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Acquiring Polish citizenship by naturalisation


ryoh
18 Sep 2012 #1
Hello, everyone!

I've read on the Polish nationality law page on Wiki, that from August 15th the new law allows any foreigner to obtain Polish citizenship.

Does any one know anything more detail about this law?
Has anybody tried to apply for it?

Please read the article under "Citizenship by naturalisation"(by typing "tt" instead of ** on the URL):
h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_nationality_law

Ryo
ivnp71 1 | 46
26 Sep 2012 #2
Hi!!
I'm going to apply for polish citizenship.I'm married to a national polish for 6 years and i'd like to be a polish.

Polish citizenship by the president od Poland....my question is how long it will takes with the new law?
thanks a lot!!!!!!!!
WielkiPolak 58 | 1,034
26 Sep 2012 #3
i'd like to be a polish.

I'm afraid unless you have got a Polish person somewhere in your ancestry that is not a logical possibility, but you can pretend to be by getting citizenship, or at least get the right to vote and stuff.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
26 Sep 2012 #4
Course it is. Would you really say that someone like this - sejm.gov.pl/sejm7.nsf/posel.xsp?id=255 - isn't Polish? He's been here for over 30 years, he speaks Polish perfectly, he is absolutely totally integrated into society, he's married, 3 kids, got elected into the Sejm - the guy is Polish. :)

Nice chap as well, from what I hear.

(but I think - to be Polish, you have to be absolutely totally integrated in society)
WielkiPolak 58 | 1,034
27 Sep 2012 #6
Exactly he's not Polish. He can live there and be integrated and well liked but he's not Polish. Poland is not Britain or the USA where you can have pretty much any ethnicity and be considered an American. I could go live in the USA for many years and integrate, I will never really be American, even if I marry an American girl and have children there.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
27 Sep 2012 #7
He certainly is considered to be Polish by his constituents and the Government.

Why wouldn't you want to claim a success story (and by all accounts, a good family man) as being Polish - especially as the concept of Polish blood is somewhat vague and fuzzy anyway?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
27 Sep 2012 #8
Nice chap as well, from what I hear.

Heres the thing. The vast majority of the seven billion peeps on this globe are decent people. But as I cannot "become" Polish/Chinese/Nigerian, the same rings true for them. The mental gymnastics people jump through to pretend that an African is anything other than an African is highly amusing. Alas, an African will always be an African.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, either.
ivnp71 1 | 46
24 Oct 2012 #9
i sent to the dolnoslaski urzad wojwodzki in Wroclaw my application for polish citizenship through the president of poland this morning.Now, i have to wait for the last decision.Hope to get lucky!! I also hope that it don't takes a long, long time to get it after that the polish citizenship act came into force on august 15th, 2012.

Best whises!!!!!!!!!

Anyone else who is going to apply for polish citizenship through the President of Poland?
MoOli 9 | 484
28 Oct 2012 #10
ivnp71
I applied through voivoda and got the decision in 60 days but one has to apply to presidents office if its after 6 months of obtaining permanent residence,A friend of mine has been waiting for that mistake for almost 18 months now and they say can take 2 to 3 years.But if its not late for you ie over 6 months of your obtaining permanent residence then appy to your goverenor(voivoda) and they have to by law issue you a decision in 61 days.Now what happened with the new law in august I cant advice you on that.Anyway good luck!
ivnp71 1 | 46
28 Oct 2012 #11
To apply through the president of Poland one don't need to have permanent residence.I have the 5 years blue flimsy paper for ue citizens.Not even u have to live in Poland according to the new polish citizenship law.To apply through the president of Poland is totally diferent to apply through the wojewoda or governor of province.
oxon 4 | 164
28 Oct 2012 #12
Alas, an African will always be an African.

It was Malcolm X who once said 'just because an African is born in America does not make him an American. As long as we are still in this gigantic hoax called the EU, one should be wary of Poland letting in Africans en masse. Polish women will gladly marry them for a few zloty so they can have citizenship in any other EU country.
ivnp71 1 | 46
28 Oct 2012 #13
For this reason, i'd like to know if anyone here recently applied for polish citizenship through the president of Poland and how it is going the process.
RubasznyRumcajs 5 | 485
28 Oct 2012 #14
hah, i knew that someone would throw Polish women "marrying African /en masse/ for money" craptalk.
And yes- being a Pole or not- the most important thing is a "cultural" selfidentification, not genetic.
And I see nothing wrong with letting Africans (or others) to Poland- as long as they can contribute into society (positively), than it's nothing wrong with it.

