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Poland - the least liked German neighbour.


Seanus 15 | 19,706
26 Jul 2010 #151
Well, Tusk values both Russia and Germany. He is not envious of any success, he is just focussing on maintaining cordial ties. Poland need not get involved with America in their provocative noises over Iran and NK. Their nuke obsession is caused by devious insiders who know that war brings profits. Many Americans are upset with this too. Hersh and Ritter have sought to expose the fallacy of nuclear threats.
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
26 Jul 2010 #152
Their nuke obsession is caused by devious insiders who know that war brings profits.

Very well said, profits for fat politicians in Washington, migraines for Poland. What did we get out of our involvement in the Iraq War, nothing, they promised us deals, contracts worth large amounts of money, all we got was dead soldiers and Muslims to hate us. What are we getting out of Afghanistan, same thing. If we keep this us Muslims might start attacking Poland. Iraq didn't even give us our 2 billion dollars they owed us since the 80's for tanks and APCs we sold them.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,154
26 Jul 2010 #153
I heard also something about Polish people from them. It was, let's just say, not nice....

No wonder, somehow you make people dislike you...what did you do this time? Again exchanging Bismarck with Hitler???
Pinching Pete - | 558
26 Jul 2010 #154
Be glad Germany still had some money to lend...

It might also be noted that "modern" Germany has money to lend because of the US.. Their little prosperity is not out of thin air and probably doesn't happen w/o Marshall plan funds and the US military presence on their continent for the past 70s. Of which they pay jack for, actually they make money off it.

Prediction: Germany leaves the EU in the next 15 years. US leaves Europe (it has to really) .. Germany could bel back to the old tricks of finding lebensraum in 20 years. The US is broke and cannot stop them.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,154
26 Jul 2010 #155
Their little prosperity is not out of thin air and probably doesn't happen w/o Marshall plan funds and the US military presence on their continent for the past 70s.

You just had to come up with this again, didn't you! ;)

But yes, Germany and Europe has alot to be grateful for to the US, especially the Berliners!
We won't forget that...

Germany could bel back to the old tricks of finding lebensraum in 20 years.

Not really...we won't have the people to populate the Lebensraum we already have! ;)

The US is broke and cannot stop them.

Nun ja...sometimes it would had been better if the US had stayed out of inter-european power quarrels in the first place!

Take WWI for expample:

no US meddling on the behalf of GB
Germany wins
no Treaty of Versailles
no Hitler
no WWII
Germany would still have a Kaiser! :)

We would had reached the natural balance in Europe much earlier...
Crow 137 | 7,858
26 Jul 2010 #156
Prediction: Germany leaves the EU in the next 15 years. US leaves Europe (it has to really) .. Germany could bel back to the old tricks of finding lebensraum in 20 years. The US is broke and cannot stop them.

to add prediction:
Slavs unite to stop Germany once and for all and then Slavs prevent USA to restore it. Case closed, peace in Europe
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,154
26 Jul 2010 #157
Case closed, peace in Europe

There IS peace in Europe you idiot Serb!
It's only you who want to disturb the peace and are warmongering again...
Pinching Pete - | 558
26 Jul 2010 #158
But yes, Germany and Europe has alot to be grateful for to the US, especially the Berliners!
We won't forget that...

Lol.. okay I tried to get you to attack. You got me. Krauts are good craftsmen and people vote with their purchases. Haiti has had loans too.. and look where they are.

Honestly though man, I'm not sure you are the usual German though. Pride is not as much one of your sins. And unfortunately.. the country probably has forgotten US help... Or dismissed it. Natural, I guess..

But it's true, the US is fastly becoming broke will have shortly have to leave the continent. Yaayy for taxpayers! Like ME!

I think Russia / German and probably Poland will form an economic alliance of sorts. They actually share a similiar mindset in many ways.

Not sure Germany will stay in the EU as it's voters are now strongly wanting out based on the Greece debacle. What I've heard anyway..
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,154
26 Jul 2010 #159
And unfortunately.. the country probably has forgotten US help... Or dismissed it. Natural, I guess..

