Salary and cost of living information - Krakow

Exactly scam artists. They provided false information to the consul, and/or violated the terms of their visas, either of which is criminal fraud. That why they want to put as much distance between them and Poland as possible.

Working 60 to 72 hours a week means that they are definitely not attending any classes. And no, no one at the university cares whether they attend or not. The university still has the fees and is not losing out. They are operating a borderline scam, too. All they care about is cash with no strings attached, free to spend how they wish without any interference from MEN. The state doesn't care, either. These "students" aren't going to stick around in Poland anyway. They'll abscond to the west soon enough and then be someone else's problem. No point in wasting any time over them.


It doesn't have to. It'll get them as far as Calais, where they will discard their passports and hop a truck on the way to the UK. If they get caught, then they just try the next day. Or the next. If they don't possess documents, then it's hard for either the French or the UK authorities to deport them. India won't accept them without their travel documents, and won't be in any hurry to issue replacements. The UK Border Force usually won't detain them, but let them go free on their own recognizance so they can just disappear into the woodwork. And if they do get caught again, they can't be detained or deported without travel documents so they are released again. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. If they are not stopped before entering the UK, it's pretty darn difficult to get them out. Not like the US, where detention is the norm and the process is streamlined.


Not 60 to 72 hours a week, it's not. The limit is 20 hours a week.


No they don't. And I gave you the CBOS figures which prove that that is not the case. It's only a very rare few, and it's going to be fewer and fewer every year because of competition from the Ukrainians. Certainly a percentage far too low to justify moving to Poland to study with the hope of getting a job. Like I always say, make your plans on the very safe assumption that you will never be able to earn a single penny during your stay in Poland. That is far more probable than finding a job. So is ending up a victim of an employment scam.

Which is not nearly enough to earn a living _and_ support studies....

@jon357

Also jon I primarily live in the us but i've been coming to Poland regularly since I was born there. I speak polish, am a citizen and have a lil property there. I also travel quite a bit for work and pleasure all over the us north am latam Europe and a once or twice to places like India China Israel etc. I've seen a lot of the changes not just Poland but other places too.

But yes you're right you rly have to go there to experience It yourself and network join clubs etc. You prolly have the most or at least among the most info on warsaw n pl in general since it sounds like you've been there a while. Im familiar with the slask area. Im hoping to resettle permanently to Poland in the next 2 3 years n have starting planning accordingly. I just don't feel the same not being in my motherland w all my family.

@iwilldoit
2000 zlotys is low even by polish standards. Usually people spend around 2k 2.5k that much just for rent in a cheaper area. You'll live a very Spartan lifestyle and most likely have times where you're stressing over how to afford basic things. If say you and you're gf were bringing in 2k each that's a bit more doable but still pretty low by pl standards.

If you were qualified enough to get a job in customer service maybe you can try to get a similar level position in sales which generally pays more. I've worked in b2b sales for a while and applied to a few places like Google in wroclaw in the past where they offered 2k usd plus commission so one could expect the total comp to average around 3k a month, 3.5k up to 4k once someone's established w a book a business. I do know that Google also has a branch in krakow. Perhaps you could apply there.

@avalon85
9K zloty is considered a pretty good salary in poland. You won't live the high life or likely be able to save much depending on your tastes but you'll be comfortably. Imo you should count on spending at least 2.5k 3k a month going towards rent and bills at a small lower end smaller place in a larger pl city.

Which is why they will eventually abandon their studies, and either return home, broke and broken, having squandered their families meager life savings, or abscond to the West in search of a way to recoup their loss, and probably stay for years on end working illegally, probably getting a British citizen pregnant in the meantime.

Melodrama, from some guy in America who simply does not know.


What's wrong with that?


This is absolutely true. Due to the year on year increase in overseas students, there are more and more possibilities. My OH works at a university (with a very low drop-out rate) organising activities, welfare, integration. It works well.

I wouldn't suggest Krakow - there are simply too many foreign people there, all chasing the same work, and rent is driven up by this. Warsaw is the best place if someone wants to work as well/instead, and the cost of living is moderate.

It's a monstrous thing to do to a woman, a child, the populace of the UK and every foreigner who goes through the proper legal immigration channels if your main and only goal is to secure residency in the UK, everyone else be damned. Only scum would do such a thing.

Get her pregnant? In which case 90% of men must be 'monstrous'.


Sad that you've revealed your motive for trying to take a thread on the cost of living and salaries in Krakow off-topic.

People emigrate for work or study for so many reasons and this is only increasing as the world gets smaller - your nonsense isn't going to stop even one person.

And yes, the cost of living in Krakow is moderate, more and more people come to study in Poland every year and more work is available for them as the economy grows. Whether you think people are


or not.

You bet. I can't believe you would defend such a horrific abuse of a woman for purely selfish reasons. Have you no sense of common decency? It's rape, of the mother and of the child conceived.

If he were a legal immigrant, then love would be involved. But any "love" in this case would be forever tainted with pure and hateful selfishness. Using a woman and child as tools to break into where you have no possible right to be?

If you can't see the wrong in that, then you are beyond hope.

Where did you read that? Those are the old rules, but as far as I'm aware, anyone with a residence card can work unrestricted now. Those 20 hours also only applied to those on umowa o prace, which was nearly no-one.

@delphiandomine

There is no way that anyone would believe that a person working 60 to 72 hours a week is a bona fide student. If caught, they would have been deported for violating the terms of their visas. This wasn't during the summer, but for up to five months starting in February.

To have a consensual relationship and start a family?


You obviously have a right to hold whatever bizarre opinion you pull out of wherever about other people's relationships - however you don't say how this is related in any way to the salary levels and cost of living in Krakow i.e. the topic of this thread.


This is true. If someone chooses to work long hours and it is legal, that is up to them. The only issue is workers' rights, which Poland circumvents by allowing people (including erstwhile English Teachers like 'Dominic') to claim to be self-employed.

Actually, it's quite possible. Visas and residence permits are issued for weekend studies, so you can easily fit in 60 hours Monday-Friday, and those part time studies are normally only 15-16 weekends a year.

And there are no restrictions on the hours worked.

Anything's better than paying Polish employees a living wage, I guess.

They're all in Birmingham working there.

A worker's a worker.

People (and groups of people) are not interchangeable cogs and a huge amount of harm (economic and social) is being produced by policies that assume they are....

Please audience ,
How can a Nigerian Obten a student visa to study in Poland and how is the process and the cost , again when apply how long would it take before I get ?

Thanks for your wonderful answer and advice on my previous question .

Yes we are.


You need a place at university, and proof you can cover the costs of your stay.