SUNDAY WITHOUT MASS IN POLAND - Judaeo-leftist Wyborcza gloats

That's Anti Semitic and unfactual to say that Jews do, and you know it.

What kind of special attention? If it's derogatory and hate speech then I'd agree with you but if it's a fact that corporations, newspapers, film studios are owned by people of Jewish heritage who may also be practicing Jews then how can stating facts be classed as anti Semitic? If I say Israel is controlled by the Jews is that anti Semitic or am I stating a fact?

It's the connotation that "controlled" has; and anyway, we don't own the corporations, film studios, etc.. Even if we do, we're the head and not the tail again.

It's all about the way the term is used.

"Israel is a Jewish-controlled state" - this is stating a fact, and should be considered neutral; although it could become anti-Semitic if used in a certain way, e.g., "Israel is a Jewish-controlled state, so why are you surprised that the Jew media always supports Zionist tyranny?".

The way these things are stated here on PF are generally stated in an offensive and anti-Semitic way. Rather than just stating that that certain media corporations are run by Jews, the fact that these organisations are "Jew-controlled" is used to ensure that Jews are used as scapegoats for any problem/issue you can think of. If someone disagrees with a news report, it's "the corrupt Jew media". If prices rise, it's because "the greedy Jew is filling his pockets again". If there's a stock market crash, it's because financial institutions are "Jew-controlled". And so on.

In other words Jews are the new taboo. If you mention them you're singling them out and that is anti-Semitic. OK, If you want to believe that, fair enough!

Connotation? Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.


Forgive me if I'm wrong here but doesn't the "head" make the decisions and the tail does as the head decides? I have yet to see a tail that wagged the dog.

Exactly; and PF will do little to nothing about the Anti Semitism, yet I get into trouble for arguing--not fighting, merely stating arguments--from a Jewish Protestant perspective.


I'd explain it further, but I'd apparently be proselytizing if I did that.

PF does nothing about anti Polonism either. We have English, Irish, Scottish, German, Russian, even Norwegian polonophobes on here; would it be anti Semitic to say we even have Jewish polonophobes on here? Anyway, I digress, so, given the fact that this is supposed to be a forum to discuss all things Poland and Polish related and polonophobic posts are never removed, why do you think you are so special that you think that alleged anti Semitic posts or posters are removed?

Its obviously antisemitic to describe anything as Jewish owned because it implies that the owners are first and foremost Jewish rather than business people who happen to be Jewish


It wouldn't be taboo if you described all other businesses in the same way

Like anyone sane cares about who owns what.

I agree with delph, it makes no difference to me who owns what, I have better things to do with my time than research the ethnicity and religion of CEOs and major shareholders of large corporations. Now political allegiance, that's a different matter, I try and avoiding giving my money to those businesses who give huge financial donations to the British Conservative Party and the Republican party in the USA :D

The irony is, if a UK newspaper dared to write anything similar about Polish-American culture, Polonius3 would be the first to complain about "racism".

I can see the "Daily Mail gloats as 'Polish-controlled' pierogies warehouse burns" tagline already... :)

Don't see it myself. Anti Semitism is discrimination, prejudice or hatred towards Jews according to modern day definition of the word Semitic so simply describing a business as Jewish owned is not a statement of hatred nor does it imply prejudice or hatred. The only time I would define such a statement of ownership as being of an anti Semitic nature would be if it was spoken by someone who was already known for being anti Semitic eg David Duke.

Why mention it if it is of no significance to you

I never said it wasn't of any significance. I get fed up of people crying "anti Semitism" everytime someone says something that a Jewish person disagrees with. It is actually possible to disagree with and have an opposing opinion without being anti Semitic, racist or anti anything else for that matter.

On the contrary, the onus is on the gloater. Same with Wyborcza's delight at the downturn in Church attendnace. And it's not the first time. In fact they are the only major Polish daily that doesn't just objectviely report but tends to highlight anythign that puts the Chruch in a bad light.

Of course, it's a free country so they are free to do so. But others are also free to point it out. Freedom works both ways. The PC Wyborcza crowd applauds freedom fo speech primarily for all thsoe who agree with them but would gladly muzzle their critics.

