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Granting Polish citizenship by the President (for money)



unuser_lol    
20 Apr 2017  #1

Hello, I would like to know if it possible to ask for polish passport by giving some amount of money (like 200,000 złoty or 150,000) to the polish stock exchange.

From what I have been understood, its not enough just to have documents which proves you are a decent polish, the polish government wants a good reason to give a polish passport.

So, if you contribute to polish stock exchange and economics, would you think it will be possible for that reason to get a polish passport?

Of course as long as I can prove I am polish (with documents) by my grandfather who was living in warszawa.

Btw, I study polish language, and I know some basic polish.


DominicB - | 1,822    
20 Apr 2017  #2

Hello, I would like to know if it possible to ask for polish passport by giving some amount of money (like 200,000 złoty or 150,000) to the polish stock exchange.

No. And the amount of money you mention is not going to impress anyone. It's small change.
WhirlwindTobias - | 73    
20 Apr 2017  #3

You'd have more chance finding a wife amongst 200,000zl worth of professional women.
OP unuser_lol    
20 Apr 2017  #4

Honestly, chances donald tusk will give me polish passport is much HIGHER than some polish girl will marry me. Haha.
cms 9 | 843    
20 Apr 2017  #5

You can try Hungary to get EU citizenship. they have the citizenship by investment with a low threshold - 75k euro. In Poland you could have 75 millions and it would not be enough.
OP unuser_lol    
20 Apr 2017  #6

Thanks! It will be great solution for me. I would like to have more information about it.
Atch 8 | 1,407    
20 Apr 2017  #7

It's gone up. It now costs 300,000 euros plus 50-60,000 in fees. Basically you're buying government bonds. You get residency after six months and you get the citizenship after five years and they return your money. I found that out in less than a minute. Try some googling.
DominicB - | 1,822    
20 Apr 2017  #8

Hungary citizenship by investment with a low threshold - 75k euro.

Last time I checked it was 300,000 Euro with an additional non-refundable 50,000 Euro fee. My guess is that the investment requirement has gone up, and the 75,000 Euro figure you mention is the current non-refundable fee.
DominicB - | 1,822    
20 Apr 2017  #9

@Atch

Actually, the program was discontinued three weeks ago. "Important Notice: Hungarian Residency Bond Program will close on March 31, 2017."

So that option is no longer open.

second-citizenship.org/permanent-residence/hungary
Atch 8 | 1,407    
20 Apr 2017  #10

That's good. There's something decidedly unsavoury about allowing people to 'buy' citizenship.
delphiandomine 57 | 15,334    
20 Apr 2017  #11

Malta was/is doing it as well. I forget the numbers, but it was over half a million Euro.
cms 9 | 843    
20 Apr 2017  #12

Sorry for the duff info - source was a bloke I once sat next to on a plane and I never bothered to check that.

Might be distasteful but I can see the pragmatic benefits - there are only a very limited number of people who can afford it, they will contribute to the tax base, often do a bit of philanthropy and since they are mostly either clever or hard working then will add to the gene pool. Of course the risk is that crooks can use this as a way to avoid Russian or Chinese justice but they would find some way to corrupt the process anyway.
DominicB - | 1,822    
21 Apr 2017  #13

@cms

That was an option for the obscenely rich anyway. You had to buy 300,000 Euros in government bonds and hold them for five years, at the end of which you got your 300,000 Euros back without interest. The lost interest and the 50,000 Euro fee were a steep price to pay that wouldn't be attractive for all but the fabulously wealthy or, as you have pointed out, desperate criminals on the run with money to launder. I suspect that most of the people who took up that offer were of the latter variety. And I'm pretty sure that the program was discontinued for precisely the reason that these individuals carried on with organized criminal activity in Hungary.
Atch 8 | 1,407    
21 Apr 2017  #14

Ironically Hungary was one of those countries who vehemently opposed refugee quotas a couple of years ago (though of course they backed down on that when it came to the vote) and yet they were quite happy to sell you a passport for the right fee. If you're familiar with the British broadcaster Stephen Fry, his grandfather was a Hungarian Jew and apparently he said that a Hungarian is the only man who can enter a revolving door behind you and come out in front of you :D
delphiandomine 57 | 15,334    
22 Apr 2017  #15

and yet they were quite happy to sell you a passport for the right fee.

It's not much of a secret that the whole thing was aimed to give dodgy Russians an easy way into the EU.

And I'm pretty sure that the program was discontinued for precisely the reason that these individuals carried on with organized criminal activity in Hungary.

Knowing Fidesz, it might be that the programme achieved its aims (passports for dodgy Russians connected to Fidesz) and so could be safely closed.



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