Mass immigration to Poland - article and response

Everyone, Poles, Russians and Germans got along for 790 years so treating the 120 years of turmoil as something thats normal shows your ignorance.

Muslims on the other hand were always hostile, always backwards, even the so called civilized spanish muslims had enough crap on their hands.


Then you're not talking for Muslim majority.

To be specific, I wouldn't unless I had due cause. Besides, harming others usually ends up harming you more.

Without citizenship?? I don't have Polish citizenship but I'm allowed to work here. Why can't they build themselves up to that? I think you mean ordinary residence, Sokrates.

OK, and what about Westerners who live and work in Islamic countries? By taking such radical steps, you directly endanger their lives through backlashes.

You only know one side of the coin, Sokrates. You don't know why they acted as brutally as they did.

£ódz, what's wrong with being proud? Pride is what keeps a spirit alive and well. You are thinking of nationalistic rather than proud and patriotic. What common wealth? There are growing disparities as the ruling elite tighten their grip. Debt is the new means of control and that's the commonality.

You speak like a globalist. The world wasn't built on one faith, on one set of ideologies, on one culture so what are you gibbering on about?

We can scan well the Muslim immigrants. Maybe more tighter security scannings. Behaviour checks. We can have phsychologists...

But there are people of other religions too...like Hindo, wonderful Bahais, christians...etc.

I am not anti-muslim either.

Muslim majority are not terrorists either. Well ... if they are having wayward sentiments... we can always check. But apart from that... there are more other people too!


It will go. Soon. Trust me! The world will have no option. No option but peace! No option but togetherness! No option but LOVE! :)

America, the leading intel network in the world, didn't scan too well, did they? Dangerous groups are popping up left, right and centre. It's our job to ensure maximum coordination of policing efforts. Otherwise, civilians will die needlessly.

£ódz, I think you've burnt too many aromatic substances today. Time to knock it off ;)

The world was build by ONE GOD.

That one God sent its Messengers, Guide, Book, Blessings from time to time... as one path leads to another path.... towards the desired destination...the goal....the meaning of life!

Our common culture is peace, love, emotion, hunger, curiousity, learning, spirituality, truthfulness, honesty, devotion, recognising God and His creation and purpose.... uniting and building this world together.

I am talking about things which only be heard by those with Ears!

This thread is so correct and well put.

Im afraid we are to late Poland is heading in the same direction. :-(

Prove it, £ódz!

'The purpose of life is a life of purpose'. I'll send you as leader of the welcoming party to the Mujihadeen Dove Brigade. Oh, and bring a translator that falsifies what you say as you'll need it ;)

All must.

Hear this everyone:

"The World Is But One Country And Mankind Its Citizens"


What you mean by saying that purpose of life is life of purpose?

I think it means that the purpose of life is to attain perfection.

Life starts when the soul from the heavens of God reach the womb where the human embryo takes shape. Our journey starts there, and we are born on this earth. We are thrown into a world of dust. Materialism everywhere. Here we strive for guidance, pursue satisfaction. This satisfaction can only come through happiness, and happiness is found in doing what we a supposed to do.

I believe we are supposed to develop our spirits. Our spiritual strength must increase and grow. The more clean and honest and spiritual we are, the more moral we are...the better we are on that eternal path towards perfection.

The path of perfection is eternal, because Perfect is only God. the journey to reach the nearness of God (which I believe is the true meaning of heaven) is the true source of joy, and the true purpose of life.

You probably learned all about "diversity" by watching a bunch of ex-drug dealers waving their arms around on MTV. It's not quite as "egzotyczne" or "cool" when you live next door to it, trust me ;)


omg lol, how about going to Saudi Arabia and demanding your "right" to move there, sleep with their women, or import a few Bibles! :)

Thats an excuse to kick them out not the reason.


If we could i wouldnt be talking extremes, its not because as you claim i'm racist because i'm not, its because i'm afraid of what these people will do once they can.


More then now? Already they're dying in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq etc.


Yes ours, i'm not looking for reconciliation because i no longer believe it possible, i'm looking to protect Europe at the expense of Muslims.


No, these riots with tens of thousands burning flags are just for sport.


I would obviously have double standards installed, nothing would change for white Europeans, christian arabs and arabs who live here for example for 4-5 generations or have citizenship and dont go into extremism.

We're talking about targetting specific groups within muslim community, this means basically targetting most of them but thats life.

What "specific groups", Sokrates? Define the time frame of 4-5 generations, please. How do you plan to protect them, Sokrates? Run out with a Superman costume on?

If you start throwing Muslims out randomly, they will start killing innocent people who live in Islamic countries. Yes, more than now.

Have you met any Muslims personally?

You mean the terrorist? Then what is the argument about? Go Go Go... take them to justice! But make it sure that we do not deport them...but bring them to justice in our system.... if neccessary even hang them! ... I am in favour of the Capital Punishment. But not deportation.

And why are we only talking about Arabs. I have no thoughts for them at the moment. I talk for the East Asians (koreans, japanese, chinese, thai etc), Indians, Bangladesh ppl, there are the mongols too! So many! So beautiful world we have. Such beautiful people we have. All our own.... all citizens of the world. Doesnt this make you happy?


No. Thats why I told. We can hang the capital punishment deserving criminals :) and imprison (even use iron fists) against criminals deserving and having links with terror. This will help us more than being foolish enough to hand these guys over to their leaders! And afterall they are our people now (as they immigrated).

How dare Islamic countries kill our innocents who visit them? If the government cant cntrol its terrorists (who might try to kill, just as they kil their own)....then we can close ties with that government.

