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As EuroPride visits Warsaw - is it the start of overdue social change in Poland? (homosexuality promotion)


Bzibzioh
18 Jul 2010 #61
Take that bi-sexual (married to a woman) New Jersey governer who was ousted a few years back. He was actually pushing for some really good things that were detrimental to the federal reserve, which would have been good for New Jersey and the USA. So then what happens? It comes out that he is gay and out of office he goes, so his good ideas, regardless of his sexual orientation, are likewise dismissed with him. This is not uncommon.

You are confusing Governor of New York Eliot Spitzer - who liked to hire expensive prostitutes - with Jim McGreevey, former New Jersey Governor who was married and gay. Spitzer was the one who did a lot of good stuff: as attorney general prosecuted cases relating to corporate white collar crime, securities fraud, internet fraud and environmental protection. He most notably pursued cases against companies involved in computer chip price fixing, investment bank stock price inflation, predatory lending practices by mortgage lenders, fraud at American International Group and the 2003 mutual fund scandal. He also sued Richard Grasso, the former chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, claiming he had failed to fully inform the board of directors of his deferred compensation package, which exceeded $140 million. He did too much and had to be stopped.

Fek me Polish tranis are ugly!

No, the ugliest one are clearly Brits :)
POLENGGGs 2 | 150
18 Jul 2010 #62
. And apparently not everybody knows them yet as I have to repeat them over and over again and still bigots indulge themselves in their own oblivion.

Your being stupid.
First of all, people could not care less about your mumble from yesteryear, because they all full aware of it.
Second of all, no one would change for a nobody like you, youre not any elite, people only follow the elite, the elite is not gay (or atleast no one know it) , therefor - why the suprise that no1 care about a gay rights if they aint gay themself.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,648
18 Jul 2010 #63
What gay people want is for the gay lifestyle to be promoted in the general public so that more gays will come out and vote gays into office giving gays more political clout. Chances are, there are elite gays who are hiding it from everyone.
cheehaw 2 | 263
18 Jul 2010 #64
You are confusing Governor of New York Eliot Spitzer

It is possible I am confusing the two.. I am pretty sure though that the circumstances of the New Jersey governer's resignation are roughly similar.

Whenever any of them step forward with ideas to actually make forward progress that would benefit the people, especially in the monetary realm, they either get killed or scandalized out of office.

Every time, it's utterly amazing. When politicians talk about the negative effects of the federal reserve or other central banks, their life becomes hell.

As far as I know it's even a big part of why Iran will be invaded. Iran is not indebted to the european central banks and that is a big problem for the ptb. Because Iran does not have a major debt the central banks cannot influence policy there as much as they would like to. If Iran was forced into debt, then these power players could easily get their hands on Iran's natural resouces AND force the Iranian people to pay taxes which end up in the coffers of those banks and banksters via interest on that debt.
ZIMMY 6 | 1,601
18 Jul 2010 #65
He did too much and had to be stopped.

Eliot Spitzer did it to himself. His people were busting the prostitution business while he, himself paid for it. Just a bit hypocritical eh? Seems like he enjoyed inflicting discomfort (S&M) on women while having sex.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
18 Jul 2010 #66
No, the ugliest one are clearly Brits :)

I'd say on par :D But we have services like this that help, so there are a few out there that are passable..*sod teaching English in Poland Im going to open up a shop for trannis*

transformationshops.co.uk

What gay people want is for the gay lifestyle to be promoted in the general public so that more gays will come out and vote gays into office giving gays more political clout. Chances are, there are elite gays who are hiding it from everyone.

Gay people have been out and proud in the UK for years and we dont have any real "prominent" gay people in Government...So you are right, those that are in high places, generally hide it.
Bzibzioh
19 Jul 2010 #67
Eliot Spitzer did it to himself. His people were busting the prostitution business while he, himself paid for it. Just a bit hypocritical eh?

Of course it was hypocritical and that's why he is out. But still it's a shame because what he was doing in regard to prosecuting all mighty Wall Street big wigs was very good and especially unbelievable for a Democrat.

*sod teaching English in Poland Im going to open up a shop for trannis*

Well, where is a demand you'll find a supply :)
Dudeski - | 25
19 Jul 2010 #68
As EuroPride visits Warsaw- is this the start of overdue social change?

Of course.

Next year we all are going to parade with bare bottom.

