Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays

I think that I already answered that question !
Those decisions should not be left for a low key administration employees !They mean well and their decision could be even logical but their lack wider perspective or plainly don't care!Well, fair enough!

The fact that politicians or top brass of US restrained to make changes speak volumes about US government attitude toward Poland.
You may ask why should said politicians influence work of administrators ? Well, for continuous military and political support given to USA by Poland - which they seems not to value much.

They choose not to do so, fine thats their right but it also my right to have my own conclusion as have every Polak!
Fuzz, basically you asking me to understand US decision - and believe me I do understand - but you asking me to agree with it - I cannot do that, sorry fuzz!

Anyway, circumstances changed since 90s but not US clerks attitude!


You stating is as the fact! Do you know that to be the fact or it just your stipulations?
the problem is that so called polish government is a bunch of fukkers who couldn't care less!

ironside wrote:


what proof do you have of this?

ironside wrote:


2,000 polish soldiers in afghanistan has absolutely nothing to do with the VWP. besides, whether Poland is granted visa free travel or not, they'll still send some troops. no difference.

ironside wrote:


typing with you is utterly painful. you simply don't read what people write. either that or the language barrier gets in the way and you're just not quite understanding.

i'm done wasting my time, i'm repeating myself over and over.

Yup that's it

Well, you asking me to take your word for it! I'm simply asking for confirmation , thats all!


Get real what prove I can have on the INTERNET?


Well, they shouldn't have been there in the first place!
I still don't like that Poland is shun because of a few illegal immigrants and some **** hole with no more people that 2 polish cites together get into the VWP no prob !

no difference !


Well fuzz, whatever !
All, you ever said is that there some reasons behind USA decision about visas. I have never doubted it.
I only said that those reasons are not of such a nature and magnitude that could be of real encumbrance for USA !
I asked why USA cannot treat with Poland with a little preferential attitude?
Well, if all its business and interest, negotiation and all - thats fine enough!
I have been saying from the beginning that I blame polish government!
I was only ever discussing in this treat for two reason:
-it **** me off that Poland is exuded from free visa when all the country's of the region are in ! I still think that USA should not include them into the VWP while they were excluding Poland!

- some posters were blaming Poles for that exclusion from the program and whereases I would agreed if they would had blamed polish government. I couldn't be quited reading their BS!

I hope one day there will be a polish government representing interests of Poland!


come on if you are a native speaker you must be a retard !

ironside wrote:


WHY.

Yeah dude, be happy Poles don't get visas, there's more retards like me here.


Why don't you learn proper english before posting on here so others can understand. Every sentence you write has grammatical errors. Poles don't bother to learn english when they come here because they just sit around the Polish sections, work illegally for other Poles and they sit here 30, 40 years and never learn the language. You sound just like one of them, you think you know english yet every sentence is full of gramatical errors and you expect others to understand you and your twisted logic.

Indeed, why should America? It's not like America owes Poland anything.

Poland jumped into bed with America without securing a good deal - their problem. America did a great deal, Poland not so.


Indeed, successive governments from all sides of the political spectrum are to blame for the failure to join the VWP.

Why don't you fok off to some american forum where you can show off with your english punk?


Like there were so many american turists in PL before 91 to even care about them.Besides,you are saying that POLISH CITIZENS being illegaly or not in the US needed a visa to go to Poland?You are a retard.


As much as I don't like it I have to agree with that.

You know you are right,why indeed?


Yes I know, US is full of a brain dead retards like you.


I expect you to buzz off if you don't like it!
You taking some sad stories, pry tell how many people in your US is illiterate? How many speaks only Spanish? Who gives damn about few odd immigrants, only you, a bitter twisted retard !


Holly-molly!!!!!! for once I agree with you, so where your family is from originally ?

ironside wrote:


it's comments like this that show us all what your MO is on this forum. you do anything you can to make sure Poland saves face, right or wrong, at all costs, even if it means exposing how horribly anti-american you are. it's pathetic.

honestly man, if you want to argue things on this forum, do it with at least SOME sort of strategy. "Internet Jockey" doesn't hold water man. do you even know ONE american? i know for a fact you've never set foot on American soil, yet you somehow know the "US is full of brain dead retards". you stink of angst, animosity and down right jealousy.....and that goes for all topics on this forum.

keep prayin' to Jesus, Ironside.....cause he's the only one listening.

You know fuzz, I don't give a damn what you think or anybody else for that matter. I just like to set a record straight.

Did you read at last one post of so called tygrys? If you didn't you make sure you do, if you did thats means you agree with him - so you can take your big words mister and stuff it, because they reek of hypocrisy!

For nationalists like you any critic is anti-Americanism ( in my case its BS), fine but I can say that you do your country disservice siding with the bitter retard!

Anyway,with such attitude goodbye USA and welcome USSA !

At least I don't drink and take drugs like you and don't have mush for a brain. lol

cause you have no brain lol !

there's NO comparisson as the USA is the best place to work, live and enjoy life in the world! Europe compared to america is rubbish! america is sooooo much cool and comfortable!!! everything is bright and new!! we have california, Florida, vegas!!! all polish people i know say they would NEVER come back to europe! not a chance! lol

Very true, Most Poles cringe at the thought, when I ask them if theyre ever going to return home.

They make it sound as if they escaped from a prison,,,lol

After reading this whole thread my first thought is: it's sad.
Not because of mutual ranting over USA-PL relationships, which is just expected to fail if both sides are so utterly biased towards their opinions.
It's because the original problem of not getting a US VISA by honest people or VWP exclusion of Poland.

