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How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth?


isthatu2  4 | 2692  
10 Mar 2011 /  #61
No, and maybe there is a misunderstanding, but look again at hague's posts and tell me honestly that it is not simply trolling?

i disagree with most of what he says,but my point is,if he came on and spouted the usuall one sided ill informed crap about all oirish being jolly fiddle playing romantic oppressed revolutionaries and all english as effete devilish imperialist murderors then no one would have called him out.

I understand. I am not locking myself up thinking that things have not improved, because they have, yet, I also might have an idea what it was like in the past.

Do you also have an idea what it was like to run from smoke and dust clouds after a bomb went off in a cinema,shopping centre,pub,thearter etc ad nauseum? Do you have any idea what its like to live in a country,that because of what some Normans did nearlly a thousand years, that has a bunch of thugs are running around murdering civilians? Any clue as to what its like to live in that target country with a name that marks you out as one of the fellow countrymen of the said civilian murdering terrorists,and to sympathise with the cause but deplore the tactics?

The trouble is to a lot of us on here this isnt "History" but basically sh!t we all thought we'd seen the last of in the 1990s,its not abstract or even a case of "our grandparents were...." to too many of us it probably means friends and familiy or in somecases ourselves.
OP Teffle  22 | 1318  
10 Mar 2011 /  #62
if he came on and spouted the usuall one sided ill informed crap about all oirish being jolly fiddle playing romantic oppressed revolutionaries and all english as effete devilish imperialist murderors then no one would have called him out.

Well all I can say is that I would have - given that he is not purely a troll generally.

Obvious trolls like this Ireland4ever I would generally just ignore - or try to.

Goes without saying maybe but the converse stereotyping is equally offensive and inaccurate - that the British military are all noble brave principled soldiers facing up to an utterly ruthless, reckless and cowardly enemy that "only" (as hague said) murders women and children. It's just rubbish. The actions of the IRA (and the rest) are indefensible and the vast majority of Irish people think this way. Problem is, it seems (note seems) to me that many do not realise that the British military have plenty of civilian blood on their hands too - including, yes, women and children. And I'm not talking "history" here - I'm talking 20th century.

But I suspect that you accept that.

The whole thing has been unspeakably nasty to the core, on all sides. I'm only glad that things are much better now.
isthatu2  4 | 2692  
10 Mar 2011 /  #63
But I suspect that you accept that.

I do. But.........
Crow  154 | 9340  
10 Mar 2011 /  #64
How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth?

they would offer her a safe heaven when Russia occupy British islands. i understand that. Its ok.

Plus, i understand British royal family. They know about incoming re-direction of money/power flow in Europe and they hurry to take their positions. Now, considering that on Balkan-Baltic/Belgrade-Warsaw line, Poland seizing significant importance, British royal family (that lost all positions among Serbs), hurry to take at least some part of the cake, via Poland.

and, its ok. As i said, i understand that. Defeating foe is one thing. Humiliation isn`t necessary.
isthatu2  4 | 2692  
10 Mar 2011 /  #65
I'm only glad that things are much better now.

Here Here, God Save Ireland,God Save the queen......and gawd 'elp the rest of us :)

British royal family (that lost all positions among Serbs),

What positions amongst the Serbs you barnpot? Aside from giving the Serbian Royal family safe haven for 70 odd years......
OP Teffle  22 | 1318  
10 Mar 2011 /  #66
Here Here, God Save Ireland,God Save the queen......and gawd 'elp the rest of us :)

Ha ha - amen to that.
isthatu2  4 | 2692  
10 Mar 2011 /  #67
Im just glad Crow isnt an Irishman :) Sheesh,actually,from now on,Im going to picture Crow as ian paisley, might help me fight the urge to answer his posts with a serious reply :)
Crow  154 | 9340  
10 Mar 2011 /  #68
What positions amongst the Serbs you barnpot? Aside from giving the Serbian Royal family safe haven for 70 odd years......

We naive Serbs considered Britain and British royal family to be our allay. Then, we learned that Brits prefer friendship with worse Arab mujaheedines
hague1cmaeron  14 | 1366  
11 Mar 2011 /  #69
Dog with a bone

I will put that down as a 1 into the Hague bone column.
aphrodisiac  11 | 2427  
11 Mar 2011 /  #70
Do you also have an idea what it was like to run from smoke and dust clouds after a bomb went off in a cinema.

NO. I was never there and if you read my comment again you would know what I meant. You took it out of context, please stop yelling at me, I am not a little girl.

All I can say that conflicts such at this one has as many versions as there are people. Black and white is not something I am good at, but you obviously trying to paint it that way. I am not gonna bite.
isthatu2  4 | 2692  
11 Mar 2011 /  #71
er,score 10 out of 10 for A, missing the point, and B, trying to dig up a now resovlved debate....well done. and,er,who was shouting? isnt shouting WRITTEN LIKE THIS?
Crow  154 | 9340  
11 Mar 2011 /  #72
How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth?

give her some strong aphrodisiac Poles

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