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Is Poland the only high minded country of Cental and Eastern European countries?


jasinski 10 | 62
21 Mar 2010  #1
an ally so to speak.
Czarnkow1940 5 | 95
21 Mar 2010  #2
Poland is number 1 country of europe and has not ally only poland for its self.
Ksysia 25 | 430
21 Mar 2010  #3
and of western as well. of all europe.
Seanus 15 | 19,716
21 Mar 2010  #4
We saw in WWII the result of that selfish stance. Churchill ignored your country because he felt like you needed to learn a lesson. False bravado can be seen a mile off and exposed! Lately, a guy who I really respect, Pudzian, has turned to that. He feels he doesn't need a trainer, LOL.

Czarnkow, that kind of comment either comes from stupidity or deep-seated insecurity. Poland is in the EU now and has many freedoms and grants as a result. I'm not gonna assume anything about you but are you one of those Poles that never lived through communism but still sees himself as an expert on it? LOL

A no1 country doesn't need to be anybody's puppet!!
frd 7 | 1,399
21 Mar 2010  #5
Poland is number 1 country of europe and has not ally only poland for its self.

agreed
1jola 14 | 1,880
21 Mar 2010  #6
Is this the day that bored,poorly educated, and semi-literate kids from the States start multiple threads about nothing?
Seanus 15 | 19,716
21 Mar 2010  #7
No1 country of Europe, what does that mean? That it was the first to be discovered? That it leads in GDP? That it takes the lead role in international affairs?

Only for itself? That's about right!

Maybe we should switch places and let Poles relocate to Britain and we'd get Poland, more lebensraum for us. 58 million people with more space. The process is already underway ;)

You could get what Britain had before 1902, splendid isolation! That's what some of you seem to want. The new slogan 'Wielka Brytania dla Polaków, tylko My'. Island culture is nice :)
Sokrates 8 | 3,348
21 Mar 2010  #8
Maybe we should switch places and let Poles relocate to Britain and we'd get Poland, more lebensraum for us. 58 million people with more space. The process is already underway ;)

Carefull what you wish for, you get to be neighbours with charming countries like Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.
Seanus 15 | 19,716
21 Mar 2010  #9
Sok, my Polish isn't quite good enough at times to capture nuances. The OP clearly translated 'high-minded' from Polish as I doubt that a native speaker would use that. What is 'high-minded'? Ambitious? Superior? Na haju? ;)

We can deal with them, Sok, no problem!
Ziemowit 12 | 3,390
21 Mar 2010  #10
The OP clearly translated 'high-minded' from Polish as I doubt that a native speaker would use that. What is 'high-minded'? Ambitious? Superior? Na haju? ;)

I've just found this entry in my "Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English" book:

high-mindedadj having or showing very high esp. moral standards, perhaps too high; -lyadv, -nessn [U]
Seanus 15 | 19,716
21 Mar 2010  #11
Thanks, Ziemowit. I still don't get what the OP had in mind though. The very fact that Poland is 95% Roman Catholic but only 55-60% practise says sth in itself.

Let me ask, what lessons are learned AND TAKEN from church into real life?
skysoulmate 14 | 1,296
21 Mar 2010  #12
Yeah, I'm still confused what the question is? Is the question "are Polish high-minded?" a positive or a negative assertion? Could someone, preferably the initial poster ask this question in Polish? Maybe that would clarify things a tad?

high-minded
adj
1. having or characterized by high moral principles
2. Archaic arrogant; haughty
high-mindedly adv
high-mindedness n

I'm simply not used to this term - at least in this context. Sort of like asking "are Europeans cold-weathered?

Note, I'm not picking on Mr./Ms. Jasinski - I simply am confused on what the actual question is?
vetala - | 382
21 Mar 2010  #13
The OP clearly translated 'high-minded' from Polish

The OP doesn't speak Polish. Check his profile.
Seanus 15 | 19,716
21 Mar 2010  #14
High-minded is an Americanism? I've never come across it.
skysoulmate 14 | 1,296
21 Mar 2010  #15
Neither have I. Maybe I'm simply too low-minded? Oh, well, back to ABC's. ;)
scottie1113 7 | 898
21 Mar 2010  #16
High-minded is an Americanism? I've never come across it.

