If America is so bad, why move here?

Pesky, szarlotka??

I think we all need to get back on track. Penn, I know that many go across from the likes of Zakopane to roll the dice and see what's what. I must admit, getting a property in Zakopane through hard work done in the US is sensible. Have you been to Zakopane, Penn? Truly beautiful!

What have the Japs or lend lease got to do with the question posed?

I would say the Royal navy of the day was a match for the US navy and added to it the German navy as well even more so.

the funny thing about arguments such as these is that if so called citizens were from tim buk two, tim buk two would be the best country on the planet.

Very true it's all what ifs, buts and maybes.

it is indeed a sad day when a so called (what ever) citizen totally turns his back on his country in allegiance for another. You'll be back.......

Wroclaw the colonies weren't built for America they were built for England, nothing is owed. Besides in 1776 this was still a wild country what had A LOT of needed development.

Harry Britain and Germany could never mobilize as many troops as America, or build so much equipment. You'd get drowned in a sea of men and equipment. Even Stalin admitted the war would have taken another year to beat Germany if it wasn't for Americas help. America armed itself to the teeth and helped the UK and Soviet Union at the same time.

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WB; Why dont you stop and think about what you say before you make an A$$ out of yourself.. Now if I recall it was you that stated that you returned to Britain only to find that you did not like what you saw and returned to Poland.. Read your statement above. Sometime I question your intellegence

It suited my personal circumstances at the time, its not like im going to swear allegiance or sign up for the army or anything like that. You will NEVER hear me talking in any way similar to you with regard to one country being superior over another, period. It is especially p1ss poor when one is from a different country but thats what America does doesn't it? Rule number 1, dont forget where you came from.....but more importantly dont be ashamed.


Question away i will fcuking own you in any debate, discussion or whatever.

As i said you'll be back when it suits, and that goes for all you fcuking Polams.


But essentially helped itself don't ever forget that.

WB Nuneczka is American born and WWII vet, a little respect. As for me I'm Polish but since I've been here since I was a child and acquired a citizenship I feel both Polish and American. No one thinks America is superior we were talking about WWII and someone said UK and Germany could have beat us, I just stated you wouldn't have a chance, It's the truth.

Ahh but we (Germany) had the Nukes biatch, what ya saying now?


respect my ass, my grandfather was a vet - you show some respect. Hes a twat singing the same tune all those old brainwashed dudes do.

Every country in the world has its pros and cons. As a close neighbour of America and also having lived and extensively traveled in that country I can offer these observations.

Good
1.Americans are the friendliest people you can imagine. I've sat alone in restaurants and had people drop over to talk to me at my table or invite me over to theirs. Not just once or twice, consistently, and throughout the country, from the ranchlands of Montana to small town North Carolina to the industrial outback of Wisconsin. You would not see that in Canada.

2. Meritocracy. There is reward for hard work and innovation and the reward is larger in America than anywhere else. The best and the brightest end up there, not only because of financial incentives, but because they are welcomed there. Americans don't resent achievement, they applaud and admire it.

3. Generosity: I can't say anything better than how a fellow Canadian said it many years ago. It's a little dated, but true nevertheless. Read it here: truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/gordonsinclair.htm

4. Many countries, but particularly Canada, have had a better, more secure life because America stood eyeball to eyeball with the USSR and the Russians blinked first. I knew life under Soviet communism was grim but I just read the book Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin and I have a much better appreciation for the horrifying hell on earth visited upon the Poles, Ukrainians, Belorussians and people in the Balkan states. Fourteen million people dead, the vast majority from a deliberate policy of murder. I am humbled by the courage and resilience of the people of Central Europe.

Detrimental to America's international standing (in other words, why Americans **** people off)
Failure to recognize there is a world outside the US borders and it's a big, important world at that. American parochialism is legendary. It frustrates the hell out of people when they meet an American and feel dismissed as unimportant against that swaggering arrogance and superiority complex. It's called the Ugly American Syndrome and I know many Americans hurt and bewildered by the hostility they encounter from other nationalities. Unfortunately, too many Americans over too many years have earned that reputation on behalf of their own citizens. It will take a considerable amount of time to undue that damage.

