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SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats


Nickidewbear 23 | 600
3 Jul 2012 #91
That's Anti Semitic and unfactual to say that Jews do, and you know it.
Hipis - | 227
3 Jul 2012 #92
Polonius3:
Define anti-Semitism!

Singling out people who are Jews for special attention.

What kind of special attention? If it's derogatory and hate speech then I'd agree with you but if it's a fact that corporations, newspapers, film studios are owned by people of Jewish heritage who may also be practicing Jews then how can stating facts be classed as anti Semitic? If I say Israel is controlled by the Jews is that anti Semitic or am I stating a fact?
Nickidewbear 23 | 600
3 Jul 2012 #93
It's the connotation that "controlled" has; and anyway, we don't own the corporations, film studios, etc.. Even if we do, we're the head and not the tail again.
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
3 Jul 2012 #94
If it's derogatory and hate speech then I'd agree with you but if it's a fact that corporations, newspapers, film studios are owned by people of Jewish heritage who may also be practicing Jews then how can stating facts be classed as anti Semitic? If I say Israel is controlled by the Jews is that anti Semitic or am I stating a fact?

It's all about the way the term is used.

"Israel is a Jewish-controlled state" - this is stating a fact, and should be considered neutral; although it could become anti-Semitic if used in a certain way, e.g., "Israel is a Jewish-controlled state, so why are you surprised that the Jew media always supports Zionist tyranny?".

The way these things are stated here on PF are generally stated in an offensive and anti-Semitic way. Rather than just stating that that certain media corporations are run by Jews, the fact that these organisations are "Jew-controlled" is used to ensure that Jews are used as scapegoats for any problem/issue you can think of. If someone disagrees with a news report, it's "the corrupt Jew media". If prices rise, it's because "the greedy Jew is filling his pockets again". If there's a stock market crash, it's because financial institutions are "Jew-controlled". And so on.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
3 Jul 2012 #95
In other words Jews are the new taboo. If you mention them you're singling them out and that is anti-Semitic. OK, If you want to believe that, fair enough!
Hipis - | 227
3 Jul 2012 #96
Connotation? Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

Even if we do, we're the head and not the tail again.

Forgive me if I'm wrong here but doesn't the "head" make the decisions and the tail does as the head decides? I have yet to see a tail that wagged the dog.
Nickidewbear 23 | 600
3 Jul 2012 #97
The way these things are stated here on PF are generally stated in an offensive and anti-Semitic way.

Exactly; and PF will do little to nothing about the Anti Semitism, yet I get into trouble for arguing--not fighting, merely stating arguments--from a Jewish Protestant perspective.

Forgive me if I'm wrong here but doesn't the "head" make the decisions and the tail does as the head decides? I have yet to see a tail that wagged the dog.

I'd explain it further, but I'd apparently be proselytizing if I did that.
Hipis - | 227
3 Jul 2012 #98
Exactly; and PF will do little to nothing about the Anti Semitism,

PF does nothing about anti Polonism either. We have English, Irish, Scottish, German, Russian, even Norwegian polonophobes on here; would it be anti Semitic to say we even have Jewish polonophobes on here? Anyway, I digress, so, given the fact that this is supposed to be a forum to discuss all things Poland and Polish related and polonophobic posts are never removed, why do you think you are so special that you think that alleged anti Semitic posts or posters are removed?
Barney 15 | 1,496
3 Jul 2012 #99
What kind of special attention?

Its obviously antisemitic to describe anything as Jewish owned because it implies that the owners are first and foremost Jewish rather than business people who happen to be Jewish

In other words Jews are the new taboo. If you mention them you're singling them out and that is anti-Semitic.