Neither have I, and I'm American.
Seanus 15 | 19,716
21 Mar 2010  #17
I'm off to have a coffee, maybe I'll get high-minded that way and get where I belong ;)
RevokeNice 15 | 1,860
21 Mar 2010  #18
Maybe we should switch places and let Poles relocate to Britain and we'd get Poland, more lebensraum for us. 58 million people with more space. The process is already underway

I support your proposal. But with a small change if I may, both groups settle in Poland. :)
Seanus 15 | 19,716
21 Mar 2010  #19
What, you mean the swamping effect in Poland?
Crow 143 | 7,520
22 Mar 2010  #20
Is Poland the only high minded country of Cental and Eastern European countries?

best post office institution in entire Europe. Definitely
Seanus 15 | 19,716
22 Mar 2010  #21
Best post office institution, what?
Crow 143 | 7,520
22 Mar 2010  #22
True. Very serious institution. Complete Europe would sound rediculous without realism of Polish post service
Seanus 15 | 19,716
22 Mar 2010  #23
Well, I have always had good experiences there but I have heard plenty of horror stories, largely of misappropriation of goods which is a heinous breach of trust.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,390
22 Mar 2010  #24
High-minded is an Americanism? I've never come across it.

Actually, after you've typed "high-minded" into thetimesonline search engine, you get 951 results as of today. The adjective has usually been used there with nouns such as 'seriousness', 'ambition', 'generosity' and others, or with reference to individuals and personalities.

The closest example of use of this adjective to the way it's been used in the title of this thread was in the review of the book by Nicholas Penny "National Gallery Catalogues: The 16th-Century Italian Paintings, Volume II: Venice 1540-1600" by Jonathan Keates in The Sunday Times of April 27, 2008:

"From the siren Serenissima, wicked old Venice full of sex, masks and money, we flee to the uncluttered austerities of high-minded Florence, to detox with bracing doses of Giotto and Fra Angelico."

But true, it was the only such use in connection to a country or a city that I've found in the list of searched results.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,391
22 Mar 2010  #25
Is Poland the only high minded country of Cental and Eastern European countries?

Do you mean do Poles take drugs?

Yes, some do, so you could call the high-minded...But Poles are not the only Europeans in this category.
Seanus 15 | 19,716
23 Mar 2010  #26
Exactly, native speakers (myself included) just don't get the drift of this word on both sides of the pond. It's a bit like the word earnest, not always so clear.
melsomelyb - | 10
23 Mar 2010  #27
The highest mind in Europe is a lost Dutch tourist ontop of an Alp. He knows little of Poland. He knows little of much but is enjoying life.
Mr Grunwald 19 | 1,543
23 Mar 2010  #28
having or showing very high esp. moral standards, perhaps too high

Isn't that enough for ye guys? xD

practicly: an idealistic schovinist: hinks his country got the best moral standars then anyone else (that's why TOO HIGH) just an idea

an ally so to speak

then we can come to the conslusion that since jasinksi lives in Colorado, USA I presume he is American and his question is: Is Poland, USA's ally?

I would say that any member of NATO is U.S.A's ally on paper. Yet Poland has shown greater sense of alliance then other countries in Europe making her a: ********** dog, ***** or anything along that line

BUT you gotta remember as there is a VISA problem for many Poles who wants to come to the USA, the people start to feel resentful or at least not the same as before considering U.S.A

But I can clearly say Poland is a lot more pro-American then other countries in Europe
Since they are more pro-themselves or pro-EU
While Poland (until now I think) thought of having U.S.A protection would serve Poland's national interests best as they don't get scared of protecting their "byt"

Yes U.S.A don't look at Poland as an ally or an sphere of influence that much since cold war is just over. That's why Poland wanted to have missile shield's in Poland (to have American troops here or an very important thing for the Americans)
Crow 143 | 7,520
23 Mar 2010  #29
Is Poland the only high minded country of Cental and Eastern European countries?

let me tell you something. Tusk isn`t especialy high minded
Ziemowit 12 | 3,390
23 Mar 2010  #30
As the thread begins to slide off into irrelevant topics such as the US visa problems for Poles or Tusk being not especially high-minded, I'm asking the mod to close it.


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