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Poland continues to milk Ireland dry.


Ireland32  2 | 172  
23 Aug 2009 /  #61
Simple question ...Why do you think Irish, or UK business owners and business leaders employ foreign labour, generally?

I would like to answer this one if I may.

I am a Manager at at Meat Plant in Ireland. We employ many foreign nationals simply because we cannot get local people to do the jobs and also because of a lack of skills. we employ Brazilian, Polish, Latvian, Slovaks, Ukranians, Lithuanians, Czechs etc because alot of them have the skills we require. Last May I went to Ukraine to interview 63 men who wanted to come and work in my factory. I went to see their skills and hand picked 12 on them to come over. They are still there and are some of the best employees we have.

Now that the good times are gone and jobs are scarce, those same Irish who left these jobs for bigger pay packets on the construction sites would like to think that these jobs are theirs by right.

Well im sticking with my Ukranian and other foreign national workers who have stood by me and who get the same rate of pay as everyone else in the factory.

I hope this goes some way to answer your question.
ZIMMY  6 | 1601  
23 Aug 2009 /  #62
Technically I am unemployed

I understand that a job opening is available for you. A Japanese Suma wrestler needs a man-servant to wipe his butt as this particular wrestler cannot reach around to do it himself. Health care is included.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
23 Aug 2009 /  #63
Simple question ...Why do you think Irish, or UK business owners and business leaders employ foreign labour, generally?

Cheaper and more docile.

Ireland32

If your Ukranian workers earn less than 30,000 euro per annum their work permits will not be renewed. As a manager, you should know the law.
Trevek  25 | 1699  
23 Aug 2009 /  #64
What did Ireland do to deserve this plague?

It sent the Irish all over the world.

Just remember, Ireland got a LOT of money from Europe for being a poor, underdeveloped, underpopulated country. Plenty of Irish (quite understandably) emigrated. When the economy began to boom, of course foreigners were going to flock there... it's just what happens when you become a success.

Any able bodied person who lives on benefits is a parasite.

Yeah, there used to be a lot of Irish doing it in Britain. Some of them were my mates.

RevokeNice:
the Irish government(Fianna Fail) had bought 3.5 million tons of carbon from.,,,bla bla Poland

SeanBM:
So what.
Says it all. Says it all Seany boy. You are a traitor.

Hmmm, so the Irish vote in a government which squanders its money... and that is the fault of the Polish people?
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
23 Aug 2009 /  #65
It sent the Irish all over the world.

Just remember, Ireland got a LOT of money from Europe for being a poor, underdeveloped, underpopulated country. Plenty of Irish (quite understandably) emigrated. When the economy began to boom, of course foreigners were going to flock there... it's just what happens when you become a success.

We didnt emigrate to Poland, did we you idiot? We emigrated to English speaking new world countries, like America, Canada, and Australia as did every european nation. We also emigrated to the UK, which we where part of at the time. We owe the Poles nothing.

Yeah, there used to be a lot of Irish doing it in Britain. Some of them were my mates.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Hmmm, so the Irish vote in a government which squanders its money... and that is the fault of the Polish people?

It is the fault of certain Polish people who rape the country and abuse its generosity, yes.
lexi  1 | 176  
23 Aug 2009 /  #66
It is the fault of certain Polish people who rape the country and abuse its generosity, yes.
RevokeNice
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The only people who are raping your country at the moment, are your own government, can't you see this?
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
23 Aug 2009 /  #67
Blaming the government, is some times a cop out. It gives some demographics a carte blanche.
Ireland32  2 | 172  
23 Aug 2009 /  #68
If your Ukranian workers earn less than 30,000 euro per annum their work permits will not be renewed

They earn more.......now feck off little boy. Is it not past your bedtime. Not to worry. school doesnt start for another week !
lexi  1 | 176  
23 Aug 2009 /  #69
Blaming the government, is some times a cop out. It gives some demographics a carte blanche

Not this time its true.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
23 Aug 2009 /  #70
They earn more.......now feck off little boy. Is it not past your bedtime. Not to worry. school doesnt start for another week !

