If America is so bad, why move here?

Delphie in my Voivodeship it was from people going and working in America or Western Europe for years and bringing their money back home. We had a friend of the family who was an electrician here went back with half a million bucks to start a business. What i'm saying is you can have a life in Poland but you need to make your money abroad first, unless you got a rich family or connections to get a job in a good company.



He answered it. I know it's old towns weren't rebuilt and look like they have for centuries but have been neglected and look worn out and depressing. Stalowa Wola was a steel mill boom town nothing really there.

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One of the many things which make me prefer Lublin to Warsaw is that its Old Town is somewhat worn around the edges!

Detroit was the motor city, a capital of capitalism with a population of 5m+. The neglect of Stalowa Wola is not even in the same league compared to Detroit. Considering you have only experienced the recession for 3 years now some parts of the city look like 20 years after its nuclear demise after WWIII where no one lifted a finger to rebuild it. Where’s that prosperity you speak of? Other parts of US don’t fair much better.

People are flocking to my part of the US.

What part is that?

Its just that this is a more likely sight. Near Sandomierz

Dude my wife is from that area i know it only too well, ive spent months up there, i friggen hate it. Theres nothing going on at all, unless mushroom picking is your favourite pass time.

You are probably right. Could it be that our immigrant Parents could not survive in Poland,so they sought refuge in America.. There is a Statue in New York Harbor stating to send us your poor and hungry and opressed. So why should they hold any alliegence to Poland.? They are a complete new breed of Polish Americans, they got away from all the hardship that they faced in Poland.

My Dad told me about the hardship and hunger that they lived with in Poland. America was the promised land. I was never in Poland. I got as far as Germany.. Yes it was beautiful. But it could never beat America.

We have two oceans, the Gulf of Mexico ,Great Northern neighbors. Our Mtn's, the great lakes.. And we were never conquered.

Although you do hold the distinction of being the only country to get its arse kicked by Canada twice (and once, now that I think about it).

Your dad probably emigrated from Russian empire.

You dont have shite my friend, nada. Youre just a person with a beating heart exactly the same as me. All this our and we, whats wrong with you?


lets not forget about Vietnam.

Don't underestimate the strength of what nunczka said. Poles are romantic so the American Dream appealed. However, they can also be pragmatic so they look for new opportunities.

More directed to the thread, I think that Poles started to get a taste for what the West has had for so long. Many flocked to their rich families in Chicago and sampled what they had to offer. Whatever state the American economy may or may not be in, they still have a wealth of choice that most here can only dream of.

If you read what I wrote. I think you will find that I said (OCCUPIED)

Yes, which is why I wrote "Although you ...."

There are a number of countries in the world which have never been occupied, Canada is one of them, and so is Great Britain.

Was occupied by the Romans and the Danes amongst others.

I'd love to know when the Romans invaded the United Kingdom. Or when the Danes invaded, for that matter.


Or possibly the Austrian.

I wonder how many Polish-Americans actually have Polish roots, given the utter lack of self identification by many minorities at the time of mass emigration?

Great Britain.. Lol! If it were not for America and lend lease, not to mention the American GI.. You would all be wearing stripped pajamas today. ( Smirk)

Me too. Perhaps Des Esseintes could be so kind as to tell us?

One could ask, if American is so wonderful, why has nobody even attempted to invade it for such a long time?

I know all about it visited Detroit in 2005. I saw most of downtown saw Warren, Michigan and a few nearby towns. The factories, old rail stations many neighborhoods look like Stalingrad never rebuilt. What you didn't mention (I don't wanna hear any political correctness on this one) is that Detroit is nearly 90% Black. Once the motor industry went downhill white folks moved out into the suburbs and blacks moved it to collect wellfare. Where there's people willing to work pay taxes there's cleanliness and order.


33% of Chicago residents are homeowners for the ethnic Polish community it's 66% exactly twice more. Shows hard work and ambitiousness.

Alternatively we could have joined in Hitler's plan in the position he envisaged: the two great empires of the world defeating the USA.

Would you want the hassle of occupying it?

All these Americans, fighting each other in order to prove who is ethnically "best". Screw that, they can keep it.

Britain was occupied by the Romans and the Danes. If you'd love to know when then Google it.

Harry what have you been smoking? Germany with the UK wouldn't even come close. Yamamoto warned of American industry capacity. Before the war the American army was smaller than Poland's. In a couple years grew to the most powerful on the planet.

Trust me.. With your attitude your a$$ would have gone up in smoke

Really?

Alternatively, America could have quite easily sued for peace in light of an onslaught from all directions.

Depends on your definition of 'occupation' Neither the Romans or Vikings (who came from not just present day Denmark but also Sweden & Norway) ever controlled the whole of the British Isles, especially the pesky Scots. Neither came close to a full occupation.

And before anybody starts shouting 1066 and the French remember that they were Normans who were the descendents of fthe vikings (Norse Men) that we kicked out to Northern France.

Delph Germany didn't even have a long range bomber to go past the Urals and destroy Soviet war production how were they gonna go about bombing Detroit?

I think it would have been very close!

You actually wrote conquered.


If it were not for England America wouldnt be America, come on you can take the butterfly effect anyway you chose, idiot. I mean the founding fathers were all English or of direct English heritage. So it kind of levels out that the English ended up helping the English, no?

Bases in the British empire? Canada for the north of the USA or the Caribbean islands.

The Japanese after building up for war couldn't even take on America's Pacific fleet alone in an all out battle let alone the entire US Navy. The British would have been a goner without the lend lease program.