Are Poles in UK really that big of a deal?

I don't care if the uk leaves personally. The economy will suffer greatly for a start. No one is getting a bathroom built for 12000 after their neigbour did it for 9000 As if they will cop it. The lazy pommie unemployed are not going to do those jobs and the useless skilless third worlders will also not be able to do them. Not going to talk about high end jobs as the pommies I have met who complain are not working with the high end poles as they are usually poorely educated.A guy I met here in oz last month who was complaining was for example a tradesman so he didn't finish school, he whined at me about it and said he came here from the uk because of that.

At the interview the manager asked what is the consequence of 3000 diff in the cost of the bathroom? He said it was that he was missing out. However, we confronted him with the fact that those people borrowed 9 instead of 12, they who were also english. So he lost 3 his countryman.gained 3. Also we pointed out the interest on that loan which was taken away from the bank due to lower price and pointed out the bank only paid 10% tax as they are corrupt anyway while the immigrant paid 20+%. So....more tax for uk, less debt for family with 3 kids, less profit for a filth bank scab getting paid millons already. Uk won. His mouth nearly dropped on the table. He was here 4 months and could not get a job, economy is rubbish here atm. After that the manager gave him my card with my polish name ( I am the owner) lol. He looked depressed he was desperate for a job his wife was threatning him after he moved them to the other side of the world to end up in strife. He just stared at it In shock thinking it's his 6th unsuccesful interview in 4 months. Ouch!

I gave him the job starting at 63k, a hilux work ute and a petrol card for work as well as the normal stuff required. He brought his wife and kids the next day to pick up car and sign everything. She looked so happy, the kids were cute little poms. It made me feel good Inside to see their lives changed. He has been with us 4 weeks now and is a great guy as everyone tells me. There was lots of ozzies who missed out we had 73 applications the advert ran for 10 days on seek but I don't regret it, quite the reverse.

So leave if you want gits.

Lol powderly I mean the umemployed who are actually lazy and dont want to work. I am not suggesting all or even most unemployed of any nationality are lazy and dont want a job. Now I got to sleep going in at 6.30 in 6 hours my eyes are going to pop out of my head. The boys are coming in at 7 going to bbq them bacon and eggs for breakfast in the warehouse as a surprise. Morale building, team building programne.

I don't want to leave the EU.
I also hate how we get generalised in as "the UK"
I'm Welsh.
A country with my own identity, my own language, my own culture.
I live in Scotland.
Politically Scotland is very different from England.
England is the country who want to leave the EU and unfortunately due to their larger population get the highest political say.
It makes me sad that this thread exists.
I believe that free travel among people should be as it is. Immigration is a good thing for the UK.
Immigrants pay more tax to us than a lot of our native people.
Immigrants contribute more to society.
Immigrants have a higher level of education than the average brit.
Immigrants prop up our NHS which is being crippled by English politicians who scare monger about it.

In fact the reason i'm trying to learn polish is so that I can provide better care for polish patients (I work in the NHS). Because getting interpreters delays care.

The recent election results really is like turkey's voting for Christmas.
And it's mostly English people who voted this way.
And I really hope we don't leave the EU, as do a lot of people in the UK.

The problem with the Poles in the UK isthat they were the first to be told that the UK citizens were lazy and didn't want many jobs - they believed the propaganda. This was always untrue.

When they came they took the low paid jobs required by the uneducated and the students etc. Also as at the time the pay was low for the UK, but higher than in Poland - it stopped any chance of further pay rises as all of a sudden employers had a source of cheap labour - so they didn't need to raise wages to attract employees.

Further to that - the Polish didn't understand many labour laws, so were easily exploited by employers and were overworked and manipulated. Again these became preferred to employing British workers who were not willing to be taken as fools and exploited by greedy employers. Some employers saw this cheap labour as a means to increase profits and sacked the British workers in order to employ Eastern Europeans. The Polish in the UK are now only becoming wise to how they were used and are seeing the same happen to other Eastern Europeans from Romania and Bulgaria etc.

I knew that there was some advantage taken by employers but not to what extent. I could have done exacly the same here last month buy did not. Hopefully brits realise what leeches their employers and bankers are which is not much different here but at least you are not becoming primitive which we are becoming for sure. we dont need 1 bilion poles to give us trouble, we have a government oc a combined iq of 93. Swap ya.

Brits tend to complain often and about everything. Seen a documentary about "Poles taking Brits' jobs" and there was a Brit currently between jobs. He was attending Job Centre+ while getting jobseeker's allowance. He got a phone number and an address of the employer that was basically waiting for this guy to give him a job. Brit said: "Whaaaa?! National lowest?! Ya must be kidding!" and refused. Lady from JC+ said this happens very often. In Poland one loses benefit rights after such refusal. Yet, everywhere I go I hear how those Poles steal jobs from natives. In 10 years the only benefit funds I claimed were two weeks jobseeker's about five years ago but I still pay taxes to "support" people like that guy or "disabled" persons digging and planting trees in their gardens in time between pretending to be wheelchair users (lots of them demasked in investigations similiar to what The Times did). And I thought we, Poles whine constantly...

