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A J 4 | 1,088
22 Jun 2010 #301
I suppose that the "if it's even true" comment is typical because people have been fed all the feminist nonsense about women being "victims" only and men of course being the perpetrators.

How many men have been abused by a woman, Zimmy? I know some women play head games when they're mad at you, but physical abuse? I'm not going to deny that it happens, but seriously, in most cases, a woman can't take on a man. (No offense!) So how many women abuse their partners, Zimmy? How many women abuse their children?

2%?? 3%?? Maybe??

;)

Just saying!
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
22 Jun 2010 #302
I'm surprised that you didn't try to explain to Zimmy the abused kids statistic

I have overlooked that. I will do so later on. For now I have to go.

2%?? 3%?? Maybe

It doesn't fit into Zimmy male superiority complex that of course more men than women abuse their kids, either physically or even sexually.

>^..^<

M-G (in a hurry)
ZIMMY 6 | 1,601
22 Jun 2010 #303
If Fiebert consideres a slap on the butt or on the shoulder or on the face as violence, then he has a very low treshold where violence is concerned

If you actually took the time to read how the hundreds of studies were done than you would not ask such a dumb question. You can google these studies (as I did with about 40 of them).

ZIMMY:
Ms Pizzey was a feminist who started the first womens shelter in England

You've said that many times. I still don't care.

Here we have a woman who started the first womens shelter in England because she cared about battered women. This was an epic event and many more shelters came out of it. Hard to believe that you don't care. Guess your agenda is more important than facts.

ZIMMY:
She learned the hard way what feminism was about when they threatened her, fire bombed her, and slammed her every-which-way because she did not confirm to their male hatred

Another lie, you really are falling down on this one. She never stated that. Her big sin with feminists was that she tried to treat women and men equally. Feminists who firebombed her couldn't handle that. As to "confirming things to" myself, I don't have a need too. Those events were in the news. But then, facts are unimportant to liberals. Only feelings are.

But I will trash you again later,

Heh,heh,heh, you really are unaware of how desperate you sound. Your misrepresentations, some of which I've corrected, are here for all to see.

How many men have been abused by a woman, Zimmy?

If you had looked at my links you wouldn't ask that question. I'll make it easy for you; heres one:

csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm

in most cases, a woman can't take on a man.

That's not even the point. Many women hit men and know the men in their life won't strike back. Relationships are 'dynamic'. People know each other and each others weaknesses. They use them against each other regardless of size.

How many women abuse their children?

I've linked that one too (sigh). I suggest you brush up before asking questions that have already been recently answered in these threads.

Just saying!

Just linking

It doesn't fit into Zimmy male superiority complex that of course more men than women abuse their kids, either physically or even sexually.

See above link.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
22 Jun 2010 #304
If you actually took the time to read how the hundreds of studies were done than you would not ask such a dumb question.

Just let me repeat:

Early studies that merely asked "have you been a victim of domestic violence" did find far lower levels of male victims; but when they asked about specific behaviors ("have you been slapped, punched,...), the numbers evened out.

From the Wiki Link I presented in my previous post.

Gee, Zimmy, why do you make it so easy for me to slap you around? It's getting boring. Either come up with decent reasoning and credible sources or I definitively dismiss you in this respect. A slap in the face is no domestic violence; domestic violence is when the partner gets beaten into the hospital or is black and blue all over. A slap in the face can be caused by discriminating remarks, sexist remarks or swearing of the "victim". If I say to a girl in a bar that she has a great body and I would love to sleep with her, chances are that I get slapped in the face. And I deserved in that case. Is this violence? Not in the sense of domestic violence. It's far too harmless to be counted in with the black and blue eyes, the bruises and sth death which is considered to be domestic violence, therefore these researches give a skewed image and that should be counted on Fiebert.

Another lie, you really are falling down on this one.

Heh,heh,heh, you really are unaware of how desperate you sound. Your misrepresentations, some of which I've corrected, are here for all to see.

Really Zimmy, stop making yourself ridiculous. You have proven nothing except that you are a male chauvinist pig. Everybody can see that.

