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LGBT hate speech to be banned in Poland


Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
9 Apr 2016 #121
Believe me

Believe me I do not care what people to in private. I am concerend when they invade schools (this isn't happening in Poland yet, but LGBT agitators do so in the US and other countries), tell young kids "it's OK to be gay" and then order the kidn not to tell their parents. The libertine campaigners are very much in the totalitarian mould -- all revolutioanry sytsems try to drive a wedge between parents and children and fill the resultant vacuum with their own ideology. It makes no difference whether it is fascism, marxism of LGBT-ism.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
9 Apr 2016 #122
tell young kids "it's OK to be gay" and then order the kidn not to tell their parents.

If I ever, ever caught someone doing that, I would either kick their ass from here to the bottom of the nearest lake - or if it was a female, I'd make sure they never got near kids again. My rule is that you tell kids nothing that you wouldn't be comfortable telling to their parents.

Doesn't matter what the topic is - ordering kids not to tell their parents about something is disgusting.

It's fine to be gay, straight, horsesexual, whatever - but it's not fine to manipulate children against their parents.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
9 Apr 2016 #123
s disgusting

I agree, bUt LGBT agitators esp. in nice neighbourhoods know that such agitation would not set well with many paremts, hence their precaution. Usually one or more pupils spill the beans and a big stink erupts in the school district.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
9 Apr 2016 #124
They should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for it, and I believe strongly that anyone trying such manipulation should be banned from working with kids for life without exception.

If you don't have the guts to stand by what you're saying, then you shouldn't say it at all.

People like that give LGBT communities a very bad name, and I have no time for them.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
9 Apr 2016 #125
@Pol: do you have reliable sources? Of course, this is wrong but do not believe that most gays/lesbians behave this way. In ALL social groups, there are bad and good people.
mafketis 25 | 9,324
10 Apr 2016 #126
tell young kids "it's OK to be gay" and then order the kidn not to tell their parents

This is like cashiers wearing pampers another urban legend that you've fallen for, hook, line and sinker. How does it feel to fall for every goofy story going?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
10 Apr 2016 #127
urban legend

Public school LGBT programs don't just trample parental rights. They also put kids at risk.
June 15, 2015 (ThePublicDiscourse) -- Through his executive appointments, President Obama has helped expose American schoolchildren to activism that places them at risk.
On May 19, 2009, a few short months after his inauguration, Obama gave the green light to Secretary of Education Arne Duncan to appoint Kevin Jennings to a top position to influence school policy. Jennings, a powerful LGBT rights activist who is himself is a homosexual, was the founder of the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). GLSEN is one of the largest LGBT activist organizations in the nation and is devoted to promoting homosexuality in K-12 schools.

GLSEN received a grant from the Centers for Disease Control in 2011 for $1.425 million over five years to promote the LGBT agenda in public schools at taxpayers' expense.
jon357 67 | 16,915
10 Apr 2016 #128
back on topic please

In a lot of ways this is on topic, since that particular political tendency in Poland do have a fixation with the subject. And that fixation is just one more factor (of many) that has made them a laughing stock.

Do you remember TinkyWinkygate, when one of their so-called ministers wanted to ban the Tellytubbies?
Marsupial - | 886
10 Apr 2016 #129
They did that here in public schools but not all of them. The current government watered down this procedure with much protest and a group of leftards raided a ministers office and trashed it which made them look more right winged. I have read this policy and consider it inappropriate for my kids. However, my kids don't go to public school and the private one they are at would close before considering such nonsense. There is definately a world wide infiltration and indoctrination attempt including there and here. You don't have to have constant extremist views to see that. It's not one of the things I worry about but if pis, a government I don't like, gets rid of this child abuse I would like them more regardless of their other insane policies.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
10 Apr 2016 #130
It is "funny" that whatever the topic, almost any thread goes bezirk and becomes a violent anti homosexual or anti muslim tribune! Most people in PF have never met a gay/lesbian or a muslim but it does not matter, they'll keep on talking nonsense about what they have no personal experience with.

Of course no RELIABLE source! Maybe in ONE school (in the US? But where exactly?) a crazy gay misbehaved but here again a stupid generalization. Although I keep informed with reliable medias from several countries, I have never read/heard something of the sort.

Unfortunately there is so much misinformation in the net and the simple minded take it for granted! Yes, Pol, there is a huge international conspiracy from LGBT and consorts to destroy the whole world ;). (PS: if we compare the misdeeds of the catholic Church and of the LGBT's community, guess who would win???? ;))
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
10 Apr 2016 #131
have a fixation

Those countries that dropped their guard and neglected their vigilance ended up having bloke on bloke liaisons imposed on a hapless society and even blasphemously referred to as "marriage".

