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A little reminder for those Brits that ***** about Poles


Trevek 26 | 1,702
12 Mar 2012 #91
They believed we entered the war for that reason. Anyway, what about "For your freedom and ours"?
milky 13 | 1,657
12 Mar 2012 #92
As compared to the English who stayed at home over the past 800 years? I

Wish the did,from an Irish perspective.
youtube.com/watch?v=-AYUMEXVFWM
Vieslava - | 23
12 Mar 2012 #93
30 airmen???

By March 1944, the Polish armed forces in the west fighting under British command numbered 195,000, 165,000 at the end of that year, including about 20,000 personnel in the Polish Air Force and 3,000 in the Polish Navy. At the end of World War II, they were 195,000 strong, and by July 1945 had increased to 228,000, most of the newcomers being released prisoners-of-war and ex-labor-camp inmates.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces_in_the_West
Ironside 51 | 11,339
12 Mar 2012 #94
They believed we entered the war for that reason

Yea! thats what you were told.
Marek11111 9 | 816
12 Mar 2012 #95
Trevek:
How many thousands of British and Empire troops died attempting to honour a treaty with Poland?

zero died for Poland they died to keep English empire hold on to their colonies and to keep that German family dominating the world a British royal family I am referring to.
Harry
12 Mar 2012 #96
30 airmen???

30 Polish airmen died during the entire BoB.
Ironside 51 | 11,339
12 Mar 2012 #97
zero died for Poland they died to keep English empire hold on to their colonies and to keep that German family dominating the world a British royal family I am referring to.

I wasn't encouraging you !stop that wisdom fountain of yours, you are making yourself look foolish !
Marek11111 9 | 816
12 Mar 2012 #98
30 Polish airmen died during the entire BoB.

that just means Poles ware superior fighters then everyone, just cut your loses Harry you know you are wrong but you have different agenda do you Harry, tell us about it.
Trevek 26 | 1,702
12 Mar 2012 #99
zero died for Poland they died to keep English empire hold on to their colonies

and how many colonies did Britain have in Europe at that time (not including the 6 Counties!). If Britain hadn't entered the war on Poland's behalf, is there any evidence that germany would have taken their colonies? there was more threat from Japan on that score.
andrew jab - | 33
12 Mar 2012 #100
30 Polish airmen died during the entire BoB.

And?
What about Arnhem?
What about Monte cassino?
ETC ETC ETC.
Your agenda is as tranparent as it is boring.
Now run along to an Irish forum and start sprouting the famine never happened or it was never authorized,LOL.
Trevek 26 | 1,702
12 Mar 2012 #101
Yea! thats what you were told.

Shucks, you'll be telling me Saddam had no WMD's next!
Marek11111 9 | 816
12 Mar 2012 #102
I wasn't encouraging you !stop that wisdom fountain of yours, you are making yourself look foolish !

look it up Iron what was the name of royal family before Windsor
Trevek 26 | 1,702
12 Mar 2012 #103
And Bonnie Prince Charlie was the great-great grandson of jan Sobieski 3rd... so does that mean Poland invaded Britain to fight the Germans?
Vieslava - | 23
12 Mar 2012 #104
Here is why the Brits murdered general Sikorski:

" By the spring of 1943, Sikorski had been raising the issue of POSTWAR BORDERS with the Soviet Union and had travelled to the USA to lobby support from President Roosevelt.

In April, he had lunched with Churchill in Downing Street, where he brought up the alleged massacre by the Russians of 10,000 Polish officers in the forests of Katyn, near Smolensk in the USSR. Churchill urged caution since the alliance between Stalin and the West was fragile.

Undeterred, Sikorski, without consulting the British Government, called publicly for the International Red Cross to investigate the massacres. A furious Stalin promptly broke off diplomatic relations with the Polish government in exile. His anger was conveyed to Churchill at Chartwell in Kent [in fact at Chequers] by an agitated Maisky -- the man whose plane touched down a few weeks later alongside Sikorski's in Gibraltar."

fpp.co.uk/History/Sikorski/Times040703.html
Harry
12 Mar 2012 #105
Here is why the Brits murdered general Sikorski:

Always a good laugh to see people offering holocaust denial websites as proof of anything!
Trevek 26 | 1,702
12 Mar 2012 #106
So, Britain is getting their arse kicked across Germany, North Africa and Asia, and they are to be blamed for not wanting to upset their most powerful ally in Europe.

Some historians believe that the Western front in WW1 would have been lost if Germany hadn't taken troops away to fight the Russians in the Mazurian lakes. Following Russia's withdrawal from WW1 it was only the arrival of the Americans which saved Britain and France. Of course, this would never have influenced any decisions 25 years on...

Always a good laugh to see people offering holocaust denial websites as proof of anything!

is that Irving's website? The guy who opens one of his books by saying the Polish cavalry attacked gGrman tanks because they thought they were made of cardboard.

Funny how all it takes to change his mind about the Holocaust is a spell in an Austrian jail. maybe we should put him in a Spanish one and he'll say the Spanish killed Sikorski to get Poland to free Gibraltar.
andrew jab - | 33
12 Mar 2012 #107
Always a good laugh to see people offering holocaust denial websites as proof of anything!

Yes,hilarious.
I see Philby gets a mention.
I wish you would stop avoiding the issue of the soviets taking the proverbial out of your so called intelligence services and ultimately the foreign policy of your spineless goverment.
Harry
12 Mar 2012 #108
So you mean you want me to be banned for going off topic. Sorry but you'll have to try harder with that one.

