When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed?

'Please' is not an argument in history. Tell me of the intervening Polish army, then I might reconsider.

Man, excuse me...as I'm the only one bringing facts and history to the table here anyhow.


Most people know that there was a difference between upper Silesia with a polish majority and lower Silesia with a clear german majority.

Most Poles even today deny any german majority at all...;)

So how many Polish regular units were fighting there?


You know you are being nasty now...


Pphulease, BB... Nobody sane in Poland claims that Lvovians are indigenous to Wroclaw :)

I'm just answering in kind!

And actually I tire of these talks...since I became a member of PF these topics arise again and again and again. And all links were already posted at least once and all possible arguments exchanged at least twice...how about using the PF search function for once?

Nothing new happened during the last years, seriously! ;)

Again you don`t know Polish history enough. After the war, thanks to powerful and influential communist governors, Silesia was one of the most heavily developed areas in Poland. Do you know that the local communist, Edward Gierek, even ruled as the First Secretary for 10 years? (sth like President) In 1970s and 1980s Silesia received huge investment and dotations and miners lived much better-off than the rest of society. Today, retired miners` pensions are higher than others`.

I hope you receive this lesson with understanding and will bear ii in mind for future reference.

I hope it will flourish again in the future and becoming silesian in character again as it once was, so that future generations can close this dark chapter once and for all....

Pawian has a point here, BB. Gierek wasn't the best of leaders but he improved the standard of living for many miners. Check the wealth ratings for voivoidships and regions back then and you will see.

I swear to God. B Boy.... I will place you in command of polish freedom fighters as soon as you agree, then I will finance an armored division and order you to win Lwów for us. :-). You enlist others, they may speak german, silesian or whatever :-)

Hey hey, he wasn't a Silesian. Not even born in Silesia, and not ever living in Silesia. He was from Jastrzębie, which is Czerwone Zagłębie, which is Aldrajch, not Silesia. Gorol z goroli, and mostly living in Belgium anyway.

I have no idea about that...I only know about the millions of Silesians leaving for Germany...didn't look like a nice place to be...but I can be wrong though.


Only when I get a helmet!!!

And you, the Black Knight, are still fighting for the German cause in a Polish forum.

Do you expect to get a medal for it? :):):):)

Well...I hope I could enlighten some Poles during my time here! :)

(Some of you are really filled with nationalistic crap...but I blame the education)

Not everyone is cut out to be a miner, BB ;) There's your answer :)

All this talk of history is nice. But the seed for Silesia has always been there locked behind wall. But now the wall is gone and slowly the idea is growing stronger. It's only a matter of time.

But...there are not many real Silesians left, aren't there? :(

Geez, BB, are you being serious? the key word is Western. Western Germany. As opposed to Eastern Germany and PRL. People who didn't even speak German, and their only chance to get the citizenship was a grandpa in Wehrmacht.

Yeah...

I always wondered how many Germans where still left even after the purges of millions after the war...hmmm....with Wehrmachtsgrandpa I mean...

Quite a lot... They even claim their dialect is a language.

Sosnowiec.


Yes. I am sorry, these areas are so close to each other...... Neighbours! :):):):)

Sosnowiec is No 16, Katowice, pure Silesia, is 14.

Really few. I remember meeting an old granny in the 70ies, speaking with broken Polish, but mostly with hardly intelligible German. She just stayed there, in Gliwice, she wouldn't have gone this was her place. Her family left, she stayed alone. She remembered the '3 days of freedom'...

edit:


He was the 1st Secretary in Sosnowiec. Origins from Jastrzębie.


Don't you fcking remind me...
:)

Born in Porąbka, today a district of Sosnowiec, was secretary in Katowice.

But it doesn`t matter, really. What matters is he was from Czerwone Zagłebie which isn`t Silesia.

But, later on, he ruled Silesia and developed it.

Silesians need a separate passport to get to Sosnowiec, pawian. It is not Silesia ;) ;)

Is there some joke I'm missing? :)


What's about it?

Yes, BB. Many from Upper Silesia say that they need a passport to travel to Sosnowiec. People from there are 'particular' ;)

Ah ja...

;)

I might've mixed up something, but for me he was always strongly associated with Jastrzębie for some personal (his) reason.


Hm, Silesia under Gomulka was already quite developed. The Soviets needed steel. After Gierek went to Warsaw, he introduced more miner's privileges, but people preferred the memory of Ziętek.


Just some of our intra-Polish bickering, nothing to you, dojcze... :)

Geez, midnight. Good night.

My answer on your question is "I think that never".
I haven't robbed any German lands in spite of I am Polish.

We will, once Germany gives Poland back every single item they stole during the war and occupation, and when they give back the lives of those killed during the war and in the concentration camps. Oh, and when we get our stolen eastern cities back.

Not possible? Oh well, I guess we will just keep them than.

I said before that Poland needs nuclear weapons or Germans will demand so called their land back that they stole from Poland in first place

It’s in all Germans blood to start conflicts and wars .

Germans! Cry!

youtube.com/watch?v=uJRrlG7jP88
while Germans cry, Serbs would dance... as they dance here