£ódz, you preach oneness but you are clearly showing the difference in behaviour between some men and others. Haven't you noticed that preachers tend to live sheltered lives?

Yep, great people. Then they took part in a demonstration where they burned british flags.

I learned that muslims are not that different from russians in that particular regard, on a personal level they're great sincere people but when push comes to shove these great sincere people will blow your brains out if ordered.


Extremists, people participating in forced conversions, calling for sharia law or pulling down crosses from walls, basically all groups that attempt to assault our ways or instill the more offensive bits of their culture/religion.


Simple if the Arabs grandparents would have citizenship he'd be exempt from the new limitations (unless he became an extremist).

And no there is no way of protecting our people in muslim countries but thats a sacrifice we'd have to make.

For example? Between terrorists and good people? YES.


I am not a preacher. I am a practitioner. I practice what I say... and I express my feelings. What I said is nothing new. But its the picture of newness.

I propose to sign agreement with Russia. Over there in Siberia is tradition of labour camps. It would apply to all native serious criminals as well.


This is nonsense. How to solve the "problem" with polish Tatars?

I thought we were all men under God, one big happy family. Was I wrong? ;) ;)

Sokrates, they are taking a stand against the policies of the British government.

Those groups are the minority. If ordered, yes. That's diffferent.

£ódz, you have a very optimistic view of the world if you think that the majority are good people.

Euro-left so keen to let Muslim in, in the same time target Christians. Those are riders without head, because if radical Muslims would ever gain the power in Europe, they would be the first on the list to behead! :)

Who really wants them now, apart from their own kind? What Euro-left people are you referring to, lesser?

They beheaded Piotr Stanczak and he seemed like a good man. That merited a special GROM operation to catch those responsible.

If you would analyse voting records of legislations concentrating on immigration policy in different states with large Muslim minority, you would find out that this is job of the left. In Scandinavian states there is hardly any right-wing party in mainstream politics. I recently read about elections in Norway and all elected were socialists, communists and greens... By the way, my condolences to all sane Norwegian people :)


This is is something else, he entered their territory and was aware of such threat. He got invader treatment. Such a civilization...

That's true, lesser. They have been champions of socialism for many's a year. This has worked against them here.

Well, he wasn't an enemy combatant to be fair. He was there to do a job and not get in their way.

Naive immigration policy is not the worst fault of socialism. The worst thing is that local societies are unable to defend themselves, they are so used to expect help from government that nothing can save them in longer run.


Yes, but they see it otherwise and he was aware of it from the beginning.

I agree on both points. Dependence on the state becomes the norm. They either sink with the state or swim with the state.

Stanczak should have known better, that's for sure. No contract is more important than life itself.

In a normal society when immigrants would be known from raping girls and police would be unable to solve this problem, initiative would be born from the bottom. Group of native boys would solve them problem the best they could, some immigrants could be unjustly attacked but in the end local culture would survive. In a socialist state, the state is the only hope.

Yes we are, somewhere up there we're probably all equal and the same but down on earth we have races, nations and religions better, worse, malevolent people et cetera.


Polish tatars are Polish in every respect even ethnically they intermarried, even those who practice Islam cannot be counted the same as Western muslims since these guys have the same approach to the religion like most of us do, its a link to the tradition but thats it.

You cant compare Polish Tatars who are after half a thousand years as Polish as every other Pole to Western muslims.

For example Henryk Sienkiewicz is a descendant of the Tatars, you cant get anymore Polish then that, thats a completely incomparable situation.

Well, there was an experiment in Sweden where some former criminals, as part of their reform program, had to assist the police in finding criminals. They could use all the state apparatus together with willing locals to defeat the infidels.

The survival instinct just needs to kick in.

Well I am Norwegian and I am pissed off! I did not wote for this scum and nothing will be better now for sure. Four more years of this tragic government. I thank you for condolences, because this government will drive us in to a deeper shithole of a meltingpot. And sooner or later meltingpots boils over. It is just a matter of time.

Sometimes I feel like a stranger in my own country, and in Oslo there is a school (Mortensrud) with 97% (!!!) immigrants.
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Sometimes I have to go there while I am at work to deliver books and other things, and I can not stop to wonder how this could happen. All I know is that I do not like this. More potential robbers, rapists, gangmembers, drugdealers and so on is what I see in this kids.

Actually when I for example travel to Poland or an other eastern european country I feel more at home than in my own country, even if I am 100% Norwegian. This is due to the reason that I feel more comfortable around other europeans and that they are not so different from us Norwegians. It is always a big dissapointment to come back to Norway and the "kebabstreets" after spending time in a country without the non-western mass immigration.

So please Polish people do not make the mistakes that the western europe has made. Please learn from our mistakes. Trust me you will regret it if you don`t. And my friend if you think that non-western immigration ain`t going to cause any problems in your country, well then I am sad to say that you are a very, very naive person.

Kenneth, I sympathise but who does the hiring? Private firms and not the government. They are invited by white Norwegians to come and work for them. When introducing sth new into a country, you should monitor the situation as it is a new entity. You'd've seen that things were not right had you done that.

There are not so much immigrants who are invited for work these days. Many Swedes go to work in Norway. But the rest of the immigrants are mostly refugees from 3rd world countries, who try to escape war and similar situations. The problem is that some countries (Sweden, Norway etc.) had to take almost all of them. Other countries didn't help us with that at all (eg. Finland).

Well Seanus like SzwedwPolsce said, there are not much immigrants who are invited for work theese days. The non western immigrants are more likely to life of Norways welfare system, just like leeches suck blood from their hosts.