Children and elders, straight and queers, black and white, and Priests and a Hasidic Jews of course, right wing and leftists.

It's going to be a hell lot of fun :-)

And you know why? Because its very modern and all those fancy western Europeans would envy us that we are in the avant garde of the European civilization LMAO

Some people should know when civilization is in regress...
Zed - | 195
19 Jul 2010 #69
Live and let live!!!
cheehaw 2 | 263
19 Jul 2010 #70
speaking of gay pride, is anyone who isn't gay proud of the fact that the gay agenda includes teaching the homosexual lifestyle to elementary school children, in graphic detail? Really, considering the fact that a homosexual couple cannot have children, it is more than just a little bit interesting that they are so focused on other people's children.

a bit off topic in this thread but here is a great article that gives some insight into the background of the banking/money issues we were discussing briefly above:

EU/IMF Revolt: Greece, Iceland, Latvia May Lead the Way by Ellen Brown

paltelegraph.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3191:euimf-revolt-greece-iceland-latvia-may-lead-the-way-by-ellen-brown&catid=43:world-economics&Itemid=160

I probably need to find a better place to post that, it's pretty relevant stuff for all of us.
convex 20 | 3,928
19 Jul 2010 #71
speaking of gay pride, is anyone who isn't gay proud of the fact that the gay agenda includes teaching the homosexual lifestyle to elementary school children, in graphic detail? Really, considering the fact that a homosexual couple cannot have children, it is more than just a little bit interesting that they are so focused on other people's children.

Where can one find this gay agenda that you're talking about? Do they create planks in their meetings?
plk123 8 | 4,138
19 Jul 2010 #72
speaking of gay pride, is anyone who isn't gay proud of the fact that the gay agenda includes teaching the homosexual lifestyle to elementary school children, in graphic detail? Really, considering the fact that a homosexual couple cannot have children, it is more than just a little bit interesting that they are so focused on other people's children.

i see you are talking out your arse again.. wtf and where tf you get this foolishness?
cheehaw 2 | 263
19 Jul 2010 #73
from real life experiences, like raising children and having to explain to them that not everyone in the world has their best interests at heart.

What about you? Did you ever raise children and actually have to deal with real life issues or do you get your information from watching South Park and the Simpsons?

wtf yourself, your arse is probably bleeding as we speak.

Where can one find this gay agenda that you're talking about? Do they create planks in their meetings?

just go to google or yahoo and type in 'teaching fisting to school children'.

you'll have a field day.
convex 20 | 3,928
19 Jul 2010 #74
from real life experiences, like raising children and having to explain to them that not everyone in the world has their best interests at heart.

No sh*t, like teaching them that if their molester priest or teacher tries to rape them, that they should go their parents!
cheehaw 2 | 263
19 Jul 2010 #75
that would be exactly right.
plk123 8 | 4,138
19 Jul 2010 #76
What about you? Did you ever raise children and actually have to deal with real life issues or do you get your information from watching South Park and the Simpsons?

you're obviously clueless and are just maing shlt up or listening to some dumbarse preacher who is keeping you in check by scaring you do death.. good luck with that..

wtf yourself,

it was a fair question to your idiotic statment

just go to google or yahoo and type in 'teaching fisting to school children'.

you'll have a field day.

i'm already having a field day with you.. haha
convex 20 | 3,928
19 Jul 2010 #77
that would be exactly right.

Just remember that the vast majority of child rape is heterosexual.
cheehaw 2 | 263
19 Jul 2010 #78
maybe we just have more stats concerning heterosexual rape.

homosexual rape is another matter, and it's victims often don't speak out until many years later, if they survive the trauma. Many commit suicide and then we learn about the sad details later from other family members who have also maintained silence out of fear of being ostracized.

look it up, many people have posted testimonies of their experiences with this stuff over the years on the net.
convex 20 | 3,928
19 Jul 2010 #79
maybe we just have more stats concerning heterosexual rape.

homosexual rape is another matter, and it's victims often don't speak out until many years later, if they survive the trauma. Many commit suicide.

Wrong, rape is traumatic for a child, regardless of if your daughter is being raped by your brother, or if he's raping your son.

I'd suggest reading up on what sexual trauma does to a child, hetero or homo rape...