You are some liar. There is now way in hell a meat packer earns 30,000 euro per annum AFTER tax. Manager me hole, you are a clown.

Lexi

The only people I have a problem with are eastern europeans, muslims and africans(not all blacks, africans). They are the groups that cause all the problems. I have no problem with yanks, central europeans, indians and chinese coming here, they integrate and immigrate in small acceptable numbers. Unlike the Poles.
Ireland32  2 | 172  
23 Aug 2009 /  #71
Blaming the government, is some times a cop out

well blaming the foreign nationals is the biggest fecking cop out i have heard yet. I am convinced you fall into 1 of 3 categories;

1. Your mother dropped you as a baby.

2. You were abducted by aliens

3. You have been brainwashed by some religious cult.

Either way I am beginning to understand how in the animal kingdom some mothers are prone to eating their young !
Trevek  25 | 1699  
23 Aug 2009 /  #72
We didnt emigrate to Poland, did we you idiot?

Funny, I met a number of Irish emigres in Germany in the 1980's and Finland in the 1990's. Not places where English is the national language... idiot.

Two wrongs certainly don't make a right but it also makes someone hypocritical to tar everyone with the same brush.

So, the people who bleed the benefits (and it's not something I approve of, we agree there) are the ones who persuaded the Irish goverment to shaft it's own people and waste it's own money? How do they have a stronger voice than you do?

A genuine question; when Dell came to Ireland (instead of employing lots of Texans), did they just roll up and say, "Gee, this looks a nice place for a factory?" or did they get a few tax incentives, rent deals etc from the Irish Government (knowing how Thatcher's government attracted the Asian companies to Britain) and the knowledge there was a cheap workforce?
Ireland32  2 | 172  
23 Aug 2009 /  #73
There is now way in hell a meat packer earns 30,000 euro per annum

They are not meat packers numb nuts. Do you think I would go to the Ukraine to hand pick Meat Packers. They are skilled boners and trimmers. I could get a brain dead prick like you to pack meat.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
23 Aug 2009 /  #74
Funny, I met a number of Irish emigres in Germany in the 1980's and Finland in the 1990's. Not places where English is the national language... idiot.

Did you meet hundreds and thousands of them? I doubt it, a couple of hundred maybe.

You will meet hundreds and thousand of Polish leeches if you visit Ireland!

Ireland32

Under new legislation non EU workers will only get a work permit after the following criteria has been met;

-They earn over 30,000 per annum after tax.
-No EU citizen has applied or is qualified to do the job.

You are breaking the law you stupid northern fool.
lexi  1 | 176  
23 Aug 2009 /  #75
central europeans,

How would you describe a central european?
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
23 Aug 2009 /  #76
Old EU countries.
SeanBM  34 | 5781  
23 Aug 2009 /  #77
RN was born with a silver spoon up his hole.
He is too young to know that Ireland was a poor country and blames anyone for his problems.
The truth is, even that statement is giving him too much credit, you have read his posts, you have seen his hypocrisies, he loves attention and will do anything for it, watch how he insults to provoke.

He is a boring little disturbed boy, nothing more, how do I know? he is here talking shite.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
23 Aug 2009 /  #78
RN was born with a silver spoon up his hole.

RevokeNice was born in a sitting room in one of Dublins last tenemants you traitorous prick. Everything I have I earned, I dont leech from society like your beloved Poles.
lexi  1 | 176  
23 Aug 2009 /  #79
well blaming the foreign nationals is the biggest fecking cop out i have heard yet. I am convinced you fall into 1 of 3 categories

I have number 4" refigerator mother syndrome", where the child is devoid of any love and attention from birth onwards, causing sever mistrust and anxiety in adult life.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
23 Aug 2009 /  #80
Hopefully the Irish youth will kick the saxon foe out of the country and then turn their attention on the foreign parasites. :)

Hows your Polish brasser by the way, Ireland32?
Ireland32  2 | 172  
23 Aug 2009 /  #81
Under new legislation non EU workers will only get a work permit after the following criteria has been met;

-They earn over 30,000 per annum after tax.
-No EU citizen has applied or is qualified to do the job.

