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MORE ANTI-POLISH SENTIMENT IN GERMANY


Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
29 Mar 2011 #61
I guess the reason Allo Allo was so popular in Poland was the fact that Poland and Poles were never mentioned once

I'm sure vast majority of Poles wouldn't have been offended If they have included a Polish guy being drunk half the time, stealing German military vehicles, hidding chased by 3 women, each being a mother of his child etc. If it was done the way other nationalities were portrayed there. The problem with German jokes about Poles is that they use to show some guy, who smell of cow ****, his kids are ugly and dirty etc. and that's not funny, that's simply pathetic.

in Poland jokes about Germans are rare and always in good taste.
AdamKadmon 2 | 508
29 Mar 2011 #63
Name change [Hitler]

A guy named Alfons Hitler is in an office to hand in an application to change his name.
guesswho 4 | 1,289
29 Mar 2011 #64
A TV show pushing the imagery of a people from a given nation having inferior intelligence, is always meant to be a positive portrayal of the country.

OK, if it's so insulting then why the hell a Polish guy plays the main role in this video? If he found it insulting, I guess he wouldn't be in it to begin with.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
29 Mar 2011 #65
In America it's different, ethnic jokes are a no no.

It's fair enough - if Americans want to have uber political correctness and not even risk making fun out of anyone, that's fine by them.

But keep the **** out of European affairs - we're not interested in petty inner American rivalries between Jews, Polacks and so on.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
29 Mar 2011 #66
keep the **** out of European affairs

America saved Europe from Nazi domination and then paid to have its Western part rebuilt. Polonia hating trolls should leave this Polish discussion forum.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
29 Mar 2011 #67
Typical dumb patriotic (to America) Polack talk.

Frankly, we don't need idiotic Americans stirring up trouble between us - we're perfectly capable of mocking and insulting each other without your help.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,697
29 Mar 2011 #68
A guy named Alfons Hitler is in an office to hand in an application to change his name.

Gawd! :):):)
pgtx 30 | 3,156
29 Mar 2011 #69
America saved Europe from Nazi domination and then paid to have its Western part rebuilt.

hehe... i think we have had a thread about the USA's impact during WWII...
AdamKadmon 2 | 508
29 Mar 2011 #70
Gawd! :):):)

And Alfons second meaning is a pimp (Zuhälter). So when the office worker is asking about the first name and is given the answer Alfons, then he is saying that he is not asking about ocupation.
Marynka11 4 | 676
29 Mar 2011 #71
Another Marek's Video. Marek-Supernanny.
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Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
29 Mar 2011 #72
Polack

If you called me this to my face you would be swallowing your rotten British teeth.
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
29 Mar 2011 #73
But keep the **** out of European affairs - we're not interested in petty inner American rivalries between Jews, Polacks and so on.

I told u a zillion times, Polack is an derogatory term for all Poles not just Polish Americans, actually especially Poles in Poland or ones who recently came to the States.

America saved Europe from Nazi domination

Exactly, if America kept out of Polish or European affairs Poland would never have gained her independence after WWI, western European nations didn't give a rat's ass about Poland, Woodrow Wilson pushed for Poland's independence. America allowed millions of Poles to escape from poverty and communism, Reagan backed Solidarity.
Stu 12 | 522
29 Mar 2011 #74
Come on guys. Take this all a little lighter.

No gay person felt offended by Mr. Humphries in Are You Being Served

youtube.com/watch?v=uOmS3sb9oxE

No-one from the original Home Guard ever felt offended by the silly lot of Captain Mainwaring in Dad's Army

youtube.com/watch?v=Qr_v_SqJNjA

The Brits always had a good laugh about themselves in Allo Allo. I can't imagine the French, Germans or the Italians felt offended either

...

And the Germans didn't feel angry about Basil Fawlty either
...

Speaking of which, I don't think any Spanish from Barcelona feels offended by Fawlty.

youtube.com/watch?v=H-oH-TELcLE&feature=related

And somehow I don't think the Swedes were all up in arms when they watched the Muppet Show

youtube.com/watch?v=sY_Yf4zz-yo

Don't feel yourself so damn important and think the whole world is out to get the Polish. What must all the above listed think.

Funny someone in this thread should mention political correctness; I thought you were all against it?!. There is nothing wrong with poking fun at other nations ... nothing at all.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
29 Mar 2011 #75
I told u a zillion times, Polack is an derogatory term for all Poles not just Polish Americans, actually especially Poles in Poland or ones who recently came to the States.

I'm claiming it as an offensive word to describe plastic Poles in America. It's not aimed at real Poles, nor is it aimed at the decent Poles who go to America for a better life - it's solely used to describe those that wouldn't do a damned thing for Poland.

If you called me this to my face you would be swallowing your rotten British teeth.

Sure. Easy to say on the internet, tough Polack.

Then again, it's a hallmark of being a Polack - you sit around, whine and complain about alleged insults, yet when it comes to actually getting off your ass and helping Poland - naaah. Too difficult.

There is nothing wrong with poking fun at other nations ... nothing at all.

Exactly. We have a stereotype of the Dutch all being sex crazed monsters who ride bikes and stick their thumbs in dikes while wearing clogs. Heck, even one guy named his flat the "Lothar Mattheus" flat in order to make sure that Dutch people didn't visit!
Stu 12 | 522
29 Mar 2011 #76
We have a stereotype of the Dutch all being sex crazed monsters who ride bikes and stick their thumbs in dikes while wearing clogs.