You don't see them invoking a sense of fariness and appealing for a digital platform slot for Radio Maryja or criticisng the broadcasting authority for awarding such slots to unproven unknowns of questionable financial status and programme potential.

Is using such terms as Amerindian-owned casinos (in the USA), Polish-owned chain of petrol stations in Germany, Arab-owned this or that racist?
What about saying that a 15-million-strong ethnic group (Jews) wield disproportionate economic and poltical power and influence throughout the world.
One would think that it would be anti-Semitic only to urge that wealth being taken away from them or them being otherwise penalised by extra-constitutional means.

Jews: Murdered Jesus... hmmm

What about all of his disciples? Did you ever see the picture of the last supper. All of them were his loyal followers except one trator. 1 out of 12! But since they are Jews we should blame them fo the sins of one. That's like blaming all Catholics for all of the world molestation's.

I lived in Vegas, city of SIN, modern day Babylon, and worked as a bouncer on strip-clubs and nightclubs. Most strippers told me openly stories about how their dad, step dad, mother boyfriend raped them and their brothers. After a while when you are able to see it in people's faces it becomes hard to hide it. I have met many men who told me they were "molested" (it was a softer way of them telling me they were raped), and most men who were raped end up raping someone as they get older. I noticed a lot of people who have been afflicted by this evil, tel to become "born again" Christians, and I ended up working for the prison system here, and noticed a high number of Child molester proclaim they are "Christians".

You might think Jews are these evil Jesus murderers, but I must tell you, I'm a Jew, and my family is white Europeans. Didn't kill Jesus:o)

But I keep thinking to myself... The new testament was written in Greece. Guess what... Greeks were known for rape, incest, and homosexuality. Is it posible that this faith blaimed Jews for killing Jesus to divert their EVIL from the things they do. Hell, we killed one man, but a lot of Christians kill souls of many.

something to think about before you go and spew evil word towards other religions, because somehow I get the feeling if I look into your eyes, I will see more evil then in the eyes of a lot of those "Jesus killers". Just call it bouncers intuition.


Jews did not kill Jesus. You can't blame all Jews because one person betrayed then and a few in the Hierarchy wanted him dead. It was probaly about 10 people total who wanted him silenced, out of 100,000 and their descendants got blamed. Not to understand this just point to something non religious people are always trying to say: that religious people are just not intelligent. It's like blaming all Poles for the murder of Jews. Less then 0.1% of Poles hunted or killed Jews!

I read that at the time of Jesus's crucifiction, there were about 80 other crucifiction of preachers. Jesus was Just the most famous one. You wanna blame someone pic any religious church/ temple hierarchy and blame them. They are always trying to shut up any competing religion.

Teflcat did not say Jews murdered Jesus read the thread again.

Nickidewbear's post is ignorant on so many levels.


It depends on the context, why you would mention such incidental facts but not others such as waste size or shoe size for example

To me it sounds just as ridiculous to say the "corpulent owners of the newspaper" as it does the "Jewish owners of the newspaper" there is no need to mention it here it’s not relevant.

Look at thread #11

Better look up the word 'irony' in a dictionary.

If you are referring to me as being ironic, I do not hate anyone. Can't maintain the emotion long enough.

And jon357, so far you and Nikidewbear seem to be the ones including harry that most people in this forum seem to argue and hate with the most. I think I'm way behind the lines of hate. And if I do say something that upsets you or her, a lot of times it's responsive (oh well, I never said I was perfect). But hopefully most people notice by threads I start that they are not offensive and are positive in nature.

;o)

Oh dear. You still don't get it do you.

And by the way, irony is not the same as hate!

Please stop beating around the bush and say it.

No beating around the bush at all. Simple really. Teflcat was being ironic. See post #112.

Teflcat was being ironic cos of the thread title.

Oh, my bad!

I apologize to him, I didn't get that far into the topic after that ONE little frase that riled me up. hihihi

Hehe, no worries ;-)

Jews said they murdered Jesus. 'Let His blood be on us and our children' is what they were reported by the Evangelist as saying. And you can't argue with Scripture!

You carry on believing what your book of fairytales tells you, the rest of us will believe science and history.

Why can you not argue with scripture?

Simple question.