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Global politics and consequences for Poland; Would you like to know more?


Crow 150 | 9,558
29 Aug 2010 #1
alright. Let us talk about all aspects of global politics that eventually may affect Poland. In this discussion we aren`t limited by time and space if we may prove that outside events affecting Poland`s situation. We can even take in consideration eventual combined effects that some events in the world may generate and make impact on Poland.

Would you like to know more?- i ask. i want. What about you?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
29 Aug 2010 #2
Ok, Crow. I'll put the ball right in your court, being as you are an economist. Sławomir Skrzypek RIP (Smoleńsk victim) resisted those who wanted to hand over more control to the IMF and banking cartels. He saw the potential for disaster and used his Polish skills of resistance to keep the country on track. However, he is sadly no longer with us and was replaced by Belka. It didn't take him long to bend over and take Poland off down another, less desirable path.

My question to you is, 'do you feel that the detrimental impact of globalist initiatives like the IMF and World Bank is a very real threat to Poland or do you think it is exaggerated hysteria?'. Dziękuję z góry za odpowiedź :)
polishmeknob 5 | 155
29 Aug 2010 #3
Well, the EU and the euro certainly affect Poland. Things like NATO and the ISAF, WTO, shale gas finds, EuroCup 2012, the big sun storm… etc. will as well.
OP Crow 150 | 9,558
29 Aug 2010 #4
It didn't take him long to bend over and take Poland off down another, less desirable path.

consequences are always good way for tracing of different interests. On the other side, in modern `game` one (some interested side) can always predict consequences and affect choice of players in the game. What i want to tell you, if you chose such a case as it was Smolensk case, you are, i am afraid, always on the filed of speculations if you try to conclude who profit from the disaster.

Well, the EU and the euro certainly affect Poland.

sure

enemies of leading EU/NATO players seams that inevitable becoming enemies of official Poland. Just pick one from the global arena

Then, problems of leading EU/NATO powers becoming problems of Poland. Here, i point on constant fear from lack of resources and media pressure because of economic crisis. One can say- `Poland has enough resources for sustain development on the long run` and this could be truth or even more- we can agree that Poland as part of Slavic civilization has more then enough resources but, anyway, siding with EU/NATO, Poland chooses to feel every problem that threatening /for example/ Poland`s non-Slavic European partners. It is now paradox that same reasons (lack of resources and people) that pushed hostile non-Slavs in invasion on Slavic world/Poland (what initiated era of slavery/Drang Nach Osten) becoming reasons for Poland`s solidarity with so called west. It is so just because of official Poland blindly follow interests of leading EU/NATO powers and that way transfer their problems on its own population. That`s why Polish media so often speaks of global crisis.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
29 Aug 2010 #5
Crow, with all due respect, that wasn't what I asked at all. I asked you about the economic impact of Belka's path as opposed to that of Skrzypek's. Do you see any changes in the future for Poland?
OP Crow 150 | 9,558
29 Aug 2010 #6
I asked you about the economic impact of Belka's path as opposed to that of Skrzypek's. Do you see any changes in the future for Poland?

well, i don`t know much nor about Belka`s, nor about Skrzypek`s work. So, how could i judge here?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
29 Aug 2010 #7
Crow, how far does you economic expertise extend? Does it go outwith the borders of Serbia? I was terrible at Economics at university but I still picked up broad-based knowledge.

The way I see, and again no disrespect, if you have an interest in economic issues and you really want a Slavic Union then you should at the very least be familiar with the leading figures in Polish banking and what they are doing. Even I know them and I'm not involved with economic/financial studies at all.

Seriously, bankers have a HUGE influence on the world and I'm surprised that their work wasn't brought to your attention, Crow, very surprised indeed.
OP Crow 150 | 9,558
29 Aug 2010 #8
i have no words, man.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
29 Aug 2010 #9
Ok, no problem. Maybe you would like to ask me sth about Poland, seeing as I live here!?
FlaglessPole 4 | 669
29 Aug 2010 #10
i have no words, man.

Oh, c'mon Crow don't throw in the towel just yet. Bankers he says, that's a breeze. Think... I'll give you a small hint: A jostling tournament between Slavic and Arabic-Germanic bankers, sort of a warm-up before the total Slavic take-over led by Poland.

