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Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom?


Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #601
What mobilization, by who?
RADO - | 12
17 Apr 2010 #602
Sasha:
Olechka, because we wanna hold in with Poles. :) Is it prohibited by international law?

Do not be so patronizing; it is quite sickening.

Alex -
for once, I have to agree with Olga. In this context, "Olechka" is very patronizing and it diminishes your credibility, not hers.

Будь умнее.
Sasha 2 | 1,083
17 Apr 2010 #603
and it diminishes your credibility, not hers.

Many wells, many buckets.
Будь здоров! :)
wildrover 98 | 4,451
17 Apr 2010 #604
after this accident there were silent mobilization(army) on the east polish border

Don,t wind her up any more..you will have her believe it....oh no...i think she does.....???
pgtx 29 | 3,159
17 Apr 2010 #605
the mystery's not solved yet...?
f stop 25 | 2,513
17 Apr 2010 #606
It is! Olga convinced us all. It was Putin.
pgtx 29 | 3,159
17 Apr 2010 #607
It was Putin.

in person...? he didn't send his people this time...?
f stop 25 | 2,513
17 Apr 2010 #608
of course it was his secret service. Olga's not that crazy. Yet.
Olga 1 | 330
17 Apr 2010 #609
January 22, 2010 (Less than 3 months ago)--"Patriot missile deployment against Russia, says Lavrov...Poland is giving the impression that it is strengthening its defences directly against Russia, says Moscow's foreign minister Sergei Lavrov. The patriot missile battery should be in situ by 2011."
czar 1 | 143
17 Apr 2010 #610
medvedev will slip without puppet master putin around

same for too cool for school obama been lyin

whoever is in the know will show it

It was Putin.

Olga 1 | 330
17 Apr 2010 #611
whoever is in the know will show it

Did you hear how the widows of the deceased on board have had access to their bank accounts blocked? What do you make of that? I can't see a wealthy politician with 7 kids wouldn't have had a joint account with his wife, especially in Poland, where women run the roost.
czar 1 | 143
17 Apr 2010 #612
lets keep it 50/50 woman/man hah, still it doesnt strike me as too abnormal, still, 9/11 widows turned into a money scam.
z_darius 14 | 3,968
17 Apr 2010 #613
Did you hear how the widows of the deceased on board have had access to their bank accounts blocked? What do you make of that?

Putin blocked those accounts of course. He used a гнат to threaten the bankers :)
Olga 1 | 330
17 Apr 2010 #614
"Давай гната курва!"

Translation: "Let's get out of here, fu*k!"
f stop 25 | 2,513
17 Apr 2010 #615
Translation: "Let's get out of here, fu*k!"

There you go, girl! Let it all hang out!
Olga 1 | 330
17 Apr 2010 #616
That was especially for you ;-)
RonWest 3 | 120
17 Apr 2010 #617
Kaczynski could be even alive

Yeah, he's having cocktails with Elvis and they're both having a laugh.
Olga 1 | 330
17 Apr 2010 #618
"Давай гната курва!"

Translation: "Let's get out of here, fu*k!"

Time at 50 seconds on the dot. And then what do you hear few seconds later? Bang. Bang. :-P
Jed - | 165
17 Apr 2010 #619
"Давай гната курва!"
Translation: "Let's get out of here, fu*k!"

Progress? But it is still not sounds Russian.

Russian close analogue to your English translation is: Davai otsuda, suka! A word "kurva" you can rarely meet in modern Russian, just in books.

If you prefer something sounding like "gnata" it is "gnat' " or "prognat' " (soft "t' "). - Means "put someone go outhere" or "drive away".

In the example as above it could be: "Davai gnat' ih otsuda" - "let's drive them away from here.

Just a lesson of Russian.
jeden - | 226
17 Apr 2010 #620
What mobilization, by who?

Polish army on east border was mobilized.( postawione w stan gotowości)

Don,t wind her up any more..you will have her believe it....oh no...i think she does.....???

this true info, sorry. I know it from reliable source.
Olga 1 | 330
17 Apr 2010 #621
"Davai gnat' ih otsuda"

This is it, then, I'm almost certain. Have a listen right at 50 seconds. They start talking at about 38 seconds... I wonder if you can make it out. The time at 50 seconds is much clearer, which is where that phrase is shouted. And then the shots fire just a few seconds later.
Velund 1 | 399
17 Apr 2010 #622
By the way, "gnat'" mean not very polite way to drive someone from some place. It may mean even something forceful or somewhat threatening. So. I can imagine few shots to air just to get full attention of crowd that is so shocked or nervous, so cannot understand words of law enforcement official at once. But I never seen that by myself during my life, just heard about one such case. Police officer that shot at least once from their weapon during their duty shift is already somewhat in trouble. Investigation is mandatory, and they will need to prove that their use of weapon was legal and necessary. So, it is highly unlikely, but still possible.

I simply do not have speakers on this computer to hear soundtrack of this flick. Maybe someone can separate soundtrack from flick and amplify it by some software that used to recover old recordings?
Jed - | 165
17 Apr 2010 #623
I wonder if you can make it out.

I wonder too - because in this meaning it is in line with sounds behind the scene I heard on this video: officials trying to put public away from the site and showing direction to car drivers (emergency, I suppose - sounds of fire trucks sirena support it).

I can't comment about shots - from my experience it's unlikely that someone firing shots in this situation - even to drive public away. But who knows? It is also easy to check with numerous witnesses.
Olga 1 | 330
17 Apr 2010 #624
"gnat'" mean not very polite way to drive someone from some place. It may mean even something forceful or somewhat threatening.

The exact word for that in Polish is "wygnać" which means to banish with force. Yes, it's the exact same meaning in Polish. Okay... I still have misgivings about that whole video. It chills me to the bone.
Velund 1 | 399
17 Apr 2010 #625
The exact word for that in Polish is "wygnać" which means to banish with force.

The words " wygnat' " or " prognat' " means the same in Russian and used almost equally as often as verb " gnat' ".
Olga 1 | 330
17 Apr 2010 #626
Well, then...I think we might have something here.

sounds of fire trucks sirena support it

That sounds like a train blasting its horn.... There have been reports that no fire trucks or ambulances were called out so soon. This video is reported to take place within minutes of the impact. If you look at the aerial shot of the crash site, you can see residences just to the right--it would only take them seconds to run there. Well, if you get "gnat" out of that like I do, and the identical word in Polish is wygnać--shots were for sure fired to scare them away. Wygnać / gnat have threatening meanings in both languages.

I simply do not have speakers on this computer to hear soundtrack of this flick. Maybe someone can separate soundtrack from flick and amplify it by some software that used to recover old recordings?

Use headphones, if you have any somewhere. I'm not high-tech enough to pull that off.
But I have headphones on that cover me entire ear. There's a lot more that's said by the other guy with the scared Russian, the older guy, at 1:19 minutes but I have no idea what it is. Can one of you translate? Also, what is the exact translation of what the guy is cursing? I get the gist of it, but just curious.
southern 75 | 7,096
17 Apr 2010 #627
But it is still not sounds Russian.

You don't get it.The Russians were trained to talk as polish in order to appear that Poles assasinated the crew on the ground.
Olga 1 | 330
17 Apr 2010 #628
The Russians were instructed to talk as polish

That is not even remotely Polish, I can assure. I have headphones on now as we speak.
southern 75 | 7,096
17 Apr 2010 #629
That is not even remotely Polish, I can assure.

It is not because they were not trained so well and used russian words instead.
Jed - | 165
17 Apr 2010 #630
That sounds like a train blasting its horn....

No, it's Russian standard fire truck sirena.

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