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Polish vs British vs American - Clash of cultures


OP pawian 161 | 9,971
3 Oct 2012 #121
In Poland (like in most countries) it is a language spoken and learnt by the elite.

Yes, true, but 200 years ago. :):):):)

since 2004 because of Poland's joining the UE, all high officials have to learn it.

Really? :):):):):)

Hey, French guys, I looked through your posts and noticed this clash of opinions:

french is probably a lot easier to learn

French is more complicated than English since more complexed structures.

How can you explain it?

I bet you have never taken French ;).

My sister did.
I didn`t because it got on my nerves too much.
ilmc 4 | 136
3 Oct 2012 #122
oh i wasn't aware they had to learn french because of joining the eu but i suppose it makes sense. I see nothing wrong with people learning all languages i would love to be multilingual someday once i master polish (haha i doubt mastering it is something i will ever do, i haven't even mastered english and french and i grew up speaking them) i believe i will move on to italian.
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
3 Oct 2012 #123
oh i wasn't aware they had to learn french because of joining the eu but i suppose it makes sense.

Nope, it doesn`t make sense, your French interlocutor is pulling your leg, it is her specialty, to dupe newbies into tall stories about Poland. Be careful! :):):):)
ilmc 4 | 136
3 Oct 2012 #124
well it makes a bit of sense ... france is part of the eu no ... and i think she was saying government officials had to learn french not all polish people haha. however i still stand firm we should all learn as many languages as possible.
Warszawette - | 128
3 Oct 2012 #125
Pawian; don't talk about what you don't know. I happen to be a (full time) teacher and I can tell you that most of students taking French are from the upper crust (senior executives, kids from very rich families and high level officials).

As to the UE, French is necessary (commission in Brussels, parliament in Strasbourg, Brussels and Luxembourg, court of justice in Strasbourg) and whether you like it or not, I can assure you that high officials in Poland do learn French. Don't tell me it isn't true since I teach them.

Why don't you want to accept reality?
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
3 Oct 2012 #126
OK, OK, I made up my mind and I accept reality, whatever it is. :):):):)
Warszawette - | 128
3 Oct 2012 #127
Pawian, if you live in Warsaw, let's meet and I shall show you where I work ;). (I'll pay you a drink ;))

Ok, je me casse
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
3 Oct 2012 #128
and since 2004 because of Poland's joining the UE, all high officials have to learn it.

Not true. They're expected to know English and one other - and German is far more popular than French at this level.

As to the UE, French is necessary (commission in Brussels, parliament in Strasbourg, Brussels and Luxembourg, court of justice in Strasbourg) and whether you like it or not, I can assure you that high officials in Poland do learn French.

Some might, but by all accounts, French is starting to lose badly in the EU since the expansion east. English and German are winning that particular linguistic war - ask yourself, what languages do the top politicians speak? French is pretty much unheard of.

And this is coming from someone who likes and studied the French language.

French will always be relevant, but it simply isn't as important as it once was.
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
3 Oct 2012 #129
(I'll pay you a drink ;))

Sorry, I don`t drink with unfamiliar women.
ilmc 4 | 136
3 Oct 2012 #130
lol... hmmm just familiar ones then?

French is obviously not as popular as english... it just is not as widespread given the choice ofcourse someone is going to chose to learn english you can get much farther with it in the world. Personal opinion french is a nicer language it sounds romantic and musical but... english is more practical.
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
3 Oct 2012 #131
lol... hmmm just familiar ones then?

Yes, women I know and trust.

I am afraid unfamiliar females may put sth into my drink and then take advantage of me.
ilmc 4 | 136
3 Oct 2012 #132
lol careful it is always the ones you think you know and can trust that have roofies in their back pockets ;)
because us women are known for taking advantage of men lol
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
3 Oct 2012 #133
Yes, foreign women from the rotten West are known for that. Somebody told me they are veritable man-eaters.

youtube.com/watch?v=z8IO6h3gMlI

You don`t thnik I am so crazy as to allow myself to be eaten?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
3 Oct 2012 #134
I suppose it didn`t help when you started to make faces at her.....

Pawian! I have told you before not to share our private pix on PF!
ilmc 4 | 136
3 Oct 2012 #135
Yes, foreign women from the rotten West are known for that. Somebody told me they are veritable man-eaters

yes i like my men best fried and crispy with some lemon juice for flavor ... yum yum
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
3 Oct 2012 #136
Yes, and here is another clash of cultures.

Polish women may seem volatile but for sure they are more trustworthy than foreign women from US, UK, CAN who are praying mantises.
ilmc 4 | 136
4 Oct 2012 #137
devil woman from the west i am and i will eat your soul...certainly made my polish boyfriend a brain washed zombie :) lol like i possibly could.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444
4 Oct 2012 #138
Polish women may seem volatile but for sure they are more trustworthy than foreign women from US, UK, CAN who are praying mantises.

you just don't get their sense of humour Pawian, she was playful for the sake of it:D. Polish women don't have sense of humour, but they are amazing at sulking;)
ilmc 4 | 136
4 Oct 2012 #139
or was i???
he didn't actually miss it did he because if i actually just created the assumption that Canadian women like to bed foreign men to fry them up the next day in hot oil and eat them in someones mind i might actually have a good laugh about this for atleast a week :) Frying is fattening anyway baked would clearly be the healthier way to go. But Mike has survived a couple years so far lucky lucky guy.
jon357 63 | 14,255
4 Oct 2012 #140
it was a time when they spoke French in Britain

No. There was a time when a tiny section of the population used French, and even they stopped usiing it within the space of a few generations.