Skewing the truth doesn't help protect kids...
plk123 8 | 4,138
19 Jul 2010 #80
homosexual rape is another matter, and it's victims often don't speak out until many years later, if they survive the trauma. Many commit suicide and then we learn about the sad details later from other family members who have also maintained silence out of fear of being ostracized.

look it up, many people have posted testimonies of their experiences with this stuff over the years on the net.

you're either running high fever or you're just a dolt who makes stupid stuff up.. this is beyond funny at this point.

Skewing the truth doesn't help protect kids...

but it makes bigots feels better.
cheehaw 2 | 263
19 Jul 2010 #81
I'd suggest reading up on what sexual trauma does to a child, hetero or homo rape...

I've done lots of reading already, thanks. Perhaps you need to read up on it because the issues faced by homosexuals are different.

maybe this will help:

A Mother's Letter to
Her Gay Son
Bruce David

youth-suicide.com/gay-bisexual/news/gay-suicide-mother.htm

Some of my best friends are gay, btw. You seem to want to judge me when you know so little about me.. how nice, but horribly inadequate.

This might also interest you:

The Disappearing Male
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7530701744597358451#

most important, and least publicized, issues facing the human species: the toxic threat to the male reproductive system. The last few decades have seen steady and dramatic increases in the incidence of boys and young men suffering from genital deformities, low sperm count, sperm abnormalities and testicular cancer. At the same time, boys are now far more at risk of suffering from ADHD, autism, Tourette's syndrome, cerebral palsy, and dyslexia. The Disappearing Male takes a close and disturbing look at what many doctors and researchers now suspect are responsible for many of these problems: a class of common chemicals that are ubiquitous in our world. Found in everything from shampoo, sunglasses, meat and dairy products, carpet, cosmetics and baby bottles, they are called "hormone mimicking" or "endocrine disrupting" chemicals and they may be starting to damage the most basic building blocks of human development.

Here's another one:

Environmental causes of homosexuality
viewzone2.com/phthalatesx.html
plk123 8 | 4,138
19 Jul 2010 #82
Some of my best friends are gay, btw.

that sure is a surprise as you seem to jump to some crazy conclusions.. hmm
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
19 Jul 2010 #83
Perhaps you need to read up on it because the issues faced by homosexuals are different.

and you want me to believe:

Some of my best friends are gay, btw

cheehaw 2 | 263
19 Jul 2010 #84
wow, you are vain.

Amathyst dear, I do not give a crap what you believe.
plk123 8 | 4,138
19 Jul 2010 #85
I do not give a crap what you believe.

we don't really give a crap what rolls through that empty head of yours either.. so please quit posting your nonsense here.
cheehaw 2 | 263
19 Jul 2010 #86
Harassing people all day, like you do, is not compensation for your ignorance, plk123.
convex 20 | 3,928
19 Jul 2010 #87
I thought you were worried about "the children", so I just wanted to let you know that most children are molested by the opposite sex, and family members at that. Just may want to focus on that to keep your kids safe.

I wonder what the environmental causes were 2500 years ago? Lack of testosterone?

Homosexuality seems to be a good fix for the global overpopulation problem as well.

If they want to adopt unwanted children, even better.

They usually earn more, and pay more in taxes, are less likely to have been convicted of a crime in their lifetime, and live surprisingly healthy lives.

I'm seriously having a hard time seeing the downsides here. Let 'em loose. The more the better it would seem.
MareGaea 29 | 2,751
19 Jul 2010 #88
Your being stupid.
First of all, people could not care less about your mumble from yesteryear, because they all full aware of it.
Second of all, no one would change for a nobody like you, youre not any elite, people only follow the elite, the elite is not gay (or atleast no one know it) , therefor - why the suprise that no1 care about a gay rights if they aint gay themself.

Yeah well, go fcuk yourself. Who gives a shyte what a troll like you has to say?

>^..^<

M-G (yay!)
Olaf 6 | 955
19 Jul 2010 #89
Amathyst dear, I do not give a crap what you believe.

Harassing people all day, like you do, is not compensation for your ignorance, plk123.

Yeah well, go fcuk yourself. Who gives a shyte what a troll like you has to say?

- I see this dispute has reached the common level of mutual respect and exchanging logical arguments. That's why I stopped posting anything this topic couple of days ago as everyone had already used all real arguments.
Ironside 51 | 12,458
19 Jul 2010 #90
What arguments ? Nobody contested my posts, they are only discussing their noble-self and they own sensibilities not the issue at hand.


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