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SUROWY DOM IN POLAND - UNFINISHED HOMES FOR SALE - COST TO COMPLETE THE BUILD?


CashewNut
5 Aug 2015 #1
I see tons of Dom "Surowy" or "Deweloperski" stan - basically brick walls and a roof popped on

There is one I want to buy which is very big - about 400m2 - and I'm wondering what the general cost to finish this will be? 200,000 zlotych enough? The windows alone I am thinking will cost 100,000 zlotych because it has so many!

Anybody here with experience buying and completing an unfinished home?

Do I need any building permits to complete? Any inspections along the road now?

Also - home has been empty for 10+ years - do I need any formal inspection to re-start the project?
Roger5 1 | 1,458
5 Aug 2015 #2
Anybody here with experience buying and completing an unfinished home?

No, but we built one, so I know that from the 'raw' state there's still an awful lot to do.
400 m is huge. I'd say you'd need at least 350k to finish it to a reasonable standard. (I don't envy you your fuel bills in a five month Polish heating season)

Do I need any building permits to complete? Any inspections along the road now?

The builder will already have obtained permission, but you still need a building manager to inspect and sign off each step, e.g. utilities installations, stairs, fireplaces. He/she will usually charge you each time a step is completed.

home has been empty for 10+ years - do I need any formal inspection to re-start the project?

I don't know the answer to that, but if I were you, I'd get a building manager to do a thorough inspection before you buy.

Our little house (just over 100m) cost about 250K, most of which was spend after the walls and roof were up.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,732
5 Aug 2015 #3
Out of curiosity, how much does it cost you to heat your house?

I'm contemplating buying one, but my heating bills at the minute are ridiculously low due to living in a 1980's block full of 50somethings that live with the heating permanently on. I don't even need to touch the heating until it's below -15c because of them :)
Roger5 1 | 1,458
5 Aug 2015 #4
We have two chimneys: one for a fire to heat water and the radiators, and one for a fireplace in the living room. It's not actually necessary to use the latter, but we wanted it because it's beautiful. Anyway, a few days ago we had wood delivered for next winter. We bought 3m2 of pine and 1m2 of alder. Ideally, I'd buy birch but we bought what was available. The four metres cost 500 PLN. We use that wood in combination with coal, of which we burn 2.5 tonnes in a hard winter, say 1500PLN. That fuel also keeps us in hot water over the summer months.

Our house is quite small, and also very well insulated. We put 15cm polystyrene all round, and it really makes a difference.

Sorry, that should be m3.
mcm1 2 | 81
5 Aug 2015 #5
From my experience I would suggest anything from 500k-800k depending on your finishes. not including sanitary ware or kitchens.
Our place is about 475m2 of livable area and the cost was substantially more but we did choose quality fixtures.
As for the heating-we have a gas boiler and a solid fuel system so can use either or both together. As we dont actually live there permanently we just have the gas boiler running to keep the property at 19C- 24/7. Our predicted cost for gas is about what we thought, 15,000PLN per year.
cjj - | 281
6 Aug 2015 #6
Also - home has been empty for 10+ years - do I need any formal inspection to re-start the project?

I would guess that you would.
You might find that the building log book has expired - or that various permissions have expired.

I would be rather careful until the local gmina office was happy - in writing.
SEQ 1 | 6
30 Sep 2019 #7
Merged:

Budget estimate to fit out a 105 sqm new build apartment in Lodz



Hi,
My new build apartment in Lodz is well underway and expected to complete Q2 2020.
What budget should I use for getting the apartment from new built shell to a fully functional state - 2 bathrooms, kitchen, 3 beds, all fixtures, painting and finishing? Its a very nice property so i want to fit to a good standard.

Also, after I get keys from developer, how long do i need to wait (drying out time) before a crew can start on fitting?

Many thanks in advance 😀
pawian 161 | 9,971
30 Sep 2019 #8
Its a very nice property so i want to fit to a good standard.

A good standard is ambiguous. Practically everything what you can buy in shops today is of good standard. The main difference is between typical and fancy. Depending on what you expect, the total cost ranges from 20.000 to 50.000 PLN.
pawian 161 | 9,971
30 Sep 2019 #9
The main difference is between typical and fancy.

E.g, Mito Grey toilet goes for 200 PLN. I have had similar two ones since 2014 in the summer house and they are basic but OK. 10 year warranty.

But, if you want, you can get a fancy black one for 875. Of course, fancier ones are more expensive, even 5000.

So, what do you want?





SEQ 1 | 6
2 Oct 2019 #10
@pawian
Hi, I am just looking for a ballpark estimate to fit out a shell property after getting keys from developer e.g. from 1,500 zl per m2 to 2,500 zl per m2
Dougpol1 32 | 3,152
2 Oct 2019 #11
a ballpark estimate to fit out a shell property

Pawian has answered your question, as I would. Fitting out, as you put it, is all in the eye of the beholder. I have been in communist block flats which were fitted out with the latest hi-tec, and gold taps, all in the worst possible taste, and others which were homely and finished for 20 percent of that price.

It all depends what you want. If you mean,what is the cheapest fitting for drylining and flooring...then we can talk.
pawian 161 | 9,971
2 Oct 2019 #12
am just looking for ballpark estimate to fit out shell propertyafter getting keys from developer from 1,500 zl per m2 to 2,500 zl per m2

I am sorry but I am not sure what those technical terms you use mean. I don`t have time to translate, so I think it will be better to let others help you.
Dougpol1 32 | 3,152
2 Oct 2019 #13
those technical terms

Ballpark - he means average Joe prices. Shell property - completely empty, likely with no interior walling.
Am Eng corporate speak nonsense:((
pawian 161 | 9,971
2 Oct 2019 #14
Oh, thanks. I will use that shell in another thread later on. :)

But, the poster asked a strange question

from 1,500 zl per m2 to 2,500 zl per m2

Does he/ she expect us to tell him/her how much the furnishing per m2 will cost? If so, it is funny to me coz I have no idea how one can calculate it before getting down to work. Do interior design offices do such calculations? It seems possible but only after the work has been done, doesn`t it?
Dougpol1 32 | 3,152
2 Oct 2019 #15
how much the furnishing per m2 will cost?

I presume he is referring to the interior drylining ( dividing walls) boarding (interior walls), flooring, plus surface painting, and not technical installation (electricals /plumbing/ etc etc).
pawian 161 | 9,971
3 Oct 2019 #16
I presume he is referring to the interior drylining

Oh, I see. Again, thanks for that.
But it is still strange he/she comes to the forum and asks such questions. Even if a member tells us about his/her experience with shell furnishing, each case is different coz it is highly individual matter.

Also, after I get keys from developer, how long do i need to wait (drying out time) before a crew can start on fitting?

I missed that one. A Polish online calculator for new floors says: about one week for each centimeter. But that info is surely available in English, too.


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