And you Seanus have mercy and don't go all high-brow on us poor Slavs, instead make yourself useful and get me those Rizlas, I'm still waiting...
Seanus 15 | 19,706
29 Aug 2010 #11
High-brow? Hardly! That's not my style. I just put what I thought should be bread and butter for an economist like Crow.

Poland is again out of the international limelight, Crow. The last major news was the missile shield. What new globalist developments do you see on the horizon?
OP Crow 150 | 9,558
29 Aug 2010 #12
Ok, no problem. Maybe you would like to ask me sth about Poland, seeing as I live here!?

ok. Why don`t you simple tell here more about Polish banking system, situation before and after Smolensk. i admit, that could be interesting in any case

Oh, c'mon Crow don't throw in the towel just yet. Bankers he says, that's a breeze.

no, no problem. Realy. i like Sean`s brain gymnastics

The last major news was the missile shield. What new globalist developments do you see on the horizon?

What?

i always see some tension between Poland and Russia. Even when tensions aren`t necessary. Its indicative. There are some third interests in background, definitely
Seanus 15 | 19,706
29 Aug 2010 #13
I'll give you my bank account details and we can talk ;) ;)

I like the third point you made. Putin was aware of the pulling effect of America on all Polish lead personnel, regardless of party affiliation. He then took his chance and PO are off down the road of closer ties.

How do you envisage cooperation being extended, Crow?
GlacaNI - | 5
29 Aug 2010 #14
What consequences ?Poland should be left alone,now polish have to go abroad to work, all becouse of global politicks and EU.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
29 Aug 2010 #15
Excuse me? What do you mean 'have to'? The EU is a help, not a hindrance to Poland in terms of grants and funds. We are discussing geopolitics here which can be a cagey affair.
GlacaNI - | 5
29 Aug 2010 #16
eu is not help to Poland, for many years poland had to obey eu rules and open market for eu states, who gained for 20 years ?who?

when uneployment was bigger after or before polish accesion to eu ?what next many poles have to look for job elswhere for gain of few,scorned by locals - thanks kurwa eu!
Seanus 15 | 19,706
29 Aug 2010 #17
Blame your own government for that! Unemployment was very high before your accession to the EU. Communism was effective in terms of granting full employment. However, the transition to an open market was a hard one. Besides, having 1/38 of your population away has a tendency to distort the figures.
GlacaNI - | 5
29 Aug 2010 #18
don't understand last sentesnce
blame government ? who do i balme? you ?funny guy,you are ! I'm only saying that eu is not help and work for forigenr is not that good !

i don't remeber communism - not really !
Seanus 15 | 19,706
30 Aug 2010 #19
Glaca, it helped MANY Poles find work in the UK and agencies allow Polish workers to skip the queue. Yes, there is undercutting but educated Poles can avoid all that. I try not to play the blame game but Tusk has done very little in the sphere of job creation. He has, however, given some incentives for people to start their own businesses.

Glaca, please mention geopolitics and not functional issues of the EU. Thanks!!
OP Crow 150 | 9,558
14 Sep 2010 #20
Global politics and consequences for Poland; Would you like to know more?

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pgtx 30 | 3,156
14 Sep 2010 #21
Would you like to know more?- i ask. i want. What about you?

no, not really... thank you :)
OP Crow 150 | 9,558
14 Sep 2010 #22
o? no problem
noreenb 7 | 557
14 Sep 2010 #23
It's not exactly the aspect of global politics.
Maybe, from some point of view.
It will sound a bit strange, because it's not connected with business, but if I were a Polish politic, I would observe foreign politics's body language during official meetings.

They are convinced and sure of decisions they make.
Even if they might be wrong, gesture of their hands and all body say: "it's fine", "we are right" or: "we will discuss" or "somebody else will take responsibility for a decision we make or will make or a decision that may/might/will be made.

This is actually often forgotten aspect of politics: The way how people, who are responsible for others discuss, make important or crucial decisions and how they look being in the eye of camera
southern 75 | 7,096
15 Sep 2010 #24
Basically their body language sends the message we control the situation you don't need to worry,we have reached firm decisions and will follow them.


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