You shouldn't mix the lefty loud mouthes with the more conservative but much quieter majority.
Sadly you won't hear them as much as they are much more busy with actually working and running the country. They will never forget.

But it's true that most Germans have no global ambitions whatsoever and if the US asks for german support in some hellhole elsewhere on the Globe it's not very popular in Germany.

I wish we (the US too) would stop that.

But it's true, the US is fastly becoming broke will have shortly have to leave the continent. Yaayy for taxpayers! Like ME!

I've just read somewhere that the numbers of Americans immigrating into Germany is actually rising! Welcome back home! :)

Not sure Germany will stay in the EU as it's voters are now strongly wanting out based on the Greece debacle. What I've heard anyway.

That was a warning shot....something has to change...we will see...
Crow 137 | 7,858
26 Jul 2010 #160
There IS peace in Europe you idiot Serb!
It's only you who want to disturb the peace and are warmongering again...

why did then Germany initiated bloody civil war in Yugoslavia? why cut political process in Yugoslavia?

and then NATO and EU backed Germany and attacked Yugoslavia and Serbia and even, side by side with Islamic league, transported mujaheedines in Bosnia and Kosovo? then in 1999 NATO openly attacked Serbia! IT WAS WAR IN EUROPE as i can remind myself!
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,154
26 Jul 2010 #161
IT WAS WAR IN EUROPE as i can remind myself!

Serbia doesn't count as Europe...
Crow 137 | 7,858
26 Jul 2010 #162
Serbs are older Europeans then Germans. You Germans mostly comes from us, by tragic mistake of circumstances. That`s why you hate us so much
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,154
26 Jul 2010 #163
That`s why you hate us so much

Not enough to not to embrace you in our germanic union, the EU! :):):)
Serbs can't wait to become a member! ;)
Pinching Pete - | 558
26 Jul 2010 #164
Take WWI for expample:

no US meddling on the behalf of GB
Germany wins
no Treaty of Versailles
no Hitler
no WWII
Germany would still have a Kaiser! :)

Well, in a roundabout way this is true. US businessmen has sold more arms to GB than Germany and of course were afraid if GB lost they would not get paid.. Sad but very trure.

Plus..

Don't sink the goddamn Lusitania. Stop the ship, arrest the captain.. take the munitions.. but don't sink a boat with women and kids on it.. EXTREMELY BAD MOVE. So was the Zimmerman telegram.. so was sinking ships of our coast. Germany had a lot of friends in the US.. this sealed the deal though.

Also, I blame the US's weird love for the Anglo Saxon as problematic too. Very dangerous affiliation, always has been imo. Perhaps, they would argue the same at this juncture.
Crow 137 | 7,858
26 Jul 2010 #165
US's weird love for the Anglo Saxon

and how they react and BS when Slavs are solider to each others

US businessmen has sold more arms to GB than Germany

Slavs were main target anyway, i would say
Natasa 1 | 580
26 Jul 2010 #166
No wonder, somehow you make people dislike you...what did you do this time?

Germans I met, many of them, DON'T like foreigners, among them also Polish people.

Bratwurst, I was just listening and enjoying idiocies "Übermenschen" with that special arrogance were babbling. Sad.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,154
26 Jul 2010 #167
Don't sink the goddamn Lusitania

The US already did support GB with weapons and munitions even as they were bound by their declaration of neutrality. They were warned by the Germans: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania#Last_voyage_and_sinking

This ship was FULL of ammunition and weapons...you were warned about breaking your neutrality and that the ship was entering war territory.

A dive team from Cork Sub Aqua Club, diving under license, discovered 15,000 rounds of the .303 (7.7×56mmR) caliber rifle ammunition transported on the Lusitania in boxes in the bow section of the ship. The find was photographed but left in situ under the terms of the license.[74] In December 2008, Gregg Bemis's dive team estimated a further four million rounds of .303 ammunition were on the ship at the time of it's sinking.

...and the british propaganda used it to the fullest to bring the US on their side into the war.
Congrats for falling for that trap!