Remember the migration has come at a time when employment rights, job stability etc have been eroded and that has played its part.

Get out of our country (edited) . You hoarde together like rats destroying our towns and cities. Get out now because the time is coming when we will take the law into our own hands and get you out by any means possible. You are not wanted here

Tell us all about it mr scumbags.

Iron, don't even bother :)

We will all leave if you accept all the third world immigrants coming to Europe, deal?

I PERSONALLY HATE POLISH PEOPLE BECAUSE EACH ONE I HAVE MET IS BASICALLY SCUM AND JUST USE THE SYSTEM THEY CAME TOO BECAUSE THEIR OWN PRECIOUS COUNTRY WONT PROVIDE FOR THEM , I LIKE EVERY OTHER NATIONALITY MORE IN COMPARISON BECAUSE THEY ARE THE WORST I HAVE EXPERIENCED THEY HAVE NO MORALS NO RELIGION EVEN IF THEY PRETEND TO BE CATHOLIC , DRINK LOADS, SPIT, FIGHT, STEAL, LITTER EVERYWHERE DECENT, TAKE OUR HOUSES, KEEP OUR WAGES LOW , THINK THEY ARE BETTER AND ARE GENERALLY CRUEL HORRIBLE COLD BASTARDS

Im not a Polish. I agree with you for UK or any other EU states but not for Poles who live in Poland. The worst ones generally work in abroad because they have nothing to do in Poland. If you come to Poland you can see different Poles who have culture, traditions and moral. It really depends on the person but I can understand you because in UK or The Netherlands diffucult to meet with well educated Poles.

OF COURSE ITS ACCORDING WHO THE PERSON IS AS MY DAD WHO IS OLD DAY PROPER NICE GENUINE DECENT ENGLISH SAYS BUT MAJORITY THINK THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WHEN THEY WANT- ESPECIALLY TO ENGLISH AND OTHER VULNERABLE PEOPLE AND NATIONALITIES E.G. SUCH AS ILLEGALS LIKE SOUTH INDIANS AND AFRICANS BUT BECAUSE POLISH ARE ALLOWED HERE NOW THEY THINK THEY ARE BETTER THAN SAY E.G. MOHAMMAD WHO HAS JUST ARRIVED OFF THE FERRY!! REMEMBER MANY OF THEIR GRANDFATHERS AND GREAT GRANDFATHERS WERE GERMAN SO ARE THEY REALLY THAT GOOD??? NAZI THINKING A LOT OF THEM ARE AND THEY ARE THE TRUE RACISTS BECAUSE THEY JUDGE AND DEGRADE PEOPLE ON THE BASIS OF THEIR SKIN COLOUR AND FACIAL FEATURES AND CULTURES EVEN E.G. AFRICAN AND TRIBAL MINORITIES WOULD BE LAUGHED AT BY THEM - NOT ENGLISH PEOPLE - SO HOW CAN ANYONE POLISH CALL ENGLISH PEOPLE RACIST ITS A TOTAL JOKE

MANY ENGLISH PEOPLE, AS WELL AS OTHER NATIONALITIES ARE ALSO HORRIBLE; EVIL EVEN, THEREFORE, IT IS UNFAIR TO CALL ANY 'ONE' GROUP OF PEOPLE SOMETHING E.G. 'ENGLISH PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO WORK' AND 'PAKIS ARE MUSLIM RAPISTS' OR 'INDIANS STINK OF CURRY' EACH OF THESE EXAMPLES ARE UNACCEPTABLE. I DO THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE RIGHTS FOR ENGLISH PEOPLE AND OTHER 'INDIVIDUALS' WHO ARE RACIALLY OR DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BY OTHERS THOUGH JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE 'DIFFERENT' - NOT JUST PROTECTED IF YOU HAVE AN ACCENT FOR EXAMPLE, AS MANY POLICE OFFICERS AND PEOPLE IN HIGH POSITIONS FEEL MORE SORRY OR FEAR BEING LABELLED RACIST IF SOMEONE WASN'T BORN IN THE COUNTRY ; EVEN IF YOU ARE BLACK OR ASIAN OR CHINESE BUT BORN HERE YOU ARE PROBABLY MORE UNLIKELY TO BE LET OFF OR FELT SORRY FOR COMPARED TO SOMEONE WHO WASN'T AND THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE

ALSO BRITISH PEOPLE AND OTHER RICH PEOPLE OF ALL NATIONALITIES WHO LIVE IN THEIR MASSIVE DETACHED HOUSES, SOMETIMES ON PRIVATE ESTATES EVEN, IN ENGLAND AND ELSEWHERE (GERMANY ETC) NEED TO GET OUT OF THEIR 'OWN LITTLE BOXES' AND EMPATHISE WITH LOW INCOME EARNING PEOPLE - ESPECIALLY ENGLISH POOR PAID PEOPLE AND SUFFERING MINORITIES WHO HAVE TO WORK LIKE DOGS TO BUY FOOD AS THESE RICH HIGH END EARNERS DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS LIKE LIVING IN FLATS AND BEDSITS AND CROWDED CRAMPED ACCOMODATION AND THE POLICIES WHICH THESE RICH PEOPLE MAKE HAVE RUINED OUR COUNTRY EVER SINCE THE SLAVE TRADE AS THAT IS WHAT STARTED IMMIGRATION IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE OF THE MISTAKES OF RICH WHITE MEN/ RICH MEN IN GENERAL THE WHOLE COUNTRY, N FACT WORLD SUFFERS BECAUSE OF THEIR DECISIONS AND ACTIONS WHICH ARE SORT FOR THEIR SELF GAIN, STATUS AND POWER

The problem with poles in England is that:

1. They're poles and they're poor
2. They're Polish or Eastern European ( even Pakistanis look down at anyone called like that)
3. Their country is a third world country, drunk people and their women are prostitutes
4. They steal English jobs and take earned money to Poland
5. They claim benefits for their offspring even they live in Poland
6. They're criminals
7. All prostitutes in England are Polish
8. They drive down wages in England
9. They abuse the NHS
10. Polish females aren't capable of anything else but breeding then claiming our English dole

And much more

That's what media in England were saying about Polish people since Poland joined the EU

THIS^^^
Bar a few exceptions, special circumstances, anyone with any kind of start or education isn't going to risk losing a few years by trying to make a go of things abroad. A decade ago or more maybe, but not now. Those with no skills and looking for an easy ride that the likes of the UK can offer, are the ones that are emigrating. Its pretty embrassing to hear some Poles on the streets of the UK. The good thing is you can usually spot them a mile away and avoid them. Poland is glad to be rid of this sort, while I suppose the UK isn't really bothered since its still usually supporting these folks with rich benefits, the likes of which they would never get in Poland.

Dunno dude made a **** load in China

We must move in different circles.

For a Polish science graduate, spending a few years at a univeristy of institute in the UK does a huge amount for their career. It attracts high fliers. If you scan through university staff webpages you'll see quite a few of Polish names.

Nursing and medical or dental care is another area - the UK has a chronic shortage of high skills in this area, so a well qualified Pole can easily find a job and make a good career. The UK NHS actively recruits from abroad.

The UK also has a shortage of programming and engineering skills, so again a Polish high flier can do very well.

So there are plenty of areas where highly qualified and skilled Poles are in demand in the UK, and make good careers.

Doesn't make the education system of the UK sound very good if they can't produced programmers or engineers in the numbers needed....

Terrible the shortage made me a few bob great if u ask me, they are more interested in games and facebook than to think of making a living of it. IT studies in the uk means you know how to use word and excel lol.

Well, yeah. That's part of the problem (dumbing down), though world class education is available if you happen to live near the good schools and get into the best universities.

A major problem is that kids don't choose those key subjects at university (you can't force them!). The other part is that growth in those areas is outstripping supply.

It actually suits the UK (or any country) to import skills that another country has paid to train. Polish graduates are generally good, if a little limited in horizons and lacking some flexibility. Very good English language teaching helps a lot.

If an ambitious, intelligent Pole comes to the UK on a Marie Curie Fellowshop for a few years, and gets into the top 20 universities (UK has about 180, but the top 10-20 are world leaders), they generally have a career for life. They can go to any other EU country, or back to Poland, and their UK experience is highly valued and the immediately go to the top of the pile for Polish grants and positions.

It's called being a free rider, not very morally edifying (the US is also very guilty of this). It's no way to actually decrease the gap between the developed and developing worlds...

Not by design, it's just the free market. If Poland wanted to stem the outward flow it could just pour investment into its universities and develop its own research culture, and talent would start flowing the other way. Researchers are internalists, they go where the grants and the exciting research happens. Engineers go where the exciting projects and the big pay is.

Polish universities and institutes are quite rigid, it's hard for international talent to go there (e.g. from India or even UK/USA, due to language and bureaucracy), and Polish university salaries are very low (even by Polish salary standards). That makes the UK much more attractive to talent, but this is something that Poland could change, because it's its own policies that create the push factors.