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Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!?


delphiandomine 88 | 18,116
23 Oct 2010 #31
So, the both of you should stop worry and start to celebrate !

We are celebrating - Kaczynski's leadership of PiS makes sure that Catholic-Socialism shall never win power in Poland!
Ironside 51 | 12,441
23 Oct 2010 #32
We are celebrating

not you are whining as a frighten animal, you are winners right ? so relax .......or maybe all you are saying it just BS?
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
23 Oct 2010 #33
We are celebrating - Kaczynski's leadership of PiS makes sure that Catholic-Socialism shall never win power in Poland!

Three cheers to that!
poland_
23 Oct 2010 #34
If Polish people consider Kaczynski's rants as credible politics, then i am very disappointed embarrassed.

Polish politics have always been a game of shame and guilt. One party tries to shame the other,but the real shame is that they were elected by the people for people...
Eurola 4 | 1,902
23 Oct 2010 #35
He appears to be in simple denial about what's happened - he's lost power, he has no twin to manipulate and his party isn't strong enough to win.[/

I feel bad for him that he lost his brother, he manipulated the polish government and governed Poland in the background through Lech - a wishy-washy man. A huge blow to his ego now because nobody cares about him. He, himself and PiS are to weak to govern again. A total loss of power. It's gotta drive him coo coo as he appears to be.

Apropos, dropping all the guys in fancy ivory "dresses" and pink berets behind him when he speaks maybe would help.
convex 20 | 3,928
23 Oct 2010 #37
Well, his brother was actually semi sane. The problem is, when you're shooting for a socially conservative electorate, it doesn't help that you've never been identified with a significant other of the opposite sex. It would raise certain questions in peoples minds were it not for the rhetoric. Lech had a wife and children, he fit the mold perfectly. Jaroslaw however...
Eurola 4 | 1,902
23 Oct 2010 #38
So, are we are still in a world that a single man or a woman can not succeed because they do not have a significant other? I don't think you really meant that. If it was so, all 'mohair berets' would not support PiS and JK - but they do! What gives then? They seem to forgive JK for not having a wife and kids and living with a cat instead... They still follow him! What is the 'magic' of JK?
convex 20 | 3,928
23 Oct 2010 #39
Inane rhetoric. Same thing that provided the support for a certain Austrian with the same political message...and same family background
Eurola 4 | 1,902
23 Oct 2010 #40
..so it happened before, in Austria, hmmm. I don't know about it. I guess there is more than political agenda and marital status connection. Sometimes it does not matter even in a conservative environment. Good.
convex 20 | 3,928
23 Oct 2010 #41
I think that the major difference is that the Polish electorate doesn't consist of a populace which is 90% under the poverty line with a population which feels that it has been wronged by the international community not 15 years ago. I think if you had that situation, you'd probable see an even more extreme version of Kaczynski...possibly even with a funny mustache..
Eurola 4 | 1,902
23 Oct 2010 #42
you'd probable see an even more extreme version of Kaczynski...possibly even with a funny mustache..

Yeah, I hear of him as the new Hitler? Is that what you mean? Being conservative is fine, it is about preserving the past values, the legacy of your parents and maybe even grandparents.

I don't think JK goes that far but I'm no expert after watching BBC news or polish 'wiadomosci' over the Internet couple of times a month. However, after hearing and reading and what I know - he's gotta go. There is a limit.

a population which feels that it has been wronged by the international community not 15 years ago

well, that notion gotta go too. Enough time had passed.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
23 Oct 2010 #43
well, that notion gotta go too. Enough time had passed.

No, first he has to get hammered really badly at this year's council elections, then next year's parliamentary elections. And finally they should move against him, and reveal that he is gay.
convex 20 | 3,928
23 Oct 2010 #44
Yeah, I hear of him as the new Hitler? Is that what you mean? Being conservative is fine, it is about preserving the past values, the legacy of your parents and maybe even grandparents.

I don't think that is completely fair, but I do think he uses populist rhetoric to an extreme. Hopefully he'll kill it off himself and allow someone else to take over. Old Mr. Tusk has apparently deep sixed himself, so no worries there :)
Eurola 4 | 1,902
23 Oct 2010 #45
reveal that he is gay.

oh, no not that! poor p***y cat...
I don't think he is gay, he is just to short to find a woman dwarf and too weird. LK's wife was a few years older and well..not too attractive, but i understand she was a wonderful woman.

Anyway, we should not judge people by their looks alone but whatever comes out of their mouth and JK's mouth sucks.
convex 20 | 3,928
23 Oct 2010 #46
she was a wonderful woman.

She was a good woman, a very good woman. Regardless of if you agreed with her husbands politics (which, honestly, he never came across as the mouthpiece of sauron...), she was top notch.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
23 Oct 2010 #47
And unlike her husband, she could speak other foreign languages.
Trevek 25 | 1,699
23 Oct 2010 #48
What is the 'magic' of JK?

They either want to marry him or mother him.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,116
23 Oct 2010 #49
What is the 'magic' of JK?

Charisma and a fantastic ability to make things simple for his core electorate. His messages tend to be rather simple - Russia bad, Poland good, raise pensions, look after jobs, gays bad, Church good. Given the people that he appeals to (badly educated, nationalistic, a bit racist) - they lap it up.
POLENGGGs 2 | 150
23 Oct 2010 #50
At least they educated. And atleast they proud and can celebrate national holidays. Anyway, which census company you work for ?
I bet you the one that gets to... count vote forms.... yea yea, good on ya buddy.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,116
23 Oct 2010 #51
At least they educated.

But they're not. I wouldn't call someone who didn't finish high school "educated".

And atleast they proud

Proud? The same people are the ones falsely claiming "renta", the ones who claim unemployment benefits while working on the side, they dodge taxes - yeah, so proud!

and can celebrate national holidays.

I assure you that plenty of non-Kaczynski supporters celebrate national holidays too.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
23 Oct 2010 #52
Do Poles take Kaczynski seriously!?

47% voted for him during the last elections, do you really need to ask ?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,116
23 Oct 2010 #53
I was reviewing the results today, and some statistics were very interesting. For example, in Poznan -

Kaczynski lost overwhelmingly with prisoners.
Kaczynski won overwhelmingly with people in social help centres and hospitals.
Hubert - | 9
9 May 2011 #54
I live in Poland
Personaly i think Kaczynski is insane and neither Me or My friends does't take him serious :)
wildrover 98 | 4,436
9 May 2011 #55
Personaly i think Kaczynski is insane

He does a good impression does he not...?
Hubert - | 9
9 May 2011 #56
good impression

Kaczynski does a good impresion on obtused old laydies and other narrow-minded part of community... :) he has got quite low index of support among educated and inteligent society
Ironside 51 | 12,441
10 May 2011 #57
He does a good impression

nay He sucks at that.

he has got quite low index of support among educated and inteligent society

Ain't that intelligent then!
Hubert - | 9
10 May 2011 #58
Ain't that intelligent then!

Perfect statement :P
Seanus 15 | 19,672
10 May 2011 #59
Some do and some don't. I'd say that many 'healthy' Poles consider him to be deluded.
Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
10 May 2011 #60
Many do, to the extent the erection of a monument for Lech Kaczyński has been recently announced in Toruń.


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