...
Professor William Kingston of Trinity College, Dublin has said, "There's no doubt at all about it that the Royal Navy and the British government have taken very considerable steps over the years to try to prevent whatever can be found out about the Lusitania".[72]

...wonder why?
Pinching Pete - | 558
26 Jul 2010 #168
That was a warning shot....something has to change...we will see...

Oh it will change.. no one likes getting stuck with the check all the time. This is how German voters feel. Key word: voters.

France , Spain, GB to a degree more or less deadbeats.. Italy. Unsustainable long term. They aren't going to cut back that drastically.

I've just read somewhere that the numbers of Americans immigrating into Germany is actually rising! Welcome back home! :)

;-/ ... Uhhh, moving right along. Not nearly enough lebensraum there. Esp considering some of the fat a$$es over here.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,154
26 Jul 2010 #169
Not nearly enough lebensraum there

Heey...the East is just beautiful...and quite empty...! :)
And American immigration is of the sorts we won't object...it's like family coming back! ;)
Pinching Pete - | 558
26 Jul 2010 #170
and how they react and BS when Slavs are solider to each others

Hey man, I can't help the US always follows GB around like a stupid dog.. I know it's bad.

And American immigration is of the sorts we won't object...it's like family coming back! ;)

Vielern Dank, sp? .. On the flip side you are welcome to pickup where you left off in the 1840's.. OR.. loan us some of your schotzies (the Slavic kind too) so we can outbreed the negros and Mexicans as the situation has grown dire I fear.
Ironside 49 | 10,010
26 Jul 2010 #171
Poland is the least liked by German citizens.

Cry me a river !
I'm gonna cry nothing less than weeping would be adequate to deep hurt it sow in my heart. Sobbing is no good, tears torrent is the only answer to such a challenge.

Why oh why German citizens did make terrible choices against Poland.
Was it Grünewald or number of Mercedes kept as hostages by unknown Poles?
Was it concious decision or spur of the moment, could that be an honest mistake ?
Silent despair will overcome Poland- black, black days indeed!
Will our great whiskered president amend constitution to satisfy our beloved neighbour?
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,154
26 Jul 2010 #172
Silent despair will overcome Poland- black, black days indeed!

Drama queen! :)
Pinching Pete - | 558
26 Jul 2010 #173
Right.. they were just in China signing all kinds of new agreements

Awww ..my ancestors sank you.. GERMANEEs
time means 5 | 1,310
26 Jul 2010 #174
I can't help the US always follows GB around like a stupid dog..

Man you have written some shite in your time but that takes the biscuit (proper biscuits not those ones you dip in your gravy and have with grits)
Ironside 49 | 10,010
26 Jul 2010 #175
Man you have written some shite

No American football for him for a week eh? it will teach him !
time means 5 | 1,310
26 Jul 2010 #176
No American football for him for a week eh?

No Pete's a "good ol boy" so it's either NASCAR, tractor-pull or backyard wrestling that will teach him :-)
Pinching Pete - | 558
26 Jul 2010 #177
Man you have written some shite in your time but that takes the biscuit (proper biscuits not those ones you dip in your gravy and have with grits)

Why what's wrong with it? It's the truth.

Uhhh.. I'm not from the South, don't eat damn biscuits, sure as hell not grits and dont watch NASCAR. You're no more an intellectual than me just because you're European.

I probably wouldn't be criticizing anyone's cuisine anyway, you buckethead Limey.. as you woof down some beans on toast. Yackk.. wtf.
wildrover 98 | 4,451
26 Jul 2010 #178
as you woof down some beans on toast. Yackk.. wtf.

Hey easy there... Beans are my life blood ya know...!
time means 5 | 1,310
26 Jul 2010 #179
Why what's wrong with it? It's the truth.

Come on Pete it's the other way round.

as you woof down some beans on toast

You forgot the Marmite.

I'm not from the South

A yankee then :-)
Neil63 6 | 57
27 Jul 2010 #180
Oh God, 1939 again, I rest my case............. Any way, I'm sorry but I just can't take anyone seriously where they come from a country where lederhosen and oompa oompa music is considered cool and fashionable, and the population has had a charisma bypass operation at birth, sorry just not having it....... anyway where's your sense of humour........ oh forgot your German you don't have one, :-)))))))


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