It wouldn't be taboo if you described all other businesses in the same way
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
3 Jul 2012 #100
Its obviously antisemitic to describe anything as Jewish owned because it implies that the owners are first and foremost Jewish rather than business people who happen to be Jewish

Like anyone sane cares about who owns what.
Hipis - | 227
3 Jul 2012 #101
I agree with delph, it makes no difference to me who owns what, I have better things to do with my time than research the ethnicity and religion of CEOs and major shareholders of large corporations. Now political allegiance, that's a different matter, I try and avoiding giving my money to those businesses who give huge financial donations to the British Conservative Party and the Republican party in the USA :D
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
3 Jul 2012 #102
It wouldn't be taboo if you described all other businesses in the same way

The irony is, if a UK newspaper dared to write anything similar about Polish-American culture, Polonius3 would be the first to complain about "racism".

I can see the "Daily Mail gloats as 'Polish-controlled' pierogies warehouse burns" tagline already... :)
Hipis - | 227
4 Jul 2012 #103
Its obviously antisemitic to describe anything as Jewish owned because it implies that the owners are first and foremost Jewish rather than business people who happen to be Jewish

Don't see it myself. Anti Semitism is discrimination, prejudice or hatred towards Jews according to modern day definition of the word Semitic so simply describing a business as Jewish owned is not a statement of hatred nor does it imply prejudice or hatred. The only time I would define such a statement of ownership as being of an anti Semitic nature would be if it was spoken by someone who was already known for being anti Semitic eg David Duke.
Barney 15 | 1,496
4 Jul 2012 #104
Why mention it if it is of no significance to you
Hipis - | 227
4 Jul 2012 #105
I never said it wasn't of any significance. I get fed up of people crying "anti Semitism" everytime someone says something that a Jewish person disagrees with. It is actually possible to disagree with and have an opposing opinion without being anti Semitic, racist or anti anything else for that matter.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
4 Jul 2012 #106
On the contrary, the onus is on the gloater. Same with Wyborcza's delight at the downturn in Church attendnace. And it's not the first time. In fact they are the only major Polish daily that doesn't just objectviely report but tends to highlight anythign that puts the Chruch in a bad light.

Of course, it's a free country so they are free to do so. But others are also free to point it out. Freedom works both ways. The PC Wyborcza crowd applauds freedom fo speech primarily for all thsoe who agree with them but would gladly muzzle their critics.

You don't see them invoking a sense of fariness and appealing for a digital platform slot for Radio Maryja or criticisng the broadcasting authority for awarding such slots to unproven unknowns of questionable financial status and programme potential.

Is using such terms as Amerindian-owned casinos (in the USA), Polish-owned chain of petrol stations in Germany, Arab-owned this or that racist?
What about saying that a 15-million-strong ethnic group (Jews) wield disproportionate economic and poltical power and influence throughout the world.
One would think that it would be anti-Semitic only to urge that wealth being taken away from them or them being otherwise penalised by extra-constitutional means.
genecps 7 | 131
4 Jul 2012 #107
Perhaps because they are Polonius3: Jewish-controlled leftist-liberal
and murdered Jesus.

Jews: Murdered Jesus... hmmm

What about all of his disciples? Did you ever see the picture of the last supper. All of them were his loyal followers except one trator. 1 out of 12! But since they are Jews we should blame them fo the sins of one. That's like blaming all Catholics for all of the world molestation's.

I lived in Vegas, city of SIN, modern day Babylon, and worked as a bouncer on strip-clubs and nightclubs. Most strippers told me openly stories about how their dad, step dad, mother boyfriend raped them and their brothers. After a while when you are able to see it in people's faces it becomes hard to hide it. I have met many men who told me they were "molested" (it was a softer way of them telling me they were raped), and most men who were raped end up raping someone as they get older. I noticed a lot of people who have been afflicted by this evil, tel to become "born again" Christians, and I ended up working for the prison system here, and noticed a high number of Child molester proclaim they are "Christians".