What Nukes? Conventionally u'd be defeated

I am soooo tempted to find some random photo of Detroit depicting it as a nice place, like some wealthy person's back yard garden or something.....


Very few people, aside from Americans, understand this or refuse to admit it. Nice one, adersm.

WWII vet? So he's in his 80's?

I think that's for another thread.

Many people are drawn to negativity so that's one possible answer for the thread.

At least!

Yes. He said it on the forum before. He said he was stationed in England before the Normandy invasion, he talked about people leaving for the suburbs in the 50s and 60s remember?

So - let's assume he was there as an 18 year old, plus 67 years - that makes him 85 at least.

The nukes designed by German scientists that were granted amnesty in the States. You know the ones that were dropped on Japan, German scientists designed them mate.


Nahh, even without the nukes it would have been a war of attrition for decades as both sides built up forces and more importantly the means to deploy them thousands of miles away. The Royal Navy at that time was comparable to the US Navy so that was a good starting block, add a few German U Boats and some of their battleships and we'd have ruled the oceans in no time. Germany and the UK had technology for the Jet engine fighter, the US's most effective fighter had an English Rolls Royce engine - which would have obviously been none existent, so come on dude what really could the US have brought to the table in that war? US Sherman tanks - pieces of crap.

It would have been a turkey shoot, easy pickings for Europe.

But we had the nukes sooooo. In any case you were yet to be born so you'd have been born Polish.

The best defense they ever had was the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean.

But seriously what did the US have in 1944 that could have won a true World War?

I live in the southern plains whee oil and natural gas are harvested. There's no recession here.

MY,My such language.. TSK,TSK. Did I hit a nerve? Aww! I did not mean to upset you.

Nothing. They even used much of the German rocket technology after WW2. And it's no surprise that there was never intensive denazification - they got too much from Nazi scientists!

Geez, what would Prescott Bush have made of this thread? ;)

Oppenheimer was an American Jew if I remember correctly. Even if Germany knew how you need the uranium and facilities to make it which they did not have otherwise the war would have been different.


'By 1943, the US Navy's size was larger than the combined fleets of all the other combatant nations in World War II.[3] By war's end in 1945, the United States Navy had added hundreds of new ships, including 18 aircraft carriers and 8 battleships, and had over 70% of the world's total numbers and total tonnage of naval vessels of 1,000 tons or greater.' So I don't think so.


The M26 Pershing was a very good tank but because bureaucracy and production already underway with the Shermans it was thought to just overwhelm the enemy with sheer numbers, as we did. BTW the outstanding suspension on the T34 was a American design copied by the Soviets.

But somehow they managed. Must have been a miracle than, eh?

The level of this exchange is embarrassingly low.

Oh My! Now sit down and catch your breath little boy.. You are getting siii excited.

Just remember that you are a Moderator and are expected to be above such tirades

Youre just a naive fool basically, clinging on to old myths. I'm not upset just disappointed that some people still believe the crap you've spouted on this thread.

AWW shidt, you guys are killing me.. YUP this old fart is 86 yrs old..

I always did have a way of pi$$ing people off.

America wouldnt have stood a chance in making the first nuke without British and German minds. Kind of like antibiotics.


Time scales dude - time scales, yes so weve established that America was an industrial powerhouse, but what good are pistols against machine guns?


Was it designed by native Indians then?

You should be more focused on Poland mate, thats your country, thats where you were born. You cant just be somebody else.....


At least that explains the "you'd all be wearing striped pyjamas" quote, even if he did actually forget thats what the Jews in prison camps wore.

What do you think Iraq was, just a week ago they left in the middle of the night like Russians from Afghanistan, the difference lest Russian troops out of Afghanistan left in the day light hours.