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Poles don't know that baby seat should be in back only?


pip 10 | 1,660
24 Nov 2011 #1
seemingly intelligent people in Poland sometimes really have no clue. Baby seats are meant to be in the back only- if the airbag goes off or if there is an accident the child has a better chance.

So many people in this country put their infant car seats in the front- do people not know that the airbag could actually kill the baby?? It is not like there is no warning- there are instructions on the car seat and in the car.

I don't get it.
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
24 Nov 2011 #2
do people not know that the airbag could actually kill the baby??

Of course they know it but mums want to see baby all the time. Some people turn off passenger airbag.
Some cars don't have airbag at all because of earlier crash ;)
Olaf 6 | 956
24 Nov 2011 #3
Yes if you don't switch the airbag off first.
You can switch off the airbag in the front passenger seat for this purpose in many cars. Didn't you know that?

Secondly, if it's an infant seat then in the front you can mount it in opposite direction and this is much safer as infant's spines are too weak to endure a car crash by just being buckled - all the impact force goes then to the neck area and breaks it while opposite side allows to distribute the impact force all over the seat (or whatever it's called for the smallest ones, craddle?) and the body.

It's logical.
OP pip 10 | 1,660
24 Nov 2011 #4
ok, airbags aside- riding in the front no matter which direction is still not safe. In Canada children till the age of 1 years old need to be in the back behind the driver and facing the rear.
modafinil - | 418
24 Nov 2011 #5
Statistically the safest spot is dead centre on the rear seat. Also, under six months the front seat is recommended, with no air bag, due to choking, heat regulation etc.

I've heard of dumbasses forgetting they have a child with them and forgetting them on the back seat.
Olaf 6 | 956
24 Nov 2011 #6
Read the part of my post starting from secondly.
The front passengers seat is stathistically more dangerous than back behind the driver, but nothing will help a baby in a crash in fact. It's too fragile. The only chance sems in distributing the impact energy on the craddle and its whole body otherwse - small chances.

And as I know only in the front you have enough space to mount the craddle bacwards to the driving direction...
OP pip 10 | 1,660
24 Nov 2011 #7
Read the part of my post starting from secondly.

I read it. Infant car seats shouldn't be in the front no matter which direction they face.

but nothing will help a baby in a crash in fact. It's too fragile.

I disagree. Of all ages babies are more likely to survive.
modafinil - | 418
24 Nov 2011 #8
Infant car seats shouldn't be in the front no matter which direction they face.

You are wrong. carseat.se/are-car-seats-in-front-seat-safe/
OP pip 10 | 1,660
24 Nov 2011 #9
ok wow! now I know and only because your source is Swedish do I actually believe it!!
Olaf 6 | 956
24 Nov 2011 #10
No offence, but you can also use your head:]

Infant car seats shouldn't be in the front no matter which direction they face.

I gave logical explaination, arguments. You - nothing. Just an unjustified opinion. You thought people here are irresponsible or even stupid to do this, while it was... you not thinking and knowing that you can switch off the airbag and have contact with the baby and keep it safer (I am not saying that you're stupid here, but it was so unjustified and you were keeping to unjustified view instead of understanding e.g. my explaination). Hence my question: are you American? Because that would be nearly typical.

I disagree. Of all ages babies are more likely to survive.

It is not about agreeing, Pip. It is statistics. Have you seen some car crash tests, with children or babies dummies? Massacre. Basically the seats don't help much. Of course it is better to use them but don't think your child is very safe in a car child seat or cradle.
teflcat 5 | 1,032
24 Nov 2011 #11
Baby seat thread degenerates into national stereotyping and insults thrown. Only on PF!
cjj - | 281
24 Nov 2011 #12
PiP - you sound as if you have particular people in mind? Otherwise, how can you tell whether or not the airbag is still active?

For sure, deactivation of the airbag is essential if the baby is in the front seat -- unless a parent is content to take risks in situations where the outcome can be quite tragic indeed (internal decapitation)

As for the safest here ... or there ... debate. You don't have to get baby into the car for that -- start a conversation on sleeping positions :)

/cjj
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
24 Nov 2011 #13
Even with the air bag switched off, the baby is still safer in the back seat because of the way tthe car is engineered.
OP pip 10 | 1,660
24 Nov 2011 #14
great, now what to think?
did you read that link?
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
24 Nov 2011 #15
I've always heard that from firefighters and such. The backseat of a car is surrounded by a steel frame and it's further back from the engine so there's less a chance of crush type injuries.
Zazulka 3 | 129
24 Nov 2011 #16
Do you remember Janusz Liberkowski and his Anecia Safery Capsule? He won million bucks for his idea and for a while worked with a major car seat manufacturer on developing his project.


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