Western Europe is not Paradise after all (Polish doctors in the UK more popular)

The medical system in the UK wherebye everything gets filtered through a local GP (Doctor) is absolutely shocking, i much prefer the Polish system where you have a choice of affordable private or (on the state) health care.

Having said that, in the UK when you finally get to the required specialist for a serious illness like cancer the treatment is then more than suitable.

My daughter was recently perscibed antibiotics upon antibiotics for recurring tonsilitis, this contstant dose caused other problems such as mouth thrush, gingivites and other nasty ***** as the antibiotics were killing the healthy bacteria. This was a real problem as we were looking at having the tonsils removed which can result in death through blood loss. We instantly pulled her out of school and built up her immune system naturally for three months solid, lots of probiotics, healthy foods, hardly any contact with other children. She has been fine for over 6 months now. This was one hell of a lesson for us - antibiotics as a last resort only.

you are right WB - they are vicious meds that many people do not really understand

My friend living in London told me about it! xD I thought she was joking or sth...

She also told me that she was amazed at what the visits at GP look like - you go in, tell about your symptoms and the doctor... types them into the internet... and bases the diagnosis on what he/she finds there... o_O As you can imagine she had a better opinion about Polish GPs.

(Now, before you jump on her - she's an Anglophile, she loves the language and went to the UK not because she had to but because she wanted to).

And, yes, we are all acutely aware of the problems with health care in Poland, so don't bother :P I'm just repeating what she said, so don't kill the messenger ;)


Jon, I've lived in Poland all my life and I have never met a drunk doctor or a nurse. Seriously. Never.


Yes, doctors complain about it.


I always can get to the doctor in my przychodnia the same day. Unless it's a flu season then you have to be usually very early to get in.


You should always take probiotics when you take antibiotics!

I've read articles saying that antibiotics are being prescribed too often, that's nothing new, but now I googled and found something funny:

kobieta.pl/drukuj/artykul/ostroznie-z-antybiotykami


Dr Hanna Orłowska is saying that there are doctors in Poland who prescribe antibiotics too often and she adds that the use of antibiotics is even more common in the UK o_O

So what's the truth?

Apparenty thats common knowledge in Poland, not so much in the UK as we discovered.

The bribery system in Poland is appauling though - for the 'have nots'.

What I gather about Poland is that the bribery system works in a strange way - doctors are often given 'presents' that they don't even ask for at times.

I've always thought that Poland needs to introduce a blanket "no presents" for anyone working in the public sector. No flowers, nothing - it's the only way to get rid of the problem.

But certainly, for me, GP care is far, far superior in Poland than in the UK. I remember the last years of living there - I had to tell the worst lies to even to get an same day appointment, whereas here, there's no reason at all to lie.

Hmm, I can`t give up such presents as whisky, wine, beer and sweets.

Pawian, how do you do it? I only got flowers and sweets :(

Perhaps not, but I can assure you I wasn't dreaming. Amazing that the nurses didn't lock him in the room and call the police, but no, they were letting him see patients!

Yes, my mum gave coffee to the nurses when my grandma was at the hospital. She thought that thanks to that they would take better care of her, which I think is silly, but that's a communist mentality. It will probably change with next generations. I wouldn't give a bribe or "a present" to a doctor or a nurse, it would be too embarrassing for me... lol


Well, you can hear about such cases on the news on TV sometimes, so it's not like it doesn't happen at all lol, but I've never experienced it myself and I don't think anyone I know has either.

Likewise. I can understand coming afterwards with a small gift to say thank you - but during? Absolutely no way.

I remember one night getting more treatment than I wanted, but that's another story...

I get serious presents from private students (especially when I don`t rise the prices) while only flowers from school kids. :):):) And yes, once a got a leather bag from my class who was leaving school. Parents had decided so, nobody had consulted me and I could do nothing but to accept it.


Yes.
I never accepted presents from uni students before giving them exams - that would be an obvious bribe.

Well done on your Chemistry knowledge. What do you want, a cookie? Man people really don't have much to do with their life, if they feel the need to go and launch a scathing attack on someone over the internet, and rage about how they don't deserve any antibiotics.

and some people obviously have even less to do with their lives if they want to write an extensive post
on the nasty ignorant doctor who sent you away with no antibiotics, lol

I believe that this is a general topic on that, so my post was in the right place. Your attack on me is not as easy to understand though. Whether I did or did not deserve to get antibiotics seems to bother you a lot.

After a week, we came back to hospital for plaster removal by the kid surgeon. Registration, 1 hour waiting, first examination and removal, going to have another X-ray taken, second examination. We spent 2 hours and I was really impressed by their eifficiency. One novelty (I haven`t been to hospital for a long time) which I observed: they send X-rays over hospital network, but we got our CD anyway (the problem is I can`t open it at home).

Not bad.