:D:D ... you forgot to mention we all smoke pot, Delph ... :D
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
29 Mar 2011 #77
That too!

(that, and we like the Dutch football team)
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
29 Mar 2011 #78
I'm claiming it as an offensive word to describe plastic Poles in America. It's not aimed at real Poles, nor is it aimed at the decent Poles who go to America for a better life - it's solely used to describe those that wouldn't do a damned thing for Poland.

Making up your own definitions i see, interesting. Thank you for calling me a decent Pole who moved to America though, that was nice.

If you called me this to my face you would be swallowing your rotten British teeth.

Des he's not British, just a simple country boy from Hujowa Górka.
Daisy 3 | 1,225
29 Mar 2011 #79
Can we all play? :) more stereotypes
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,697
29 Mar 2011 #80
Exactly. We have a stereotype of the Dutch all being sex crazed monsters who ride bikes and stick their thumbs in dikes while wearing clogs. Heck, even one guy named his flat the "Lothar Mattheus" flat in order to make sure that Dutch people didn't visit!

Yeah....but I think also Dutchies would feel insulted if portrayed as drunk, dumb thieves only...

There IS a difference I fear.

Question...how can Poles achieve "better" stereotypes?

I mean...we Germans got our humourless Nazi type also not before the 30's/40's....so stereotypes can change!
Before that we had been the "merry band with the funny jokes who suck at football". ;)
AdamKadmon 2 | 508
29 Mar 2011 #81
more stereotypes

Who can understand that Glasgow patter?
OP rychlik 41 | 373
29 Mar 2011 #82
in Poland jokes about Germans are rare and always in good taste.

These are visible cultural differences. The krauts are more sadisitc and the Poles are once again taking it in the a,ss. These people mock you without reason and the only reaction is to be polite? This is absurd!! I seriously think krauts need a serious a,ss kicking on Polish comedy sketch shows. It's one thing to be clever in your humour, but it's something else to use crude, insulting humour- like the Germans. It shows their taste and lack if intellect.

Having been extremely cruel to Poles in the last century which has caused majour distrust from Poles towards the Germans, I am shocked they would produce such insulting comedy in 2011. Nobody has really answered my question why Germans don't insult Jews (or even blacks) like this. It would be interesting to know how many Germans have contact with Poles on a regular basis?
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
29 Mar 2011 #83
Question...how can Poles achieve "better" stereotypes?

If Germans joked about Poles not being too good in football (as they are not lately) i wouldn't mind so much.
Stu 12 | 522
29 Mar 2011 #84
Yeah....but I think also Dutchies would feel insulted if portrayed as drunk, dumb thieves only...

So we are portrayed as everlasting pot smokers, or dumb, cheese eating farmers walking around in clogs ... I can't really say I feel overly insulted by that.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,697
29 Mar 2011 #85
These are visible cultural differences. The krauts are more sadisitc and the Poles are once again taking it in the a,ss.

I am shocked they would produce such insulting comedy in 2011

It shows their taste and lack if intellect.

You know that the main protagonist in that show is an ethnic Pole don't you? ;)

You Mister are not the best ambassador for your people...expect more of the dumb/drunk/thieves variant! Just to annoy you! :):):)

Nobody has really answered my question why Germans don't insult Jews (or even blacks) like this

Nun ja...I don't know any funny stereotypes about Jews to be honest (the same with Blacks).

So we are portrayed as everlasting pot smokers, or dumb, cheese eating farmers walking around in clogs ... I can't really say I feel overly insulted by that.

Cheese eating - check
clogs - check
pot smoking - check

But I don't know any "dumb Dutch" jokes...really...

Well....therehadbeenthatspittingincident...
OP rychlik 41 | 373
29 Mar 2011 #86
You know that the main protagonist in that show is an ethnic Pole don't you? ;)

You Mister are not the best ambassador for your people...expect more of the dumb/drunk/thieves variant! Just to annoy you! :):):)

Drop dead you Nazi a,sshole. You're too stupid to see the point- it was produced in Germany with German money. The Polish actor would probably take any role. How clever of the evil german media- use a Polish actor to mock the Poles. I guess they're off the hook. They're condoning racist, crude humour!

Anyways, you dumb germans would live in filth and die out without the Poles coming to your country, work and keep your economy afloat. Sleep on that you fat, bratwurst eating basterd.

Answer my question about the Jews smart a,ss. You guys don't pick on them, right? How about Russians, Ukrainians? Way more disorganized than Poland ever will be.

Anyways, let the krauts die out.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,697
29 Mar 2011 #87
Heh:)

You should try some of these Polish jokes...really fitting in your case! :):):)
southern 75 | 7,096
29 Mar 2011 #88
Typical german humor.This video for example cannot be played in US TV.German humor has sadistic quality.

youtube.com/watch?v=KhapwD2Xjcg
Marynka11 4 | 676
29 Mar 2011 #89
Remember at school there were some fat kids who were called names and were miserable, and there were some fat kids who were cool? The difference was, that the cool fat kids had enough self distance to say " You call me fat? Whatever. I call myself fat too."

Same with Marek's sketches. He smears the Polish stereotypes into the German's faces. By being offended by this "ant-polish" jokes we show that they hit some soft spot. By ignoring them and laughing along we diminish the importance of those stereotypes.
George8600 10 | 636
29 Mar 2011 #90
Even the Turks can laugh about themselves...yes....and the Germans!

hahaha, got anything on Greeks? :-)


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