>^..^<

M-G (haec hactenus)
Ironside 50 | 10,907
22 Jun 2010 #305
You have proven nothing except that you are a male chauvinist pig.

What that ?
By the way you sound as a woman, weird ?!
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
22 Jun 2010 #306
I rebuke nonsense, as I have done many times. Why does it this time sound like a woman? Because it's about women?

>^..^<

M-G (haec hactenus)
OP Allison 5 | 118
23 Jun 2010 #307
Fact is, women abuse their children more often than men if all categories except one. That one is sexual abuse. Even here, people are unaware of the facts. Lots of interesting articles here

If I could ban you from posting your bs on this thread, then I would.
A J 4 | 1,088
23 Jun 2010 #308
If you had looked at my links you wouldn't ask that question. I'll make it easy for you; heres one;

Instead of posting a link, you could just answer a simple question with a simple answer, because it seems my estimated guess wasn't too far off? (Besides, you can't expect me to read all those articles.)

;)

That's not even the point. Many women hit men and know the men in their life won't strike back.

No? Well, my point is that there aren't many women who hit men, unless the men have been a total *******. There are only a few women who need anger management, and the same goes for men. Most people treat their partners with respect.

Relationships are 'dynamic'. People know each other and each others weaknesses. They use them against each other regardless of size.

If she feels the need to use your weaknesses against you, then you're obviously doing something wrong.

I've linked that one too (sigh). I suggest you brush up before asking questions that have already been recently answered in these threads.

When you're discussing something in real life, are you going to link everything? Again, I'm scrolling up and down, and I read posts. You can't expect me to read everything people link, because that would keep me reading 24/7. It's better when you write down what you know.

But in this case, I've read a little, and this is what I've found;

According to the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System's most current report, Child Maltreatment 2008, of the approximately 772,000 child abuse and neglect victims in 2008, the largest percentage of perpetrators, nearly 80 percent (80.1) were parents of the victim, including birth parents, adoptive parents, and stepparents. Of the parents who were perpetrators, more than 90 percent (90.9) were biological parents, about 4 percent (4.4) were stepparents, and about 1 percent (0.7) were adoptive parents. Other relatives accounted for an additional 6.5 percent, and an unmarried partner of a parent accounted for 4.4 percent of perpetrators.

Okay, so we have 772.000 cases of child abuse out of a population of 309,567,991. In 56% of those cases the women were the perpetrators, according to this article. Which means that roughly 432.320 children were abused by women, which means that roughly 0.7% of the women out there abuse their children.

So that's why I disagree with terms like ''many women''. You make it sound as if women are monstrous sometimes.

See above link.

*sigh*
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
23 Jun 2010 #309
You make it sound as if women are monstrous sometimes.

True. In Zimmy's world the men (the summit of innocense and kindness) and kids sit trembling in their chairs when mom comes home, afraid that she might be frustrated about sth that happened at work, perhaps because some other woman wore a nicer dress than she did, or perhaps she is again drunk...And when they just so much as open their mouth, mom will beat the crap out of them. Because yeah, women are so agressive that they can vent their frustrations only by using violence, especially when they're drunk and all blockades have gone.

Of course, the truth is far from the above example. But then again, Zimmy thinks males are superior to females. So it's logical he thinks this way. And he's determined: nothing will bring him off this conviction.

Edit: but what he doesn't realise in his crusade against women is that in order to prove the male superiority he achieves just exactly the opposite from this.

>^..^<

M-G (grumpy)
Pinching Pete - | 558
23 Jun 2010 #310
Zimmy thinks males are superior to females.

I don't think he's really stated it that way. He's called out a lot of hypocrisy that often exists with Western women nowadays. Congrats if you have't been "bitten" but some of us have.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
23 Jun 2010 #311
The facts suggest otherwise. Nobody has denied that women can be violent, but the number of men being violent is of course much higher. A little thing called testostoron, remember?

>^..^<

M-G (grumpy)
A J 4 | 1,088
23 Jun 2010 #312
I don't think he's really stated it that way.

Not exactly in those words, no. But my observation still stands: I see him use overexaggarations more often than not, while infact, we're talking about less than 1% of the total population. He often uses a condescending and belittling tone whenever he's discussing something with women.