You might think Jews are these evil Jesus murderers, but I must tell you, I'm a Jew, and my family is white Europeans. Didn't kill Jesus:o)

But I keep thinking to myself... The new testament was written in Greece. Guess what... Greeks were known for rape, incest, and homosexuality. Is it posible that this faith blaimed Jews for killing Jesus to divert their EVIL from the things they do. Hell, we killed one man, but a lot of Christians kill souls of many.

something to think about before you go and spew evil word towards other religions, because somehow I get the feeling if I look into your eyes, I will see more evil then in the eyes of a lot of those "Jesus killers". Just call it bouncers intuition.

Actually, it's because Roman Catholicism is a cult and Poles are finally getting that--and we killed, but not murdered, Jesus. We did not have mens rea.

Jews did not kill Jesus. You can't blame all Jews because one person betrayed then and a few in the Hierarchy wanted him dead. It was probaly about 10 people total who wanted him silenced, out of 100,000 and their descendants got blamed. Not to understand this just point to something non religious people are always trying to say: that religious people are just not intelligent. It's like blaming all Poles for the murder of Jews. Less then 0.1% of Poles hunted or killed Jews!

I read that at the time of Jesus's crucifiction, there were about 80 other crucifiction of preachers. Jesus was Just the most famous one. You wanna blame someone pic any religious church/ temple hierarchy and blame them. They are always trying to shut up any competing religion.
Barney 15 | 1,496
4 Jul 2012 #108
Teflcat did not say Jews murdered Jesus read the thread again.

Nickidewbear's post is ignorant on so many levels.

Is using such terms as Amerindian-owned casinos (in the USA), Polish-owned chain of petrol stations in Germany, Arab-owned this or that racist?

It depends on the context, why you would mention such incidental facts but not others such as waste size or shoe size for example

To me it sounds just as ridiculous to say the "corpulent owners of the newspaper" as it does the "Jewish owners of the newspaper" there is no need to mention it here it’s not relevant.
genecps 7 | 131
4 Jul 2012 #109
Teflcat did not say Jews murdered Jesus read the thread again.

Look at thread #11
jon357 71 | 20,031
4 Jul 2012 #110
Better look up the word 'irony' in a dictionary.
genecps 7 | 131
4 Jul 2012 #111
genecps: Look at thread #11
Better look up the word 'irony' in a dictionary.

If you are referring to me as being ironic, I do not hate anyone. Can't maintain the emotion long enough.

And jon357, so far you and Nikidewbear seem to be the ones including harry that most people in this forum seem to argue and hate with the most. I think I'm way behind the lines of hate. And if I do say something that upsets you or her, a lot of times it's responsive (oh well, I never said I was perfect). But hopefully most people notice by threads I start that they are not offensive and are positive in nature.

;o)
jon357 71 | 20,031
4 Jul 2012 #112
If you are referring to me as being ironic, I do not hate anyone. Can't maintain the emotion long enough.

Oh dear. You still don't get it do you.

And by the way, irony is not the same as hate!
genecps 7 | 131
4 Jul 2012 #113
Please stop beating around the bush and say it.
jon357 71 | 20,031
4 Jul 2012 #114
No beating around the bush at all. Simple really. Teflcat was being ironic. See post #112.
Barney 15 | 1,496
4 Jul 2012 #115
Look at thread #11

Teflcat was being ironic cos of the thread title.
genecps 7 | 131
4 Jul 2012 #116
Oh, my bad!

I apologize to him, I didn't get that far into the topic after that ONE little frase that riled me up. hihihi
jon357 71 | 20,031
4 Jul 2012 #117
Hehe, no worries ;-)
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
4 Jul 2012 #118
Jews said they murdered Jesus. 'Let His blood be on us and our children' is what they were reported by the Evangelist as saying. And you can't argue with Scripture!
Harry
4 Jul 2012 #119
You carry on believing what your book of fairytales tells you, the rest of us will believe science and history.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,883
4 Jul 2012 #120
And you can't argue with Scripture!

Why can you not argue with scripture?

Simple question.


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