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Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom?


Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #511
What was the voice near the camera saying?

Cursing in panic, like "F**k me"
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #512
You think I don't know what you are, eh?

I'm sure you don't - but in your imagination I must be a devil. :)
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #513
in your imagination I must be a devil. :)

Something else actually, but quite similar ;P
Karamba - | 27
16 Apr 2010 #514
I'm not saying I believe everything Henry Makow says here, but it is very interesting.

I wonder what other people think about this?

In Internet age we surely have more data to think about than it was in 1940. Watching how easily conspiracy theories about 'Katyn-2' are disproved now I actually start wondering how much 'Katyn-1' story is reliable?
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #515
gnata - in what language it means "me the gun"? Not in Russian. Polish? Alien?

"Davaj gnata" most certainly does mean "give me the gun." "Gnata" is common slang term for gun. If you ever left your prehistoric cave, you would know that. What kind of Rus are you? Convenient one?
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #516
I actually start wondering how much 'Katyn-1' story is reliable?

Let's don't touch 'Katyn-1' . It was not an accident for sure...
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #517
Yeah, by going there you only prove your cretinism.
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #518
your cretinism

Yours is already proved...
Karamba - | 27
16 Apr 2010 #519
I do not deny Katyn-1 but assume now that some of its aspects might be exaggerated by some Poles.
Harry
16 Apr 2010 #520
As in the Pentagon attack, where there was no wreckage, there were no bodies to be found. Here is the YouTube. .... only 14 bodies could be identified in Moscow with the rest being too badly burned." .... they could recognize only 14 bodies, the rest was shattered into pieces or burnt and needed DNA testing.

Would be good if the moron could get his lies straight....
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #521
Yours is already proved...

Why are you even here, mendo? Read "Polish Forum."
wildrover 98 | 4,451
16 Apr 2010 #522
You should check out some other forums...many posters have similar theories.l

Nobody said you were the only looney...
StepanBandera - | 4
16 Apr 2010 #523
There is an old saying....amongst many Slavic peoples.

An answer to the question of how do you trust a russian?

Put your trust in your sword and the sword in the russian.

That is meant to only point out that there is no reason to trust the Soviet (Russian) state. They have never believed in individual rights or freedoms.

When it comes to the Russians they have earned cynicism.
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #524
Nobody said you were the only looney...

Oh, my! The crusading p-patrol is out in full force! What a surprise. Why don't you get a real job?
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #526
how do you trust a russian?

Put your trust in your sword and the sword in the russian.

There is an old saying....amongst many Slavic peoples.

How poetically true it is!! And who knows better than Poles and Ukrainians...
Karamba - | 27
16 Apr 2010 #527
An answer to the question of how do you trust a russian?

Well, there was (and still is) so much mistrust between basically all neighbours in Europe and outside in history. Could anyone name at least two European countries that had never fought and/or hated each other sometimes? I fail to see any such.
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #528
Why are you even here, mendo? Read "Polish Forum."

I found PF as a place where I could express my condolescence to Poles.

And I stay here because I think people should talk to people - otherwise some trolls like you will replace the truth with propaganda.
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #529
otherwise some trolls like you will replace the truth with propaganda.

Were you admiring your two-faced mug in the mirror as your wrote that?
StepanBandera - | 4
16 Apr 2010 #530
Belgium and the Netherlands? I don't think they have ever fought each other...of course I could be wrong there too.

Of course Switzerland hasn't been involved in a war for a very long time, there are advantages to living on the top of a mountain range.

but sadly that may be the only examples.
jonni 16 | 2,485
16 Apr 2010 #531
Were you admiring your two-faced mug in the mirror as your wrote that?

Have you ever posted anything that isn't rude and aggressive?
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #532
How poetically true it is!! And who knows better than Poles and Ukrainians...

O yes! Especially Bandera must be most loved by Poles.

Don't you want to make Stalin and Hitler your heroes? Why not? They prove your fobias and make your life exciting!
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
16 Apr 2010 #533
Belgium and the Netherlands? I don't think they have ever fought each other...of course I could be wrong there too.

Oh yes they have fought each other. In 1830, when Belgium seperated from the Netherlands. And they weren't as friendly to each other for over 100 years after; in 1919 it became nearly a war, because Belgium claimed that the German troops in WW1 had passed through NL (through the Southern part of Limburg), with Dutch consent when attacking Belgium. The Belgians conveniently forgot that 90 per cent of the Belgian refugees fled to NL. Also they claimed the Southern part of the province of Zeeland, which lies actually on Belgian soil, to secure the harbour of Antwerp. Only after pressure of the UK and the US, Belgium didn't invade the Southern parts of NL. In 1927 there was another crisis about a canal that the Belgians wanted to dig from Antwerp to the Rhine, which had to run over Dutch soil. NL opposed this very fiercely (leader of this opposition was the guy who later became the leader of the Dutch National Socialist Movement, the Dutch Nazis), but it was nipped in the bud and the canal has never been dug. Only in 1934, under the thread of Nazi Germany, the two small countries grew together to build a common defence against any future thread. Things went pretty fast after that, despite the interruption of WW2. In 1949 the BeNeLux was formed, blueprint for the EU.

>^..^<

M-G (and we still make jokes about the Belgians)
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #534
Judging by time zones, all the Ruskis are out to play.
StepanBandera - | 4
16 Apr 2010 #535
Polish Maj. General. S. Sosabowski - wasn't he another one to die in a plane crash?

were there others.....

how many Polish leaders have to die in plane crashes?
MediaWatch 10 | 945
16 Apr 2010 #536
Olga check out this NY Post article.

Poland's Tragedy Russia's Gain

The plane crash that killed Poland's president and 95 others is a tragedy for the Polish people and a loss of a good friend for the United States. For Poland's neighbor Russia, however, it's an opportunity to push for hegemony over Eastern Europe, as in the Iron Curtain days.

Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #537
Olga check out this NY Post article.

Thank you--that's exactly what I speculated in the "assasination" thread on page 15 with much evidence to back it up. PLEASE go there and check the links I posted--very eye-opening, indeed.
Velund 1 | 405
16 Apr 2010 #538
Judging by time zones, all the Ruskis are out to play.

No, there is lunchtime in KGB building. ;)
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #539
Olga check out this NY Post article.

Yes she is not alone. This black&white way of thinking is widely spread. Their twins are communists, radical islamists and any other fanatics - just with "+" or "-" marks. Keep them on their place - they are just war dogs.
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #540
I am almost inclined to think the Russians were lying in wait for the plane to come down with their guns ready for any possible survivors. As insurance.

Please go to page 15 of this thread and check out the video I posted where witness was being shot at just minutes after the crash.

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