He's called out a lot of hypocrisy that often exists with Western women nowadays.

He certainly raises a valid point every now and then, but then again you'd do well to remember that the opposite can also be said, because there are also a lot of men who treat women like a plaything. Some women seem to like it that way, but still.. You can't change how women think, and how they feel, and you don't have to, because all those little differences are exactly what make our lives interesting. I mean to say that both men and women compliment eachother, because of those differences.

Congrats if you have't been "bitten" but some of us have.

I've been bitten all my life, but I still see a few girls and women smile every now and then. I just mean to say that a little more objectivity wouldn't hurt Zimmy at all. If you're really going to be honest then you'd acknowledge that men and women aren't so much different from eachother, but that our society and its social structure usually forces them into accepting a certain role. If you'd ask me, it's time for a new director, and a perhaps a better script, because this one seems played?

;)

A-J (Knows there are two sides to every story.)
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
23 Jun 2010 #313
AJ and MareGaea.. two Dutch dudes waiving the flag for women and gay rights.. hmm.

Yeah, so? They are humans, aren't they? We allow you and the likes of Zimmy rights too, don't we?

>^..^<

M-G (grumpy)
Izvirai 1 | 6
23 Jun 2010 #314
Since you live in England and have been in a shelter, I am curious as to what you think about this article by Erin Pizzey who opened up the first womens shelter there.

You know, i was going to respond to this but after reading those articles i realised it was pointless to get into any sort of discussion with you.

If America votes left wing at these elections, they can kiss their families goodbye and all across the western world we will be forced to watch as emboldened left wingers promote homosexuality, lesbianism, politically correct brainwashing of children, anti-family laws, more abortion, more anti-church propaganda and yet more hatred of men.

^I have little interest talking to people that support statements like that. I do not mind debating with open-minded individuals that are willing to consider view points other than their own, but your linking of this article makes me think that you are anything but.

It seems to be the way of nature. That's because men cater to beauty or attractivenss and women cater to money and/or social strata.

That is a HUGE generalisation that you seem to be stating as fact. I do NOT cater to money nor social status and i don't think i'm a minority in that, so i'd thank you not to shove me into your neat little categorisation of women.

You say "waving the flag" like its a bad thing, but there needs to be people that are willing to "wave the flag" for equal rights to combat all the idiots out there.
ZIMMY 6 | 1,601
24 Jun 2010 #315
Early studies that merely asked "have you been a victim of domestic violence" did find far lower levels of male victims; but when they asked about specific behaviors ("have you been slapped, punched,...), the numbers evened out.

Here's what you don't want to know; it is feminists who constantly publish how brutal men are and they have been the ones who counted the slaps, and light punches as women being brutalized. Their literature on this is everywhere and magazines and newspapers publish this nonsense. Many such articles miraculously appear around Father's Day.

Either come up with decent reasoning and credible sources or I definitively dismiss you in this respect.

If several hundred diverse and unrelated studies cannot convince you than nothing can.

By the way you [MareGaea]sound as a woman, weird ?!

You notice that too eh? Writes like a woman. I suspect it may be true or MareGaea is just a very effeminate man, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Instead of posting a link, you could just answer a simple question

It's just in my nature to show proof unlike some posters here who merely have their own self-congratulating opinions.

When you're discussing something in real life, are you going to link everything?

If you were having a drink and a cigar with me at the club than no. ... but the internet is full of links that we all use, isn't it?

You make it sound as if women are monstrous sometimes.

Only feminists and their pseudo fellow-travelers. Of course compared to the thousands of anti-male books, magazines, articles, special reports, etc propagated by various feminist organizations, my retorts are mere snowballs compared to their avalanche of male hate.

Zimmy thinks males are superior to females

Never said that, never would. Only a simpleton attempts to distort honest discourse to this low level.

In Zimmy's world the men (the summit of innocense and kindness) and kids sit trembling in their chairs when mom comes home,

That stuff you are smoking allows you to hallucinate doesn't it? Try writing fiction, you're a natural for that genre.

