I respectfully disagree - if i run around Wroclaw and say things like "byc holender, zyc Wroclaw", one could argue that I can communicate. But that's not really the point, is it? I am not asking for perfection (everybody makes some mistakes), but a little proficiency kind of adds to people's understanding of what one is trying to convey.
Of course I've had languages in school. Everybody has to start somewhere. But still, if I look at the level of teaching here and I compare it to the countries where I went to school (and by the way, my wife is an English teacher here in Wroclaw - so I think I actually CAN compare), then the level is less than adequate (and then I am being polite). As far as I know, students here don't have to read foreign literature for example (here are three pages of English literature, you have to read 7 in the Netherlands, per language - here is French and here is German) or get lessons in literary history.
Dutch/German/English belong to one language family. You never had to bust your ass like most students do to learn a language with mediocre teachers, limited real life contact and lessons at most only a few hours a week. What a child.
Obviously you don't have a clue what you are talking about. If you move from England to France and your father just puts you in the local school, believe me you HAVE to bust your ass. And in case you don't know, French belongs to a different family, but obviously you do know cause you conveniently forgot to mention edit
Yes, I swear, cause I refuse to be called Hitler when I have an opinion that is contrary to yours. It says a lot about your intellectual qualities when you can't have it when people disagree with you.No name calling