As I understand the numbers, 3% refusal limit can be reached by:
1. Sufficient number of applicants not meeting the requirements during application processing
2. Sufficient number of applicants having their application refused during interview

I am assuming that point 1 is not a problem as applicants generally have all (or more) documents prepared, there was no single case of refusal at this stage mentioned in this thread.

It means that result of the interview influences the statistics exclusively. If in all cases applicant was refused to get a VISA in just few sentences without ability to explain the situation even if financial capabilities of the applicant were more than sufficient it leaves only one possible outcome: clerks have goals which need to be met, regardless if it is the monthly, yearly, weekly or daily limit of applications or some other criteria.

This brings up politics (mentioned previously). If USA government has absolute contronl over VISA application refusal limit and (obviously) have no control over immigrant decision of staying illegally who account for <1% of VISA applications, then 3% limit (or any other) is arbitrary and cannot be connected with immigration rate of Poles.

I have not compared this numbers with other countries than Poland, but by analogy for other countries limits are arbitrary as well anc can be easily manipulated, which leads to a conclusion that Poland is locked from VWP on purpose, regardless of what the reason is.

Michal, UK

Meehaugh wrote:


no.

Your "1" is a useless thing to even mention. Anyone is welcome to apply, they aren't going to throw your paperwork back in your face based on.....on I have no idea. Hence, like you said, "there was no single case of refusal at this stage mentioned in this thread."

Now, regarding your above statement, chances are they already know after reviewing your case and going through your paperwork, whether or not you're getting one or not before you even show up. It takes months after the application is originally submitted before you get an interview, they have plenty of time to check you out.

Meehaugh wrote:


well yes. I'd say that's a safe deduction. kinda like everything I just typed back to you just now was "on purpose".

To avoid such misunderstandings, I should have written:

(...) which leads to a conclusion that Poland is locked from VWP by US government due to internal immigration policies, leaving 3% refusal rate (or any other as this percentage is linked with goals given to US Embassy in Poland) as an official reason, regardless of the fact that Polish illegal immigrant numbers are average among other countries with high VISA application volumes.

Meehaugh wrote:


I can't argue this because I've never seen facts to dispute it, which leads me to my question: How do you know this?

Let's say this were true. If it were in fact true that statistically, Polish illegal immigrant numbers were "average", not high or very high, could we then consider the possibility that the current screening systems used by the embassy is working? If it were a broken, poorly done screening system, we'd have more Poles overstaying, would we not?

But again, I'd like to see where you get your facts about how many Poles overstay their visas.

bummer.....i was kinda hoping to get a link or two on those stats.....

I read this thread in hope of getting some advice on travelling to America for a holiday (and before you start I am Englush, my partner is Polish). However the attitude of the yanks, for one lecturing on speaking English when they can't even speak it themselves, has put me off completely so thanks for saving me the time contemplating this any further. Poles come to England it is much better. Dont even waste your breath and money on the yanks.

Number1 wrote:


you read what a couple of bozos wrote on an internet forum and that was enough for you to write off the USA entirely, as well as telling everyone else on here that visiting the USA is a waste? haha, and to boot, you recommend your own place of origin.

well done, mate.

Everywhere in UK Hifliger polo shirts cost as much as £40 or £50 each in discount shops like House of Frasier. I bought a pair of Hifliger jeans in TK Max for about £20 but you can't always find them there. On average big label polo shirts cost no less than £20 each so it seems US has more to offer in this respect.

Hello everybody, I'm a polish citizen but I was born in Italy and always lived here.
I'm on my first year of university, and a friend told me about the possibility to work in the USA for two-three months this summer.

I requested italian citizenship but they told me I'll have it in no less than 1 more year, and i just read that polish citizens need a visa to work in the usa, so I would like to know what should I do in this case.

Do I have to travel to Poland for asking the visa or can I do it in Italy? (I don't speak polish so good)

Is it difficult to get? we aren't sure to do this and if I could get into some troubles for being a polish citizen i probably would stop considering that possibility.

some time ago (like 10 years) Polish students were allowed to go to the US to work as volunteers (like in say children summer camps) - however the visa given in such cases encompassed 2 or even 3 months and the camp job (which paid you some pocket money actually and some 100 bucks on the departure) usually ended in 4 weeks - in the time left to the expiry of your visa you could (illegally though) arrange for some job - (the organizations that brought volunteers from Poland paid their flights) - I have no idea if such arrangements are still a legal possibility or whether if still legal some American organizations do recruit foreign (including Polish volunteers) - try a web search on this

But we have someone there who can find us a legal job, the problem is: are we sure to enter or can we be refused?

when you apply for an American visa in Poland you are supposed to have an interview with the consulate official who will decide whether to give you a visa - and many people are refused visa in Poland (if there is suspicion enough on the part of the official that you are going to overstay your visa and work illegally) - there are fees included in the application process - as a permanent resident of Italy I don't really know how and where you should apply (go to an American consulate where you live and ask them) - in your case a tourist visa would be granted easily if you reached the interview stage I guess because you are supposed to return to Italy to continue your study and you live in Italy which has a much higher income per capita than Poland

Polish politicians should grow some balls and tell the yanks, if you want to base missiles in our country drop this visa BS.

valid enough, but you have to consider who benefits more from the exchange, or at least, who thinks they are benefiting more.

yes indeed, well put. Many polish politicians understandebly are still in the cold war mindset and view america as their benelovent saviour. In fact this is spread across the whole population, american culture is revered, there are queues to get into pizza hut. etc

Revered?

Hardly.


Are there? Can't say I've ever seen a queue here. Maybe you're mixing up Poland of 2011 with Poland of 1991?