Polonia semper fidelis et semper vigilare!

Although I keep informed

If so, read up on GLSEN. It may be an eye-opening experience. But remember: it will all seem nice, pleasant and sugar-coated to lure people into their trap, so be on your guard.
Harry
10 Apr 2016 #132
bloke on bloke liaisons

What's the longest time you can manage to go without thinking about gay sex? An hour?
Wulkan - | 3,249
10 Apr 2016 #133
Probably the whole day long when you have a day off from this forum.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
10 Apr 2016 #134
@Pol: I took a look and in my opinion, it's rather unfortunate that special attention must be given to gay students because of intolerance. for sure, some may be "overzealous" but you cannot condemn a whole group because of the misdeeds of a few of them, can you?

Democracy will be reached when we won't need special associations to protect rights of any minority ;).
jon357 67 | 16,915
10 Apr 2016 #135
What's the longest time you can manage to go without thinking about gay sex? An hour?

Rather less.

Anyway, hate speech has already been banned in Poland and not even PiS have suggested repealing the law.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
10 Apr 2016 #136
has already been banned

But apparently the KODerasts are exempted because they've been conducting their anti-government hate campaign without respite since last October and do not appear likely to stop any time soon.
jon357 67 | 16,915
10 Apr 2016 #137
Don't be silly, Po. The law is very clear, even if you dislike the rule of law.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
10 Apr 2016 #138
Don't be silly

Maybe you've got some inside dope on how they plan to finally admit their side lost the election, clean up their act and discontinue their hate rants and placards. Poland would breathe a sigh of relief and could go on with their normal lives without all the noxious disruption.
jon357 67 | 16,915
10 Apr 2016 #139
You're in a minority there, Po, given PiS' support levels.

Off topic too...
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
10 Apr 2016 #140
PiS' support levels

PiS command more support than the Petru & Schetyna sideshow combined! Have you missed the latest CBOS poll?
johnny reb 29 | 5,411
10 Apr 2016 #141
I took a look and in my opinion, you cannot condemn a whole group because of the misdeeds of a few of them, can you?

Yes, just like all considered undesirables are.
Listen to what the God fearing majority are saying.
Especially us tobacco spitting Rednecks that don't tolerate immoral perversions.
Banning LGBT hate speech will just make people say it quieter in public when it does get banned however since it is not banned yet let's take the opportunity to call it like it is !
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
10 Apr 2016 #142
Especially us tobacco spitting Rednecks that don't tolerate immoral perversions.

Please. We all know about rednecks and their love of that scene from Deliverance. Good ol' boys indeed!
TheOther 5 | 3,711
10 Apr 2016 #143
Especially us tobacco spitting Rednecks that don't tolerate immoral perversions.

Is that right?

Cousins
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
10 Apr 2016 #144
That chart is wrong. It should also contain "must marry" counties.
jon357 67 | 16,915
11 Apr 2016 #145
PiS command more support than the Petru & Schetyna sideshow combined! Have you missed the latest CBOS poll?

So looks like you don't understand much bout staistics, since far more people loathe them than support them.

Having said that, PiS have no intention of reversing the law on hate speech.
johnny reb 29 | 5,411
11 Apr 2016 #146
That chart is wrong. It should also contain "must marry" counties.

The charts aren't wrong, you are.
Those are States delph, not counties.
See how big Texas is........9 times bigger than the country of Scotland.
Counties......that's golden.
jon357 67 | 16,915
11 Apr 2016 #147
Texas

In what way does the American people's love of internet porn affect a law in Poland that nobody is proposing changing?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
11 Apr 2016 #148
loathe them

Petru's and PO's combined support is below PiS' 38%. You must subscribe to maleable PC or libertine statistics bendable at well to prove your point.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
11 Apr 2016 #149
Statistics?

Sure. The latest one reveals that 57% think that Duda is not the "President of all the Poles" that he claimed to be.

PiS are only doing well in the polls because PO and Nowoczesna have decided to let PiS dominate the political narrative. It was the same trick they pulled in 2006, which worked incredibly well because PiS couldn't stop themselves from saying and doing stupid things.The end result is well known.
jon357 67 | 16,915
11 Apr 2016 #150
Petru's and PO's combined support is below PiS' 38%

So you're trying to pretend that only supporters of those two parties oppose PiS? Supporters of the other parties like them even less. As your usual attempts at misinformation go, Po, that's a particularly pathetic one.

And nobody, including the appalling PiS are suggesting changing the law on hate speech...

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