A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN"

im not sure that citing latin, french and german as one-time-but-no-longer lingua francas necessarily means that english will follow suit. that said, i dont necessarily agree that the role of english as the worldwide lingua franca is irreversible. i believe the future will belong to poly-linguists, which might not include the british. but we are not there yet

Neither Latin, French nor German were ever the worldwide lingua franca to the extent that English is. Its useful to learn French or German when speaking to those French or Germans who havent learnt English but this number is diminishing especially in the business community. neither languages are of any use outside of Europe. The fact is English is the 'default' world language. If an Indian meets a Dutchman, they'll speak English not German or Hindi.

And not to forget languages mix and change heavily over time.

The lingua franca in 250 years might be a mix of english/german/french/spanish and chinese due globalization and Internet! :)

and how much of that language do they remember when they leave school?

btw the most widely spoken language in the world is chinese :) english is second though, german 10th and polish 26th lol

photius.com/rankings/languages2.html

The dimension differed but in the time of Latin Rome WAS the world and Latin was long after their fall a most important way to communicate.

Much longer than english is.


And the Indian speaks english not by DEFAULT but due the colonial history and the British Empire. That goes for ALL english speaking countries outside the islands - they are not NATIVE languages!

Spanish speak English very well, they are very educated people and understand the needs of people living and visiting, manay Spanish speak German fluently too...but I guess because you get your info second / third hand without actually knowing anyone that lives out there you don't know these things...but that's okay.


Well, you see I realise you dont read the papers very much and now I know the kind of place you live..

You see, when the last major football games were on (you will have to forgive me for wrong terminology but I don’t follow football) the George Flag and the Union Jack were band in certain areas that were, let's say ethic majority - just in case it insited racism, in short, you know feck all about the UK and what goes on...


Really, I'm quite surprised at your answer....since you have all the attributes...

ive actually built on the 2 languages i learnt at school, and am able to communicate basically in a number more.

the additional language i speak strongest i didnt study at school at all

how about you?

Proof that the British Empire was a force for good. :)

what i said, i based on what i`ve seen, not read


looks like you don`t even understand what i mean lol i said that the british go to spain and are unable to speak spanish so that the spanish have to speak english to them. tu comprendes? i never said that the spaniards don`t speak english!


true true, mein deutsch Bruder :)


polish - native,
english - pretty fluent, taught at private english school and while being in england, german - elementary, learned at school, i like the languge but find it difficult

spanish - elementary, private lessons, i want to learn to speak spanish fluent though

what languages do you operate?

mainly swearing;) and the language of looooove......

lol

And isn't it amazing that both can be used at the same time, often in the same sentence?

yes. Speaking foreing languages is overrated.

especially if you`re a man.

Oh, but to be truly bi-lingual.


Maybe you haven't found the right man to teach you the key words of the language.

I think you need to speak to southern....

:-)

Overrated in what sense? Language is power. I count myself as lucky that I can understand basic discussions in different countries. French, Japanese, German and Polish being those languages. Japanese and Polish much stronger. It really aids things, especially as a teacher who can understand students better

Oh, lighten up Seanus. I was having a go at Bubba. I speak 3 fluently. Polish, English and Ukrainian. I undersand Russian well and some other Slavic languages.

I have studies German for 1.5 and some French and a wee bit of Spanish. Plus 2 years of Latin in high school.

Of course languages are very helpfull;).
PS. the weather is TO is terrible.

or maybe i have found the right man but all the losers i knew before him made me think that way :)

Continuing Education is a wonderful thing. Keep an open mind!

i do, not in the subject of love, however :)

i dont operate any languages but i speak europe's main 4 at a communicable level and 2 of the world's top 3 a lot better

in reply to M's comment i can swear appropriately in a number of languages but find if i call someone a fukin knut they normally get the gist. afterall, its not the words so much as the way you say it ;-)

Agree!!! I don`t think english people are stupid in general (some are, some aren`t) although they really tend to think that for knowing english they are freed to learn any other language just because it is wide spoken. It`s true they go to Spain and learn just what they really need on daily basis (I have a lot of friends in Spain who told me how english people act towards their language and I`ve seen with my own eyes as well). Even in this forum there are some english and australian people who live in Poland for quite some time and can`t speak polish. To me to learn and know another language goes much further than that. It`s a way to learn about culture, places, etc... Plus, I find rude if you visit some country expecting everyone there should speak english to comunicate with you.

speaking english means that you can largely understand and be understood worldwide. speaking portuguese or polish doesnt.


i find it incredible that people whose first language is not english and who communicate in english on this forum with other people whose first language is not english have the audasity to moan that english people dont speak more languages

one of the blessings of not speaking other languages is that you dont understand the bollocks that other people speak, unless of course they insist on speaking english

Sorry, I meant `not to learn`


Good for you!!! Porque vc nao vai a merda???????????????

lol i think i know what merda means :P

The English go on holiday, do they need to converse in depth with the locals? The Polish come here to work without knowlege of English...so what is your argument...you really are a stupid wigga aren't you...or should I say so you can understand "innit"!

And if English is such an under rated language, then why the hell do people all round the world have this over whelming desire to pay through the nose to learn it...hmmmm - might that be because they know if they don't speak it then they are somewhat limited in opportunites around the world...since as it's been pointed out English is a universal language!

tomar por culo jovencito chavalito, dos veses, y tu tata abuela tanbien

And english is just a german dialect anyway...so! :):):)

genau, and bratwurst mit kartoffel is just english bangers and mash... so! :-)

I heard the problem isn't with the PL in Scotland. The annual cost of alcohol misuse in Scotland was £110.5 million and the total cost to Scottish society is estimated to be £1.1 billion in an article I just saw.