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Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet?


Ironside 51 | 11,338
30 Oct 2018 #241
They stem from the same tradition.

Yet, are not the same, it was lost some time around Napoleonic times.

It's precisely the sort of thing that should be discussed on a Polish forum.

No one interested. Don't you know it by now?
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
30 Oct 2018 #242
I notice that in Poland some are only interested in themselves, shame if Poles are no longer interested in their history, heritage and the skills that served them well for hundreds of years.

Maybe the commies did a better job of re-education and pacification than I had thought, what need of remembrance of independence if no one is interested.

Yet, are not the same, it was lost some time around Napoleonic times.

Oh dear would you still use a flintlock rifle, the Szabla was last brought up to date in 1934, last used in 1939 it dates back to the 16th century.

" Polish-Soviet War was a conflict in which the cavalry's mobility played a decisive role." , does that war ring a bell Polish Independence?, weapon of choice Szabla.

Here is some more on the subject of our history (If you are at all interested in it)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szabla_wz._34
Miloslaw 14 | 4,190
30 Oct 2018 #243
Not that you would know anything about the situation - not being really Polish - but looking at the home country through a rosy hue...............

Point taken Doug,but I certainly do not see Poland through rose tinted glasses.....I have family there and have spent enough time there to understand both the downsides and advantages of living in Poland.

The fact that I continue to live in England says it all.
But I can still hope for a better future and maybe one day,if things improve,would think of moving there.
Although I am,in effect,a "Plastic Pole",I am only British by birth,my parents,grandparents and 7 generations that have been traced back are all Polish.I speak Polish and know the history,customs,cuisine etc.....so,not all that "Plastic".... :-)
Dougpol1 32 | 2,673
30 Oct 2018 #244
Excellent Miloslaw. You could do the same as Dolno. I know I would, in your position. Getting on in years means you would have have time to indulge yourself - grandchildren notwithstanding.

Just going through the Smiths/ Morrissey catalogue, and I have 230 recordings of Herbert von Karajan on Deutsche Gramophon to get through!
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
30 Oct 2018 #245
You could do the same as Dolno.

Hmm however good your credentials or ability to speak the language, as an past exile there will always be an element of feeling that you are in the limbo of the second republic, and at times your ghost ship from Anders army, is struggling to anchor comfortably in today's Poland.

Herbert von Karajan !!! gonna have to google him , Eurovision ? :D)
Miloslaw 14 | 4,190
30 Oct 2018 #246
as an past exile there will always be an element of feeling that you are in the limbo of the second republic

I fully understand that the Poles in Poland today bear little resemblance to my parents and grandparents generation.
But isn't that true of most western countries?
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
30 Oct 2018 #247
I wasn't making any criticism or judgement, it is what it is , I was just talking about levels of comfort.

I don't think Poland can be compared to countries like the UK,Germany or the US, Its very different
Miloslaw 14 | 4,190
30 Oct 2018 #248
Agreed.All I was comparing was the generational difference.
Communism of course played a large part in changing attitudes too.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
30 Oct 2018 #249
I think so, and I have a feeling that some of the negative elements during the march are in some way protesting against authority as they did in the bad days of communism, but really their is no place for extremism in Poland today.

Yeah I have found Poland different, certainly different to the picture to me as a child, some good differences and some bad, on the whole my wife and I love the place., we feel safe here and that's huge.
Dougpol1 32 | 2,673
30 Oct 2018 #250
Just beginning to understand you Dolno (I am slow on the uptake...) It must be wonderful if bittersweet to be able to return to the land of your parents and forbears. I could never go back to Nottingham to live....the memories of a past life would cut me up.
OP Spike31 3 | 2,178
31 Oct 2018 #251
For Polish readers. They know what I'm talking about


delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
31 Oct 2018 #252
Hahahaha, more propaganda :)

It's amazing how much effort you're putting into promoting an event attended mostly by bald men from villages.

Tell us, why did the organisers refuse to agree to red/white flags only? Are they anti-Polish?
Crow 154 | 10,638
31 Oct 2018 #253
Poles should mention Gavrilo Princip during event. Without honor to Gavrilo its not sincere celebration.
Miloslaw 14 | 4,190
31 Oct 2018 #254
You need to blame The Jews.......you exposed yourself on a different thread.....I will hound you for your blatant anti semitism till you retract your comments.
Dirk diggler 10 | 5,009
1 Nov 2018 #255
@Spike31

2018 is going to be epic - as big or maybe even bigger than last year. I can't wait. It'll be the largest display of patriotism and national pride in all of Europe. In a way it's kind of sad that the largest march is in Poland and not other EU countries with 2x 3x+ the population. Well that's what happens when you have countries like Germany where the cops tell citizens that the national flag 'provokes' and so they should put it away... or France where Antifa would do everything to ruin an independence day celebration. It's like being proud in your country and its culture is frowned up.. may even become illegal with the way things are going in w Europe....