You are breaking the law you stupid northern fool.

You are some fecking *******. The jobs were advertised. No one met the criteria or skill. Enterprise Ireland and IBEC assisted us in identifying the skill base we required. We do not break the law little boy. Now feck off. If you hurry you might catch the end of Ben 10 or Power Rangers.
Trevek  25 | 1699  
23 Aug 2009 /  #82
Did you meet hundreds and thousands of them? I doubt it, a couple of hundred maybe.

Exactly where in your previous post did you mention numbers?

We emigrated to English speaking new world countries, like America, Canada, and Australia as did every european nation... We owe the Poles nothing.

So, when you do what everyone else does, it's OK but when everyone does it to you it's different? You weren't part of US and plenty of Irish still go there and have been throughout the 20th century. What difference does it make if you speak the language. Plenty of Irish emigres during 19th Century didn't speak English either.

We also emigrated to the UK, which we where part of at the time.

What, during the 1950's? I may just be a stupid tan but I seem to remember that the 26 counties left UK in the 1920's.

Just a footnote, I have absolutely no problem with Irish emigration/immigration (other than some of the reasons many of them had to do it prior to the Republic). I'm trying to show you how flawed your own remarks are.
Ireland32  2 | 172  
23 Aug 2009 /  #83
Hows your Polish brasser by the way, Ireland32?

Doing alot better than your blow up doll !
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
23 Aug 2009 /  #84
Ireland32

You are a spoofer. You are full of it, you where on here around that time claiming the Poles took all the jobs and now you claim you where over in some eastern european shithole at the time recruiting more slavs? I say you are telling porkie pies.

Name your factory please.
Trevek  25 | 1699  
23 Aug 2009 /  #85
Hopefully the Irish youth will kick the saxon foe out of the country and then turn their attention on the foreign parasites. :)

Oh, did Santa bring you that nice blue shirt?
Ireland32  2 | 172  
23 Aug 2009 /  #86
You are a spoofer. You are full of it, you where on here around that time claiming the Poles took all the jobs and now you claim you where over in some eastern european shithole at the time recruiting more slavs? I say you are telling porkie pies.

I was not on this forum last year (may 2008) and Kiev is one of the most beautiful cities I have ever visited. I do not tell lies on this forum. I speak my mind maybe, but always the truth.

I will not name my factory. I have a right to protect my workers.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
23 Aug 2009 /  #87
Oh, did Santa bring you that nice blue shirt?

No, he left a plague of foreign leeches.
Trevek  25 | 1699  
23 Aug 2009 /  #88
Incidentally, revokenice, here's one to tickle your fancy...

A few years ago (before Poland joined EU) I was employed to teach English to a training course in north Poland. It was a training course for hotel staff, where young Poles were trained in a kind of 10 weeks boot camp to be hotel workers, kitchen staff, waiters and barstaff.

They then got a guaranteed year's work in Irish hotels and restaurants (with option to renew their contract). Funnily enough, they were paid less than Irish minimum wage.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
23 Aug 2009 /  #89
They then got a guaranteed year's work in Irish hotels and restaurants (with option to renew their contract). Funnily enough, they were paid less than Irish minimum wage

Good enough for them. I dare say it was better paid than any job available in Poland at the time.

My only concern is for my fellow citizens.
Trevek  25 | 1699  
23 Aug 2009 /  #90
I dare say it was better paid than any job available in Poland at the time.

So it's OK for foreigners to come and work as long as they get less than the Irish. And then you wonder why people leech?

My only concern is for my fellow citizens.

Then complain to Bord Failte, they sponsored and organised the course.

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