Good luck ivnp71!
oxon 4 | 164
28 Oct 2012 #15
And I see nothing wrong with letting Africans (or others) to Poland-

Spoken like a person who has never had their life blighted by mass immigration. Lots of people initially in favour of letting in Poles and other Eastern Europeans to the UK said some similar things. Lots have now changed their minds because they have taken out more than they have put in.
ivnp71 1 | 46
30 Oct 2012 #16
I only can say if i got the polish citizenship i would be very proud of it.
I'm spanish from The Canary Islands but i take Poland in my heart.
RubasznyRumcajs 5 | 485
30 Oct 2012 #17
So he was an ethnic Pole

there is no thing like "ethnic Pole"

Spoken like a person who has never had their life blighted by mass immigration. Lots of people initially in favour of letting in Poles and other Eastern Europeans to the UK said some similar things. Lots have now changed their minds because they have taken out more than they have put in.

well- even now Ukrainians are "taking Polish jobs" in the low waged field work (someone has to pick apples or dig up kartofle)

and as I wrote- as long as immigrant are not committing crimes and are working, i can hardly see anything against it.
and, unlike in UK, in Poland you have to work to be able to get benefits. Good!
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
31 Oct 2012 #18
there is no thing like "ethnic Pole"

The Polish people, or Poles, are a nation and a West Slavic ethnic group native to Central Europe, inhabiting mostly Poland, other European countries and North America.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles
ivnp71 1 | 46
25 Apr 2013 #19
My application for polish citizenship has already been sent to the ministry of the interior from the dolnoslaski urzad wojewodzki.I got a letter from there to home.

The ministry of the interior sends it to the President's office after analyzing the application and to approve it.
My question is, with the new polish citizenship law (the Nationality law act of 2 April 2009) that came into force last year,on August 15,2012 is it possible to shorten the time to get polish citizenship? in any case,how long it takes to get it?

i applied for polish citizenship through the president.
thanks a lot!!
bairo
28 Apr 2013 #20
well i think you will surely get your decision from the president anytime from now cos the interior minister already cleared an approve your application.

when do you made your application to the president? thanks
ivnp71 1 | 46
1 May 2013 #21
I submit my application to the dolnoslaski urzad wojewodzki on december 14, 2012.
bairo
17 May 2013 #22
i wish u very of best of luck.. And ur decision may not be long now, maybe 1-2 months time u will hear from them. thanks

ivnp71
when you made your application in the regional office at wroclaw, do u specifically ask them how long your decison may take at the president office? if urzad didnt knw how long will take, contanct the president office an ask about the status of ur application an may also ask how long u have to wait. im sure you will know something by asking urzad or contact president office. good luck
aangel56443
3 Jun 2013 #23
My application for polish citizenship has already been sent to the ministry of the interior from the dolnoslaski urzad wojewodzki.I got a letter from there to home.

The ministry of the interior sends it to the President's office after analyzing the application and to approve it.
My question is, with the new polish citizenship law (the Nationality law act of 2 April 2009) that came into force last year,on August 15,2012 is it possible to shorten the time to get polish citizenship? in any case,how long it takes to get it?

i applied for polish citizenship through the president.
thanks a lot!!
bairo
30 Jul 2013 #24
hello aangel whats the latest update about your polish citizenship application to the president. do u hear anything or still waiting. thanks
ivnp71 1 | 46
27 Aug 2013 #25
Hi Bairo!!!
Last june 27,2013 I got a letter from the ministry of the interior.I was told that they sent my application to the chancellery of the president so i must wait for the final decision.

I'm going to phone to the chancellery of the president next week for any further news.

Anyone who's lately got polish citizenship through the president here?
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
2 Sep 2013 #26
Unless you've got an outstanding reason, you won't get citizenship through the President if you're applying directly to the President.

If you're applying through the process of residency, then you won't get it in your case - you need to have permanent residency, it's not enough to have the temporary EU residence certificate. If you aren't resident in Poland, you haven't got a chance - they are very very thorough with checking your personal life.
ivnp71 1 | 46
29 Sep 2013 #27
Last wednesday,september 25 2013, I received negative decision by the president of Poland about my application for polish citizenship so I'm very sad about it:(( I have to say, I' m going to apply for polish citizenship again and I hope to get it in my second try, I hope so!!

My question is....What are the chances to get it? I know it depends on the president and I know the president hasn't got to justify his decision so I just want to know your advices.

By the way, the time procedure for the president's decision was 9 months from december 14 2012 to september 25 2013.
Thanks a lot!!!
Kocham polskÄ™!!!!!
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
29 Sep 2013 #28
I received negative decision by the president of Poland about my application for polish citizenship so I'm very sad about it:(( I have to say, I' m going to apply for polish citizenship again and I hope to get it in my second try, I hope so!!

But what criteria are you applying under?

My question is....What are the chances to get it? I know it depends on the president and I know the president hasn't got to justify his decision so I just want to know your advices.

In 99.9% of cases, it doesn't depend on the President. What you need to understand is that by applying directly to the President, you're applying for citizenship under extraordinary circumstances - and I very much doubt that you have extraordinary circumstances.

As far as I can see, you simply haven't met the criteria for citizenship.
ivnp71 1 | 46
29 Sep 2013 #29
Not need any requirements when applying by the president delphi.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
29 Sep 2013 #30
See, this is where you need to understand the system.

The Presidential route to citizenship is for those exceptional people who Poland wants to have as citizens. For instance, a world class football player who plays in Poland and who wants to play for the national team can apply under this procedure, or perhaps an incredibly talented musician who fled persecution in his home country.

It isn't for mere mortals - for us, we have a clearly defined path to citizenship that must be followed. In your case (applying on the basis of being married to a Polish citizen) - you need to follow the same rules as everyone else - 2 years permanent residency combined with a certificate confirming that you obtained a pass in one of the State exams in the Polish language.

In your case, rejection was almost certain. Did you submit any documentation confirming why you are an exceptional resident of Poland that needs citizenship?


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