I guarantee you that the eurocrat globalists like verhofstadt and Juncker will be whining that '60k nazis' marched in Poland... sh1t like that only pushes polish citizens away from the eu establishment...
cms neuf - | 1,984
1 Nov 2018 #256
Epic for you - you can follow all the action from your bedroom in Chicago and not have to get cold sore feet.
lonpol 7 | 69
1 Nov 2018 #257
T-10 until the biggest yearly libtard triggering event know to man
cms neuf - | 1,984
1 Nov 2018 #258
Right so now I get it - I thought it was a proud celebration of Polish independence but really it's an event to "trigger libtards". The same libtards who have to foot the bill for its policing.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
1 Nov 2018 #259
I mean, if it's such a peaceful event, why does it need such heavy policing?

Still, I find it interesting that it's all foreigners cheerleading this event and not Poles. It's also very interesting that they completely ignore the hundreds of other events going on in Poland in order to push this one.
WielkiPolak 58 | 1,024
1 Nov 2018 #260
It's amazing how much effort you're putting into promoting an event attended mostly by bald men from villages.

Mostly bald men from villages? Now you're just repeating mainstream media propaganda.

Tell us, why did the organisers refuse to agree to red/white flags only? Are they anti-Polish?

They did not refuse to agree to red/white flags only, they simply said they could not guarantee it would only be red and white flags, and that's what PiS wanted. They're not going to spend all day confiscating flags from people to appease the government. In a free country you should be able to bring whatever flag you want, not be censored. They want to encourage people to take part in the march, not push them away.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
1 Nov 2018 #261
Mostly bald men from villages? Now you're just repeating mainstream media propaganda.

Interestingly, I was looking for some pictures now, and I found some curious ones from last year - any idea about these?




WielkiPolak 58 | 1,024
1 Nov 2018 #262
How many people are in those pics delph, compared to how many attended the march? There were literally thousands of normal families there.

plus they don't seem to be right wingers either. They people in the pic on the bottom seem to be calling for freedom for Belarusian Antifa.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
1 Nov 2018 #263
No, I'm only wondering about those groups, that's all.

Don't believe the propaganda about "normal families" - they were already ridiculed for using pictures from different occasions/different days.

Do you see normal families here?







The majority of normal families are taking part in other events throughout that day. Why are they so determined to push the line that "families come to us!!" when they clearly don't?
OP Spike31 3 | 2,178
1 Nov 2018 #264
The families are present, the kids are present and also a young patriotic men are present. Young men are the future on the nation so there's nothing wrong with that there's so many of them on the march, quite on the contrary.

But that doesn't change the fact that the families with kids and young women are also present on the march in big numbers.


delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
1 Nov 2018 #265
Young men are the future on the nation so there's nothing wrong with that there's so many of them on the march, quite on the contrary.

Sorry, but these aren't the future of anything. They're just people taken straight from the football terraces to Warsaw once a year, nothing more.

But that doesn't change the fact that the families with kids and young women are also present on the march in big numbers.

They aren't, no matter how hard you try and use a couple of pictures to prove otherwise. It's just classic propaganda - you're showing close-ups of one or two people to "prove" the point, yet when you look at larger groups of people, they're barely present.

By the way, even in the propaganda picture you just posted, several of them are hardly what one would call "the future". If that's the future of Poland, then the country will be one big chicken factory.







Where are these families? Are they hiding? It seems that it's mostly men. I wonder why?
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
1 Nov 2018 #266
future of Poland,

If you look at the first picture you posted above, tell me what is wrong with marching to denounce communism and nazi's

The banner reads No Nazis, No commies with the Polish eagle in the middle.

Are you aware that Nazi's and commies murdered millions of us.

Does it cause you pain to see the hammer and sickle being rejected so publicly.
lonpol 7 | 69
1 Nov 2018 #267
Right so now I get it - I thought it was a proud celebration of Polish independence but really it's an event to "trigger libtards".

I notice how some of the anti march people struggle with simple logic.

I was stating ( rejoicing ) the impact of the marsz not its meaning. Based on some of the responses in this thread and the media it would be difficult to refute this impact.
cms neuf - | 1,984
1 Nov 2018 #268
But shouldn't the impact be to make Poles think deeply about what 100 years of independence means ?

In fact the true impact will be to trigger libtards - most of whom will have left town as they have better things to do than witness a homoerotic firework display by provincial football hooligans
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
1 Nov 2018 #269
tell me what is wrong

Where's the women? Where's the families? They seem to be strangely missing.

trigger libtards - most of whom will have left town as they have better things to do than witness a homoerotic firework display by provincial football hooligans

That's the funniest thing I've ever read on here! :D

It's exactly that, a homoerotic firework display by provincial football hooligans.

One thing that strikes me from these pictures is how miserable these poeple are. They're all dressed in dark clothes, they look miserable and there's no joy on their faces. It's completely different to other independence day celebrations, such as this in PoznaƄ -



Where there are in fact women and children :)
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
1 Nov 2018 #270
Where's the women?

There are women and young boys in the very picture YOU posted, are you blind, enlarge it it if you need .

What is your problem?, you need to cleanup your own Nazi saluting Scottish unionist backyard.

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