hostel.

I mean what kind of idiot mugging gang allows theirs loot to get away like that.

Ive always wondered why the kantors and banks here have so little security, this thread just proves that the Polish criminals are so p1ss poor stupid it doesnt matter either way as theyll screw it up anyway.

and thats a fact. pretty sad really, for the criminal that is.

Change the thread title, POLISH MUGGING = we cant even mug foreigners anymore.
dxx 12 | 108
5 Apr 2010 #103
Skała or Pieskowa Skała?

Just Skala.
Its real close to Ojcow on the way to Olkusz.
f stop 24 | 2,496
5 Apr 2010 #104
if you provoque it (could even be by talking in English), you will have to live with the consequences too.

Perfect!
I'll forward this to my friends that've been bugging me about taking them to see Poland. This thread should get them off my back.
dnz 17 | 710
5 Apr 2010 #105
Nah that'll be the billion's ploughed into your shite state economy you ungratefull potatoe harvesting cowboy.

Scum bag.

That post actually made me properly laugh, The amount of truth in those few words is amazing.:)
Seanus 15 | 19,669
5 Apr 2010 #106
WB has a point here too. The level of gratitude is lacking in parts and is due to deep-seated resentment towards Poland being formerly occupied. Part of the reason was that Churchill didn't give a stuff about Poles, he disliked their selfishness. He let them slide at Tehran and Yalta. I can understand the anger of Poles quite easily.

The fact that billions have been pumped back into the Polish economy is only the start for some.
Wroclaw Boy
5 Apr 2010 #107
Part of the reason was that Churchill didn't give a stuff about Poles, he disliked their selfishness.

Thats not really true though is it Seanus, Churchill was stuck between a hard place and a rock. He wanted freedom for the Poles form the outset.
ender 5 | 394
5 Apr 2010 #108
Mirko
You are not Pole. Your nickname is not Polish. And only homosexual Polish could choose such a nickname and from your opinion I assume you are not gay. Next time use Mirek and we really generally DO NOT like and DO NOT trust polish police. I believe polish police rather beat any pole then foreigner (western tourist)I'm not going to explain why and I believe you have never been in Poland in your whole miserable life.

jeden
I believe you are not Pole as well there is some strange about you.
Wroclaw Boy
You NEED to go England and rest you became polish. Generally I agree with almost all of your statements but because you are bloody angol I have to say FO if you don't like Poland go back to your rotten ridden country.

have a nice day guys
jeden - | 226
5 Apr 2010 #109
jeden
I believe you are not Pole as well there is some strange about you.

wcale nie musisz, niemniej jednak mamy takie samo zdanie na temat polskiej "miłości" do policji ;)
PS:
a i co jest takiego we mnie dziwnego??;)
Bzibzioh
5 Apr 2010 #110
Part of the reason was that Churchill didn't give a stuff about Poles, he disliked their selfishness.

I'm curious about that selfishness part. Care to elaborate?

WB has a point here too.

No, he's typical petty-minded British as$hole venting.
z_darius 14 | 3,960
5 Apr 2010 #111
And after being attacked in Poland, I'm not surprised they didn't want to use the language!

OK, so they punished the nurses by not speaking in Polish to them. Call it even steven.

Wroclaw Boy, you still don't believe my story?

The story is one sided and as WB said, full of holes.

Churchill didn't give a stuff about Poles, he disliked their selfishness.

The Brits complaining about someone else's selfishness? That's a good one.
So how's the view from up high on your pedestal?
Seanus 15 | 19,669
5 Apr 2010 #112
Care to elaborate? OK, yes. I got that from Neil Aescherson's book 'The Struggles for Poland'. It is a very well-written book which also covers Yalta and Tehran. Anyway, this is about Kraków. WB, he was but his emotions also got in the way.
Bzibzioh
5 Apr 2010 #113
It is a very well-written book which also covers Yalta and Tehran.

I'm glad that you liked the book but you are still no explaining how Poles were/are selfish. Why bring that to the discussion about tourists in Kraków?
ender 5 | 394
5 Apr 2010 #114
jeden
use name of Derek (2x) polish version is Darek. Right you are polish. I think I know what happened ;) one more time sorry.
Wroclaw Boy
5 Apr 2010 #115
Wroclaw Boy
You NEED to go England and rest you became polish.

aint that the truth, im done with this place. I dont want to become Polish but im sucked in left, right and centre. if you cant beat them join em.

All good points there Ender. Respect is due....
SeanBM 35 | 5,792
5 Apr 2010 #116
All these posts built on hearsay and conjecture.

As for mysterious posters like Mirko talking complete rubbish, he is more likely southern.

There is a police station on the market square and it is impossible that the police sat idly by while tourists were being beaten on the market square.

Do bad things happen in cities? Yes.

Do we know all the facts about this incident? No.

A few of us live in and around Krakow, I personally think it is very safe but if you want a fight you could find one.

Nobody questioned why 2 guys attacked 4 yet .... perhaps we could talk ourselves into oblivion about some other details that we know nothing of and in all likelihood will never know...
ender 5 | 394
5 Apr 2010 #117
So, find way out :) I don't understand what keeps you there? I just hope you enjoy your life in Poland and PF is steam safety valve.
Seanus 15 | 19,669
5 Apr 2010 #118
I don't sit on a pedestal, Dariusz. I was talking about the Englishman, Churchill.

Bzib, I didn't say that, Churchill did. He let Poland slide and I feel that much of the Polish spirit is summed up through the resistance that came in its aftermath.

As for Kraków, I like it there. Some of the snobbery can get on your wick but it's easily ignored.
dnz 17 | 710
5 Apr 2010 #119
aint that the truth, im done with this place.

2 weeks and counting till I get to live in a civilised country :)
Wroclaw Boy
5 Apr 2010 #120
So, find way out :) I don't understand what keeps you there? I just hope you enjoy your life in Poland and PF is steam safety valve.

Brilliant a Pole living and working in England, enjoy my country. Please come back more often your opions are valued.

Thisa forum is well short on Poles living in my country. Theyve all forgotten what its all ABOUT. Out of sight out of mind, till they come back twice a year Christmas and Easter. Should be ashamed.....................


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