Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom?

Cursing in panic, like "F**k me"

I'm sure you don't - but in your imagination I must be a devil. :)

Something else actually, but quite similar ;P

In Internet age we surely have more data to think about than it was in 1940. Watching how easily conspiracy theories about 'Katyn-2' are disproved now I actually start wondering how much 'Katyn-1' story is reliable?

"Davaj gnata" most certainly does mean "give me the gun." "Gnata" is common slang term for gun. If you ever left your prehistoric cave, you would know that. What kind of Rus are you? Convenient one?

Let's don't touch 'Katyn-1' . It was not an accident for sure...

Yeah, by going there you only prove your cretinism.

Yours is already proved...

I do not deny Katyn-1 but assume now that some of its aspects might be exaggerated by some Poles.

Would be good if the moron could get his lies straight....

Why are you even here, mendo? Read "Polish Forum."

Nobody said you were the only looney...

There is an old saying....amongst many Slavic peoples.

An answer to the question of how do you trust a russian?

Put your trust in your sword and the sword in the russian.

That is meant to only point out that there is no reason to trust the Soviet (Russian) state. They have never believed in individual rights or freedoms.

When it comes to the Russians they have earned cynicism.

Oh, my! The crusading p-patrol is out in full force! What a surprise. Why don't you get a real job?

You dont ;)

How poetically true it is!! And who knows better than Poles and Ukrainians...

Well, there was (and still is) so much mistrust between basically all neighbours in Europe and outside in history. Could anyone name at least two European countries that had never fought and/or hated each other sometimes? I fail to see any such.

I found PF as a place where I could express my condolescence to Poles.

And I stay here because I think people should talk to people - otherwise some trolls like you will replace the truth with propaganda.

Were you admiring your two-faced mug in the mirror as your wrote that?

Belgium and the Netherlands? I don't think they have ever fought each other...of course I could be wrong there too.

Of course Switzerland hasn't been involved in a war for a very long time, there are advantages to living on the top of a mountain range.

but sadly that may be the only examples.

Have you ever posted anything that isn't rude and aggressive?

O yes! Especially Bandera must be most loved by Poles.

Don't you want to make Stalin and Hitler your heroes? Why not? They prove your fobias and make your life exciting!

Oh yes they have fought each other. In 1830, when Belgium seperated from the Netherlands. And they weren't as friendly to each other for over 100 years after; in 1919 it became nearly a war, because Belgium claimed that the German troops in WW1 had passed through NL (through the Southern part of Limburg), with Dutch consent when attacking Belgium. The Belgians conveniently forgot that 90 per cent of the Belgian refugees fled to NL. Also they claimed the Southern part of the province of Zeeland, which lies actually on Belgian soil, to secure the harbour of Antwerp. Only after pressure of the UK and the US, Belgium didn't invade the Southern parts of NL. In 1927 there was another crisis about a canal that the Belgians wanted to dig from Antwerp to the Rhine, which had to run over Dutch soil. NL opposed this very fiercely (leader of this opposition was the guy who later became the leader of the Dutch National Socialist Movement, the Dutch Nazis), but it was nipped in the bud and the canal has never been dug. Only in 1934, under the thread of Nazi Germany, the two small countries grew together to build a common defence against any future thread. Things went pretty fast after that, despite the interruption of WW2. In 1949 the BeNeLux was formed, blueprint for the EU.

>^..^<

M-G (and we still make jokes about the Belgians)

Judging by time zones, all the Ruskis are out to play.

Polish Maj. General. S. Sosabowski - wasn't he another one to die in a plane crash?

were there others.....

how many Polish leaders have to die in plane crashes?

Olga check out this NY Post article.

Poland's Tragedy Russia's Gain

Thank you--that's exactly what I speculated in the "assasination" thread on page 15 with much evidence to back it up. PLEASE go there and check the links I posted--very eye-opening, indeed.

No, there is lunchtime in KGB building. ;)

Yes she is not alone. This black&white way of thinking is widely spread. Their twins are communists, radical islamists and any other fanatics - just with "+" or "-" marks. Keep them on their place - they are just war dogs.

I am almost inclined to think the Russians were lying in wait for the plane to come down with their guns ready for any possible survivors. As insurance.

Please go to page 15 of this thread and check out the video I posted where witness was being shot at just minutes after the crash.