Simply speaking, the language never caught on.
Kirchmayr - | 4
4 Oct 2012 #141
English is a mixture of Germanic language and of Latin via French and that's why there are numerous (around 40%) English words coming from French and it was a time when they spoke French in Britain.

quite agree the industrial Germany has excellent english as a second language, it is also taught in Austria from a young age. I prefer the French language to German but the fact is French is no longer the language of diplomats and royalty (particularly the French royalty) but the French people seem to have a chip on their shoulder about it. in Germany some board meetings are carried out in english because it takes less words to but a point across.

However the fact that English via King James Bible is a mix of languages is i think a difficult language to learn as there doesn't seem to be any logic

for example

house - houses
mouse - mice
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
4 Oct 2012 #142
you just don't get their sense of humour Pawian, she was playful for the sake of it:

It`s ok. :):):):)

Pawian! I have told you before not to share our private pix on PF!

Sorry, I couldn`t resist that one more time.

Clashes based on Trainspotting,

1.

At 0:23 a secondary school female student invites a stranger home and has sex with him, with parents on house. Fairly impossible here.
TommyG 1 | 361
10 Oct 2012 #143
Impossible? Tak myslisz? Nie. Chyba zartujesz:) Improbable maybe, but not impossible...
Remember, Pawian, it's just a film. A complete work of fiction, nothing like this ever really happens in the UK..... Although, it is set in Scotland...
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
10 Oct 2012 #144
Impossible? Tak myslisz? Nie. Chyba zartujesz:) Improbable maybe, but not impossible...

Whatever... :):):)

Remember, Pawian, it's just a film. A complete work of fiction, nothing like this ever really happens in the UK..... Although, it is set in Scotland...

Oh, I see.

So the scene when the cabbie first takes a dead stoned guy to hospital and only then collects the due fare from the guy`s pocket is also fiction? I thought of it as another clash.....

From 0:45:25 to 0:46:35

Yes, I had a hunch it was utter fiction. Thanks!!
TommyG 1 | 361
10 Oct 2012 #145
So the scene when the cabbie first takes a dead stoned guy to hospital and only then collects the due fare from the guy`s pocket is also fiction? I thought of it as another clash.....

Yes, I see your point Pawian. Can I ask you if you have ever seen the film 'Dzień Świra'?
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
10 Oct 2012 #146
Of course. Why? The plot is pure fiction? Education freaks like Adam M. don`t really exist?

Yep, almost.

Socializing:

Poles prefer to stay at home with close family or friends, be it a party or just informal visit.

Socializing Poland

while Brits hang out in pubs

Ams and Brits prefer to buy a frozen dish for microwave

Frozen

or go to a bar/restaurant for a meal, even breakfast (!!!),

while Poles still prefer the traditional cooking at home.

What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods?
pam
14 Oct 2012 #147
Ams and Brits prefer to buy a frozen dish for microwave

Some Brits might Pawian, but we're not all lazy! I prefer to cook proper food thanks very much!
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
14 Oct 2012 #148
Me too. Most of my English girlfriends cooked pretty well. The least likely to cook was an ex from Bydgoszcz, so let's put an end to the lazy generalisations. There are loads of great British chefs, whereas Poland has a half-French guy (iirc) and Magda Gessler, lol :)
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
14 Oct 2012 #149
Some Brits might Pawian, but we're not all lazy! I prefer to cook proper food thanks very much!

Good.
Yet, the frozen food culture is much more popular there than here.

cartoonstock.com/directory/f/frozen_food.asp

How long will we last? :):):)

There are loads of great British chefs

Yes, I know, they cook excellent pudding with mint sauce.....

Most of my English girlfriends cooked pretty well.

You mean microwave dishes, of course. :):):):):)

Come on, Polak, we are talking about real stuff, not dog food........ :):):):):)

dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-1382709/One-British-women-struggle-cook-basic-dishes.html
One in six British women struggles to crack the art of cooking, a survey revealed today.
More than half said their husband is a better cook.
The poll of 2,000 men and women commissioned by the Good Food channel found that the typical female can cook only seven dishes from scratch.
More than one in five women struggles with a basic curry, one in six cannot bake a cake and one in ten has never cooked a roast.

One in 20 even messes up boiling an egg or preparing a cooked breakfast.


Comments to the article:
" .... the Good Food channel found that the typical female can cook only seven dishes from scratch." My wife's cuisine can't be bettered. Yummy! I weighed 9 stones when we married six months ago, and now I'm a more manly 18 stones. You can't beat modern home cooking. Here are her seven favourite dishes. Dish 1: Microwaved chicken korma and rice from the supermarket. Dish 2: Oven heated quiche lorraine and oven heatedroast potatoes from the supermarket. Dish 3: Scrambled eggs and oven heated chips. Dish 4: Beans on toast and oven heated chips. Dish 5: Supermarket pizza from the supermarket.

PS. Stop boasting of having all English girls! It is pathetic! :):):):)
pam
15 Oct 2012 #150
But Pawian, you shouldn't believe everything you read! This is the Daily Fail after all.................:):):):)

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