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Why is there NOTHING (besides Gdansk and Szczecin) in former Prussia?


Ksysia 25 | 430
4 Jan 2011 #1
What is there anyway? Two cities, Gdansk and Szczecin. Lots of nothing spotted with tiny little townships...

My friend from Krakow moved to Gdynia for a couple of years and now she's back. She reports that outside of city limits there wasn't much anyhow. And no roads neither.

That casts some light on the great things the Prussians have built in Poland while 'civillising' the land, eh? A mott and a bailey, constructed with bricks from torn down houses of the locals...

I'm sure you all heard about the reisen, Marienburg, keeping the commoners in stark poverty, and generally acting all flashy. But it's not so easy to reach the conclusion that indeed the Prussian rule had hurt those lands - because everyone is so impressed with Mercedes, they think everywhere German went, they immediately washed their feet.

Not in Prussia - in Prussia they lived in a form of a siege.

IMHO.
southern 75 | 7,096
4 Jan 2011 #2
She reports that outside of city limits there wasn't much anyhow

Maybe some red army activity?
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
4 Jan 2011 #3
Lots of nothing spotted with tiny little townships...

It's because Prussia's much ado about nothing.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,432
4 Jan 2011 #4
What do you expect after 65 years of non-prussianess and expellation of all Prussians and total destruction and re-population by non-prussian eastern Poles.

Really..
Torq
5 Jan 2011 #6
Two cities, Gdansk and Szczecin.

What about Gdynia, Słupsk, Koszalin, Sopot? What about great holiday resorts:
Ustka, Kołobrzeg, Świnoujście or £eba? Pomorze and Pomorze Zachodnie are doing
fine, thank you. Maybe life here is slower than in Warsaw or Kraków, but life is good :)

by non-prussian eastern Poles

And some Górals, he he :-)

Anyway - the Polish settlers that arrived to Pomorze, Ziemia Lubuska and Dolny Śląsk,
after these ancient, Piast Polish lands came back to Poland, were not only from the east,
but in fact from every Polish province. When you ask people in Słupsk or Ustka about
their roots, they come from every possible corner of Poland (sure, we have some Kashubs,
more to the east, south-east from Słupsk, but generally the area is 100% genuine Polish:
Poland doesn't schafft sich ab :))
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
5 Jan 2011 #7
Why is there NOTHING in former Prussia?

I wouldn't say nothing....


  • Malbork

  • Olsztyn

  • Miss Warmia Maruzy
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
5 Jan 2011 #8
It's very beautiful so why ruin it with cities ;)
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,432
5 Jan 2011 #9
BB really...

What!

;)

but generally the area is 100% genuine Polish

Yeah...NOW!
guesswho 4 | 1,289
5 Jan 2011 #10
Why is there NOTHING in former Prussia?

I wouldn't say nothing, the most beautiful town in Poland (my point of view) Danzig or Gdansk is there.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,432
5 Jan 2011 #11
And I've heard from a now there living ex-eastern Pole in my aquaintance (Sok) that the old prussian town of my grandparents, Breslau, is rebuild in it's old glory...

So it can't be that bad!

Breslau today 1

It's nice, isn't it?

Breslau 2
guesswho 4 | 1,289
5 Jan 2011 #12
It's nice, isn't it?

Danzig and Breslau the most beautiful towns in Poland.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,432
5 Jan 2011 #13
Yeah...I like what I see :)

I really wonder about this friend of Kysia...:(

Would I need to learn polish if I would plan to retire to Breslau when I'm old??? Hmmmm....
Marek11111 9 | 816
5 Jan 2011 #14
GW:
Danzig and Breslau the most beautiful towns in Poland.

We do not have such towns in Poland
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,432
5 Jan 2011 #15
Sure you have!!! ;)

wroclaw-life.com/wroclaw/breslau

breslau.org

polish-online.com/polen/staedte/breslau.php
Marynka11 4 | 675
5 Jan 2011 #16
I really wonder about this friend of Kysia...:(

I'm wondering if maybe the friend of the OP was taking about the former East Prussia? (Ostpreußen?)
Marynka11 4 | 675
5 Jan 2011 #18
Even under the rule of Prussians it was just farmland mainly. So not much has changed.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
5 Jan 2011 #19
Not in Prussia - in Prussia they lived in a form of a siege.

IMHO.

Loads of German heritage all over, roads pretty good too (for Poland), the closer to Kaliningrad the worse it gets but its mainly because the Russians had this habit of nuking everything built by Germans, sometimes it was rebuildable, sometimes it was not.

In a second im going to dig up pics of Breslau immidietaly after conquest by the Red Army and Wrocław now.

The place was totally nuked.

Even under the rule of Prussians it was just farmland mainly. So not much has changed.

Rubbish.
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
5 Jan 2011 #20
Danzig and Breslau the most beautiful towns in Poland.

We sure share the same taste in architecture.


Sokrates 8 | 3,346
5 Jan 2011 #21
They're completely different, Wrocław is a typically german twist on various worldwide trends while Gdańsk is built mainly to Low Countries (especially Dutch) schools, both polish and german citizens commisioned mainly Dutch and sometimes Italian architects to work in Gdańsk.
Ironside 50 | 10,910
5 Jan 2011 #22
Breslau, is rebuild in it's old glory...

Most of towns and cites in former Prussia were rebuild by Poles !
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
5 Jan 2011 #23
Living in a ruin sucks no?
Marynka11 4 | 675
5 Jan 2011 #24
Rubbish.

Jesus Chrrist, I need to quote Wikipedia because someone did not pay attention in their history class. Here:
Obszar Prus Wschodnich pokrywały w większości tereny rolnicze (pola uprawne 51%, łąki i pastwiska 23%), ze stosunkowo niewielkim udziałem obszarów leśnych (18%, wobec średniej dla całych Prus 23%)[1].
Ironside 50 | 10,910
5 Jan 2011 #25
Living in a ruin sucks no?

Could have build in soc-realism like in Warsaw's center !
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
5 Jan 2011 #26
In Warsaw commies wanted to make a point, in Wrocław polish architects were free to rebuild to the pre-war standard, that wasnt always possible but where it was it got done, stand by for pictures.

Jesus Chrrist, I need to quote Wikipedia

No you need to flash boobs if you're hot, i'm just gonna contradict you for sport anyway.
guesswho 4 | 1,289
5 Jan 2011 #27
They're completely different, Wrocław is a typically german twist on various worldwide trends while Gdańsk is built mainly to Low Countries (especially Dutch) schools, both polish and german citizens commisioned mainly Dutch and sometimes Italian architects to work in Gdańsk.

True, they're different but still, both very pretty.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
5 Jan 2011 #28
Lets see if daddy can upload some pics of Wrocław.

1945:

Wrocław downtown

2010:

Wrocław downtown today

How do i glue in images rather then links?
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,432
5 Jan 2011 #30
Use the above helpers when you post, that for images is left from the youtube thingie on the right...


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