And what was the context that would justify Sol Cambell saying that Poland
What arrogant and f**cked up way of thinking to continually comment on a programme you have never even seen.
Regarding quoting someone, context is everything, and you have no idea concerning the context in which the remarks were made.
I will watch it probably some day, if I find the whole thing, but I don't see how any context would help here.
Because you can prove just about anything about just about anyone by quoting them out of context.
Barney is right, Sol Cambell in this fragment looks like a tube conveying the point that those that made that programme apparently wanted to make - Poland and Ukraine didn't deserve the Euro and people shouldn't go there o_O
But you don't know this, because you haven't watched the programme.
Why don't you go and write some film reviews of movies you haven't seen? Or holiday reviews of places you haven't visited? Or work as an art critic reviewing paintings of artists whose paintings you've never ever set eyes on?
And they succeeded apparently. I remember that I've read somewhere that even The Football Association in England complained about that programme, they said it scared off supporters of the English team.
If these supporters were black or Asian, then rightly so.
Poland and Ukraine aren't some f*cked up apartheid regimes to say such things.
But the programme never said they were. But you have no idea what the content of the programme was, because you haven't watched it.
And I'm going to repeat the questions you haven't answered yet:
- Were there any black football players playing in Poland interviewed?
I believe they were. From what I remember, a black Legia Warszawa player was interviewed. He stated that it wasn't safe for black people to go into the stadium.
- Why was Sol Cambell asked an opinion at all?
Because he was a black England player. His opinion was therefore relevant. Why should he have to go somewhere where his family wouldn't be safe watching him?
Was he ever in Poland?
I believe he'd played an international match in Poland.
Ifor:
And, so long as this is the case, then no, the countries concerned should not hold major international sporting events.
Major international sporting events? You mean not only football, but the rest too? lol
I was at European Figure Skating Championships in Warsaw, there were figure skating fans from all over the world, even from Japan and it was great, I had great time and there were no problems at all.
I was at the Tall Ships' Race in Szczecin. The Mexican crew in the tall ships' race got badly beaten when they went from Szczecin to Gdynia.
So, yes, I
do mean all sporting events.
If the Polish authorities cannot guarantee the safety of competitors at such events, then Poland shouldn't have the right to hold such competitions.
And I disagree with you. I don't think making a wall around Poland and saying "don't go there" won't help this country to become more tolerant.
And I remember the Tall Ships Race in Szczecin. And I remember how everyone loved the Mexican crew (they were the favourites in Szczecin). And I remember the facebook page 'Nie przepraszamy nożników Meksykanie' that quickly gained 5k likes. Don't worry Paulina, I have a long memory, and won't forget all this.
What I don't think will make the country more tolerant is pretending the thugs and far right in the stadiums don't exist (they do) and if a foreign broadcasting organisation tells the truth about this (and it was the truth) to stick a blindfold over your eyes and your fingers in your ears and scream:
IT'S NOT TRUE !!!!!
I'm very much afraid, Paulina, it
is true.
Just like many things that expats and British people in the UK write here on this forum. But once goofy shows up we can ask him where he lives exactly and check if that attack on Polish shop was reported.
I don't believe anecdotal 'man in the pub' stories whether they come from Poles, or from Harry, simply because they can't be proved one way or the other.