Of course, I'd be happy to discuss the issue you refer to in a thread where it would be on topic (but that isn't here).
Marek11111 9 | 816
12 Mar 2012 #109
I wish you would stop avoiding the issue of the soviets taking the proverbial out of your so called intelligence services and ultimately the foreign policy of your spineless goverment.

good show to watch is brotherhood of darkness, that puts ww2 in different prospective and the world events.

youtube.com/watch?v=Sbfl3iyA6bA
andrew jab - | 33
12 Mar 2012 #110
So you mean you want me to be banned for going off topic. Sorry but you'll have to try harder with that one.

LOL.
You seem very quick to offer opinions on the British goverment and their policies so why are you so coy to avoid the Katyn denial/coverup and the disasterous penetration of MI5 by the Cambridge crowd.

Whats off topic about it?
As churchill said to Anders,i know your most important people are being murdered by the soviets as they push west but as im in bed with stalin im afraid i cant offer any help on that score.

Face the facts larry,your goverment got into bed with one of the most cruel vile dictators IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND.

There are many words in the dictionary to describe your goverment before during and after world war 2.
I'd choose vile.
Now,seeing as you avoid every point i have raised you are the 1st on my ignore list,or troll list as i'd prefer to call it.
Vieslava - | 23
12 Mar 2012 #111
Always a good laugh to see people offering holocaust denial websites as proof of anything!

Are you sane?

Here is more for ya: telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/2225955/Did-British-double-agent-Kim-Philby-murder-Polish-war-hero-General-Sikorski.html
Trevek 26 | 1,702
12 Mar 2012 #112
There are many words in the dictionary to describe your goverment before during and after world war 2.
I'd choose vile.

As is your right (and it's nicer than many other words some would use).

However, you might also consider that Churchill didn't just have Poland to worry about... he had a whole empire to try to save. Not that makes him any better or worse for his actions, just helps explain them a little.
Vieslava - | 23
13 Mar 2012 #113
good show to watch is brotherhood of darkness, that puts ww2 in different prospective and the world events.

Excellent show, but must be watched in its entirety to understand it fully.
Stan Monteith makes many excellent points, although there are some areas that I'm sure not everyone will agree with.
This video should be watched by every student of history.
isthatu2 4 | 2,702
13 Mar 2012 #114
Had they done that the Soviet invasion on September 17, 1939 most likely would not have happened,

You are not exactly Von Clauswitz are you love......
How long do you think it takes to assemble an Army, then transport it across country to various Sea Ports large enough to handle transport ships (which themselves need to be recalled from as far away as Australia) then steam ship that Army across the sea into ANOTHER country, put your nations Army under the command of the host nation, then prepare all the equipment,move int forward positions and launch even the smallest strike???

Well, trust me , two weeks wouldnt do it,so,stop talking out of your fanny (as you colonials say).
If you think the British Army could have been magicaly assembled from the four corners of the world then dropped off on Germanys western borders in less than a fortnight you really need to get a grip on reality.

Even today it takes months to assemble an invasion force in another country....do you think Uncle Sams boys set off from Cali one morning and crossed into Iraq that afternoon?

Basicaly love, do some reading,switch on your brain and people will stop laughing at your pathetic moaning jingoism.

Edit, she is obviously bonkers..."Chem Trails" LMFHAO you loon.... you rave about crazy folks who bark at the moon and then come on here and lecture people about history, that and the link to David irvine seriously marks you out as a nutter first class :):)
Vieslava - | 23
13 Mar 2012 #115
Basicaly love, do some reading,switch on your brain and people will stop laughing at your pathetic moaning jingoism.

I hope you are attacked by the Chinese, Muslims, Africans .... or UFOs, for all I care.
We'll all stand around and cheer you on.
isthatu2 4 | 2,702
13 Mar 2012 #116
lols, you are a card......so funny how trolls come on here ,spout the sort of BS they do,get called out and proved to be wrong/liars....and then get all silly. Not going to try and prove us wrong with facts then mad woman? Or are you sticking to your story about being in your 90s? Lols,talk about a pathetic defence,pretend to be old so we are all nice to you......btw, a mad 90 year old spreading BS is still going to get called a mad liar, equality for old gits is all the rage.
Harry
13 Mar 2012 #117
As churchill said to Anders,i know your most important people are being murdered by the soviets as they push west but as im in bed with stalin im afraid i cant offer any help on that score.

Do you by any chance happen to have a source to support that claim? Or is it just another lie?

I hope you are attacked by the Chinese, Muslims, Africans .... or UFOs, for all I care.
We'll all stand around and cheer you on.

While you are waiting for that to happen, perhaps you can go into detail about the way or ways in which Britain failed to live up to her treaty obligations?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
13 Mar 2012 #118
Do you by any chance happen to have a source to support that claim? Or is it just another lie?

Why, Gazeta Polska said it, so it must be true!
Ironside 51 | 11,339
13 Mar 2012 #119
While you are waiting for that to happen, perhaps you can go into detail about the way or ways in which Britain failed to live up to her treaty obligations?

biiiiiiiiiiiiiiip ....anybody there ? I told you already many time !
Harry
13 Mar 2012 #120
No you have not, you just keep repeating the same old tired lies and refusing to answer the question of what assistance it was within Britain's power to give in September or October 1939 which was not given.

Nice to know that you also lied about putting me on your ignore list.

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