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Molly-coddling criminals in Poland's hospitals?


Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
6 Nov 2011 #1
Recently TVP INFO reported a Polish hospital director in Bydgoszcz who wanted to publish the photo of someone caught by a monitoring camera stealing children's toys meant for young patients. If he did so he would be breaking the law. Polsih supermakret owners routinely face the same problem when they want to post the photos of shoplifters caught in the act. The problem of molly-coddling criminals and prosecuting their victims is also widespread in the US. What about your country? What is your opinion of this?
isthatu2 4 | 2,704
6 Nov 2011 #2
Same in UK. Sometimes.
Its a bit more haphazard here, one minute you get a news blackout and no photos,the next pictures of kids not yet convicted of any crimes get plastered all over the media......

Its probably similar to the US situation where different Police Forces have different ideas and rules to play by, some of our forces regularly release pictures of known criminals in a name and shame vain,others will never do this.

I think one thing you may consider with regards the stealing of childrens toys; can it be proved beyond doubt that the man on CCTV actually took the toys out of the Hospital ( if it can,ie,the pics show him leaving with teddys and dump trucks spilling from his pockets ignore this...) because, lets say they give the imppresion this man stole the toys,he is then spotted on the street and gets a righteous kicking from a member of the public.............only it turns out later in court that the man simply moved the toys from one ward to another and it can be proven someone else,a nurse maybe, actually stole the toys......what then, massive lawsuit against the hospital and against everyone involved in releasing the footage.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
6 Nov 2011 #3
I agree all kinds of confused, borderline cases may occur. But there were cases of people caught red-handed eating unpaid-for food off a supermarket shelf and one shopkeeper set up a special cage outside where culpirts were kept until polcie arrived. Again the bleeding-heart do-gooders types, the equivalent of the ACLU (in the USA) and Helsinki-creeps (in Europe), raised a rumpus. In Poland I understand a person is not free to defend himself even if he catches a burglar in his home. If he tries to chuck him out of his flat, he can be accused of assault and battery.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,908
6 Nov 2011 #4
Helsinki-creeps

You do realise that the Helsinki Accords were *exceptionally* important for Poland and that they gave the country hope when they had none?

Then again, I don't expect you to understand this, being an American with no clue about Poland beyond the rantings of a deluded racist Busia.
PWEI 3 | 612
6 Nov 2011 #5
In Poland I understand a person is not free to defend himself even if he catches a burglar in his home.

You understand completely wrong. But it's not surprising that you know nothing about how Poland really is (as Delph pointed out above).
isthatu2 4 | 2,704
6 Nov 2011 #6
No idea about Poland but in the UK its proportional force. You can "defend yourself" but if "defending yourself" ends up involving chasing the burglers 500 yards down the road and then beating the living crap out of them,yes,you could be charged with assault. Other times people have "got away" with killing burglers, its pot luck,but,TBH, Id still take my chance with the legal system and do what I had to do to defend home and family.


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