Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA?

No they're not. They're native to central Asia. With very few exceptions, all fruits and vegetables eaten in Poland today have been introduced, and are often not even native to Europe. The exceptions I can think of are wild mushrooms, buckwheat and some wild berries, the cultivated varieties of which, though, have generally been introduced.

Anyone (yes, including you Polonius :P) who wants to see how a Polish restaurant can work needs to go here -
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Looks like they're doing a great trade, the reviews online are very good, the food is authentic, etc etc.

It's also, crucially, not pretentious - Polish food isn't (and shouldn't be - it's not in the Polish nature!), and I'm not surprised that the reviews all say that it's far, far better than that Warszawa place.


...working in shops, gutting fish, driving trucks....


It's really quite obvious that you've never, ever been to Poland. The claim that Poles are "above" this sort of thing - well - 2 million of them are doing exactly that in the UK. In fact, most of them are nowhere near running restaurants, but rather doing the jobs that no-one else wants to do - such as the jobs listed by me and Fuzzy.


Explains why 2 million of them had to leave Poland then to find work, and why there's still over 10% unemployment, doesn't it?

Incidentally, your ignorance of Poland shows yet again - because Poland is still characterised by heavy industry and hard physical labour. Things are changing, but slowly.


Gotta love someone who feels something in common with a people that he's never met.

I have stated the fact that American Polonia often works in creative fields such as graphic design, the visual arts and philosophy. Delphiandomine qoutes this statement and follows with this hilariously stupid non sequitor:


No, Delphiandomine the creative vocations of American Polonia do not explain Polish emigration and unemployment. Polish emigration and unemployment are explained by Poland having been impoverished by the Second World War and misgoverned for several decades by the Soviet Union. My point is that here in the USA, the land about which this thread is concerned, Polonia is integrated and well-off and so we can pursue our creative proclivities to our hearts' content. Becoming restaurateurs is often the vocation new immigrants to America, but Polish-Americans are, for the most part, too well established here to be drawn into the somewhat grueling task of running restaurants. Thus, the relative lack of Polish restaurants in the USA, far from proving the inferiority of Polish cuisine, results from the fact that most Polish-Americans would rather be doing other things than running restaurants. That being said those Poles and Polonians whose love of our national cuisine has lead them to open Polish restaurants are surely honorable as well and if any Polish restaurateurs happen to be reading this post then please know that I salute you.

I agree definitely with your statement .It seem that we are not a country of restaurateurs. We have as a nation more ambitions , than to become a culinary heaven . We are probably better in science than cooking. The main factor that Polish cuisine does not sweep you off your feet is that , it is similar to German, English and any other Northern European, so there is nothing very special about it . The same refers to other northern European national restaurants, which simply are not flocked by Americans .

Americans look for exotic cuisine and Polish cuisine is not as such for them .

Surely no more than the statistical norm.


This much s true.


Not at all similar. Far less varied and subtle.


Our? What is the 'Polonians' national cuisine, because it ain't Polish?

well done, you make me laught, thank you !

this thread is silly - europen food is similar and interwined on so many levels that only fools are fighing about supperiorty of their country food.

some like that and others like something else - you like your food I like mine - get a life !

Re Polka Restaurant video -- curry powder as a Polish seasoning is rather gross, innit!? Next they'll be pouring ketchup on naleśniki....

I thought the same thing. All that garlic that the pierogi were sauteed in is not very traditional either.
Also, cream cheese in pierogi potato filling?

Ghost wrote:


i don't see much fighting regarding which food is superior, i see the vast majority giving examples of why Polish food doesn't succeed in the USA (the point of the thread) because it is plain, bland, salty and fatty and Poles doing their best to fight back.

Listen you all...

The fact is - Polish food is not popular bc OUR CUISINE is for Northern Europeans and not Americans. They have different tastebuds that s all.

However, I would take Schabowy over Chipotle... Surowki ROCK and until you ve actually seen and tasted them don't you dare saying it's a bunch of LARD. And nothing beats sledzie, kabanosy, surowki and ZUREK. I am actually cooking some ZUREK as I type. And hey guess what! I AM A POLISH WOMAN WHO CAN COOK. What's more - I am a HOT Polish woman who can cook and on top of everything I am a POLISH AND AMERICAN (NY) lawyer and I don't like the nasty comment's about Polish cuisine. Had it not been for Chinese, Japanese, Mexiac, French, Italian etc. you AMERICANS wouldn't have much to be proud of.

That being said...Polish food might be fatty but it's way healthier than the average American's meal. And educate yourself some more, as Polish cuisine is not just the LARD and Kielbasa. That just shows how little you know FUZZ.

I’ll say!! Not greasy enough for them.


Yah, like their southern cooking, everything deep fried. Yap I’ll bet that LARD really bothers them a lot that’s why they have bacon and ages for breakfast every day.


Considering that everything they consume is processed food and their favorite snack potato chips, French fries (cough) my bad, freedom fries, that earlier comment about the salt is up to date. LMAO

In my opinion, if they really cared what they eat they wouldn’t look like walking TUB of LARD.

[quote=Lady PL However, I would take Schabowy over Chipotle[/quote]

the thing is, schabowy isn't really Polish. It's widely known under all kinds of different names in many different countries.

Lady PL wrote:

this post had me laughing out loud. my favorite parts are as follows:



what a hysterical stance to take.

and remember folks, when you get upset on this forum, be sure to remind us of how HOT you are and how much money you earn....that outta help you get the point across.

?????


are you now trying to tell us that a country made entirely of immigrants from around the world.....oh forget it.

what a 'tard.

I'm considering apologising to delphiandomine. A Pol-Am who thinks Poland is in "Northern Europe". :D

I bet you also think "central America" means Texas :p

cabbage? check
pork? check
potatoes? check
heavy bread? check

Dunno, driving from Holland to Minsk, don't notice a big difference. salt, salt, and a bit more salt.

convex wrote:


I'm TOTALLY HOT and totally agree.

Don`t eat it , then . Instead of this , immerse your senses in the Anglo - Saxon exquisite flavors .

That's exactly what this thread is about. People don't eat it, for the reasons listed above.

absolutely...you couldn't do better :))

Whats that ?

I'm serious, can someone can give me a hand here

british food is better.

anglo-saxon = british

Hey Wroclaw if I disagree with your claim regarding British food's superiority will you suspend me again?

Honestly British food is still great but only if its freshly made with good countryside, not factory farmed, ingredients. Same for POlish food right? So in POland, food still tastes great, in USA it probably tastes like shyte cos its made with factory farmed ingredients and meat pumped full of hormones, etc

SO there's your possible explanation..

crappy explanation based on ignorance as we have farmer's markets all around the US and anyone who's willing to spend few bucks more, can eat healthy products on daily basis.

post as u please and we'll judge it later, if need be.

What are those reasons exactly? A primitive logic that can only exist in the mind of your usual Polish bashers, very narrow minded point of view IMO but effective as it fits very well with your average western way of thinking for obvious reason. Feel free to spread your BS though if it makes you happy but don't expect me to have a good opinion of people like yourself as an educated, suffisticated English gentleman, you're simply not.

well I don't doubt that, same in UK, but I am quite sure average restaurants don't buy that stuff.

Great post Thug,I agree 110%.

You haven't really answered my question and who are the "we" that'll judge my posts? Would that be you and a commitee of other British expatriates living in Poland who can't stand criticism of their Polonophobic posts?

Is there somebody who is seriously claiming that British staple cuisine is better than polish staple cuisine ? Really ?