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Polish roast pigeon anyone?


polonius 54 | 420
26 Oct 2012  #1
In an ealrier thread about rabbits, someone said the term 'rabbit fancier' cannot be used for someone fond of eating them.
So what does one use, if pigeon fancier is a no-no?
Anyway, anyone enjoy eating pigeons. If so, how prepared?
It is a lean dark meat loosely reminsicent of beef and should be larded before baking to make it tender.
Are the city pigeons so abundant in many places edible? That is, is cathcing, killing, cooking and eating them legally allowed? Secondly, can they be carriers of disease?
enkidu 7 | 623
26 Oct 2012  #2
Well... They sell pigeons sometimes at my local butcher. So - I suppose this is legal in the UK.
I have also have seen men hunting pigeons. Are the pigeons in the shop and those hunted on the fields the same pigeons? I don't know.

I remember the taste of pigeon soup from my childhood. It was just great. It was considered an expensive delicacy.
szkotja2007 27 | 1,500
26 Oct 2012  #3
If so, how prepared?

Roasted, sliced with black pudding and a little bacon.

Are the city pigeons so abundant in many places edible?

Nah, too small.

That is, is cathcing, killing, cooking and eating them legally allowed?

Yes

Secondly, can they be carriers of disease?

Yes.
enkidu 7 | 623
26 Oct 2012  #4
polonius:
Secondly, can they be carriers of disease?

Yes.

Well - they can get various illnesses. Just like any other bird. Like any other animal for that matter.
Unless someone try to eat them raw or to eat their droppings - there is no risk to human health.
szkotja2007 27 | 1,500
26 Oct 2012  #5
there is no risk to human health.

True - and they are very tasty !
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
26 Oct 2012  #6
Love pigeon, easily available around these parts due to the farmers shooting them. Great with red currant jelly :)
Nightglade 7 | 97
26 Oct 2012  #7
As a type of bush-meat, pigeon with nettle is very delicious. I'm not sure about Polish hunting laws, but in the UK pigeons (as well as any other non-protected game) can only be hunted on private land with the owner's permission and may only be done so with certain methods. As far as I remember, snares are illegal, as are catapults and bows. On another note, I wouldn't touch a city pigeon with a barge pole, only wood pigeons.
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
26 Oct 2012  #8
All information about shooting pigeons in the UK can be found: basc.org.uk/en/codes-of-practice/woodpigeon-shooting.cfm
OP polonius 54 | 420
26 Oct 2012  #9
Aren't the ones people go shooting for called mourning doves, a wild species?
Wroclaw Boy
26 Oct 2012  #10
That is, is cathcing, killing, cooking and eating them legally allowed?

I dont really fancy any sky rat or as some Londoners refer to them - ***** hawks.

You'd have to eat about 5 for it to make a decent meal.
jon357 63 | 14,124
26 Oct 2012  #11
You do realise that the edible ones are woodpigeons from the countryside rather than urban rats with wings?

More meat on that kind too.
MoOli 9 | 484
27 Oct 2012  #12
Wroclaw Boy
AND ABOUT QUAILS ALMOST 30
Rysavy 10 | 308
27 Oct 2012  #13
No Squab for me... it is in the; not good for anything but pie; category of small game. And may not be safe to eat if city bird.

If I was starving ..eh. in the pie or soup they go.
boletus 30 | 1,366
27 Oct 2012  #15
And may not be safe to eat if city bird.

True. Definitely not the dirty city pigeons.

No Squab for me... it is in the; not good for anything but pie; category of small game.

But there is this Polish saying: "pieczone gołąbki nie lecą same do gąbki" (roasted pigeons do not fly into your mouth by themselves), which means "nothing in life comes easy, with no action". Evidently roasted pigeons used to be known as a delicious dish - considering that they have been elevated to the proverb level.

Recipes?

Some are very elaborate, such as roasted pigeons served in special sauce made of pigeon (or chicken) liver, white wine, beef bullion, butter, juniper, salt, pepper, lemon.

Some are rather simple, but they all have something in common: they need spiking them with lard of wrapping them in slices of bacon. The roasting time differs: from 20 minutes (220 C) to one hour.

Some call for 24 simple marinade: water, onions, spices, vinegar.
Other recipes suggest rubbing them first with salt, pepper, garlic, oil and herbs (juniper, thyme, rosemary), and letting them soak the aroma for several hours before roasting. Either way, make sure to pour butter, water, or broth over them during roasting.

If you hunt them yourself make sure to select only the young pigeons for roasting because the old ones are usually tough. Breast meat of young pidgeons is white, while old ones - purplish blue. Pluck them carefully so that the skin is not torn. Put them into cold water for two hours right after shooting, then gut and clean them.

You can serve them with lettuce, blueberries, red cabbage (warm of cold), and treat yourself to dumplings topped with mushroom sauce. Silesian "black" dumplings (made of potato and potato flower) is a good example of "kluski" for this meal.

[Red cabbage: shred, cook until soft, mix apple, onions, spices and vinegar, pour some bacon or lard fat ]
enkidu 7 | 623
28 Oct 2012  #16
If you can make the chicken soup - just do the same with the pigeon. You would be surprised.
Rysavy 10 | 308
28 Oct 2012  #17
But there is this Polish saying: "pieczone gołąbki nie lecą same do gąbki" (roasted pigeons do not fly into your mouth by themselves), which means "nothing in life comes easy, with no action". Evidently roasted pigeons used to be known as a delicious dish - considering that they have been elevated to the proverb level.

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Heh.. Exactly... || ^_^

I am kinda funny about food that is tidbits. Only exception is well cooked fish that is eaten whole (liek kippers).
I've eaten and enjoyed many foods not in mainstream; but making a favorite of it? It isn't the taste so much.
It's too much work to eat or worse I have to handle it..... specially since I developed bad habit of near eating whole my food like a winter wolf (I know my father spins in his grave every time I have supper).

I do not eat buffalo wings often or short ribs for same reasons. I enjoy hunting small game for the challenge but not frequent since I don't "sport" hunt. If its is not going on my plate, I am not hunting it.


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