If I could ban you from posting your bs on this thread, then I would.

You prefer to live in a dictatorship don't you? I cannot tell you how many feminist apologists like you would stymie free speech. I understand how painful reality and truth are to people like you. For the record, I would not censor your opinions. Forgive me for admitting to being on a higher moral ground on this issue.

I see him use over exaggarations more often than not

If I exaggerate than so do all those professionals from the Feibert link. You really want to know about real exaggerations and lies? Just ask me and I'll link (sorry) you some feminist literature. Do you really believe that one in four women are raped? That's what they say along with lots of other nonsense.

You know, i was going to respond to this but after reading those articles i realised it was pointless to get into any sort of discussion with you.

Don't fear that which you disagree with.

Like you just did, I find that lots of women personalize a general topic. Nevertheless, it's hard to disagree with what I stated since the proof and evidence is all around us. Do you really need examples?

there needs to be people that are willing to "wave the flag" for equal rights to combat all the idiots out there.

Absolutely correct! Perhaps you could start by demanding justice for men in court during divorce proceedings, or in child custody cases, or simply demand that women be conscripted just as men are, or start a campaign demanding that women pay for their fair share on a date, or (let me know, I've got dozens of possibilities for you).
southern 75 | 7,096
24 Jun 2010 #316
Someone here wears skirts.
Lady14
24 Jun 2010 #317
Why?? Can you not cook and clean??? come to Ireland and we will show you how.
southern 75 | 7,096
24 Jun 2010 #318
Irish women not bad at all.How our southern grace to reach there.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
24 Jun 2010 #319
Can you not cook and clean???

I definitively can. Does that make me less a man? No. It makes me even more of a man.

come to Ireland

I'm already in Ireland :)

>^..^<

M-G (thinks that men should be able to cook and clean, after all they're basic capabilities everybody should be able to do)
southern 75 | 7,096
24 Jun 2010 #320
Can you not cook and clean???

This is a question for Zimmy.He will prove that men are the best cleaners and cooks ever.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
24 Jun 2010 #321
He will prove that men are the best cleaners and cooks ever.

Ask Zimmy and he will prove to you as well that men are much better in carrying and delivering babies :)

>^..^<

M-G (with men like that, who needs women?)
ZIMMY 6 | 1,601
24 Jun 2010 #322
This is a question for Zimmy.He will prove that men are the best cleaners and cooks ever.

As usual I'll step up to the plate. That's a baseball expression but this time the plate is a dish.

independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/do-men-really-make-the-best-chefs-1938708.html

From the link; "...celebrity chef John Burton Race says: "It is a fact that men are the best cooks, professional or not. Industrial kitchens may have heavy equipment, but men are the best cooks because they are more passionate and take cooking more seriously."

As to cleaning, I've known many more women who were such perfectionists that not even a hint of a mess was tolerated (with the possible exception of cat hair).
Seanus 15 | 19,706
24 Jun 2010 #323
How about when she lets out a big fart or belch? Surely that's a no-no
southern 75 | 7,096
24 Jun 2010 #324
How about when she lets out a big fart

Women never fart or fart perfume.
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
24 Jun 2010 #325
im sure u have had your fair share of fanny farts;)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
24 Jun 2010 #326
Southern southern, you know better than that! Stand closer to some women ;) ;)
southern 75 | 7,096
24 Jun 2010 #327
Are you telling it is not Chanelle?
OP Allison 5 | 118
24 Jun 2010 #328
M-G (thinks that men should be able to cook and clean, after all they're basic capabilities everybody should be able to do)

hmmm you sound like a hen pecking wife pretending to be a man.
pgtx 30 | 3,156
24 Jun 2010 #329
M-G (thinks that men should be able to cook and clean, after all they're basic capabilities everybody should be able to do)

MG, will you marry me?
:D
OP Allison 5 | 118
24 Jun 2010 #330
Me feminist? Oh pulease I just don't like to hear you bantering on about topics totally unrelated to the thread. Your in depth posts about feminism has nothing to do with first impressions on dates. I have no problem with you expressing your point of view, but if its not on topic you should make your own thread. But I am not a moderator, just saying.

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