Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.

Please do so; I'd like to join protests supporting a law requiring Polish citizens to be only Polish citizens. Hopefully those demonstrations won't be at the same times as the demonstrations in defence of democracy here that I'm also committed to going to.


Sorry, son, but my African citizenship isn't South African and I can't go back to that country.

However, what I can and will do is carry on working to make sure that Poland is the best country it can be. You're more than welcome to join us in our efforts.

Right, here's the latest list of demonstrations :

Updated list of demonstrations, as of 18:00 on 18/12.

Public demonstrations organised by KOD - Saturday 19 December at 12:00 (local time) unless otherwise mentioned.

In Poland

£ódź : plac Dąbrowskiego
Poznań - plac Wolności
Kraków - Rynek Główny
Bielsko-Biała - at the memorial REKSIA - on the corner of ul. 1 Listopada / Stojałowskiego
Gdańsk - Długi Targ
Bydgoszcz, Stary Rynek
Torun, Rynek Staromiejski
Elbląg - next to the Cathedral in Starówka
Zamość - Rynek Wielki
Częstochowa - plac Daszyńskiego (at 11:45 rather than 12:00)
Legnica - Plac Słowiański - 12:00
Lublin : Plac Litewski 1
Wrocław - Plac Solny
Ełk - Mickiewicza 15
Katowice : Urząd Wojewódzki in Katowice.
Szczecin : Pomnik Trzech Orłów (Monument to the Three Eagles)
Warsaw: ul. Wiejska - at the Sejm.
Białowieża - corner of Waszkiewicza and Parkowa.
Zielona Góra - outside the town hall (Ratusz) in Stary Rynek.
Koszalin - Rynek Staromiejski.
Tarnów - Rynek
Grudziadz - Rynek Główny
Kielce - Urzad Wojewodzki

Abroad

Berlin, Embassy of the Republic of Poland in Germany, Lassenstrasse 19-21
Brussels - the Polish Permanent Representation at the EU - Rue Stevin 139/Stevinstraat 139
London : Embassy of the Republic of Poland in the United Kingdom, 47 Portland Place at 12:00 local time
Toronto - Consulate of the Republic of Poland in Canada - 2603 Lakeshore Blvd West.
Toyko - Embassy of the Republic of Poland in Japan, 2-14-5 Mita, Meguro-ku, Toyko 153-0062 at 15:00 local time.
Hamburg - Consulate-General of the Republic of Poland in Germany - Gründgenstrasse 20
Lisbon - Embassy of the Republic of Poland in Portugal, Av. Descobertas 2 at 11:00 local time

That's the list that I have so far, although there might be some that I've missed.

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Final time - we welcome anyone and everyone to join us tomorrow in solidarity against the actions of the current government and President. This is a broad, non-partisan, non-party citizen's movement, open to all that wish to join us.

(mods : could you add this to the list, please?)

New York - Consulate General of the Republic of Poland in the United States of America - 233 Madison Ave.

To all who wish to engage in anti-government subversive activities.
SUBVERSIVES OF POLAND AND BEYOND -- U N I T E !

If it's a choice between supporting a Polish government that is acting illegally or defending the rule of law and the constitution in Poland, I know which side I'm on.

Likewise. Supporting a government that openly refuses to comply with the law is unthinkable.

It's worth pointing out that both decisions of the Constitutional Tribunal have been published now, yet Duda continues to break the law. That's exactly why we will be out on the streets tomorrow.

Expecting a big crowd in Katowice tomorrow. Pretty much all of my Polish friends are going, ages ranging from 22-65. There's about 20 of us meeting there. Looking forward to it. Met some of them today for lunch and they were almost frothing at the mouth of what that dingbat Macierewicz did last night. I'm looking forward to seeing the NATO and Slovak response in the coming days.

Any normal country and he'd be fired by his PM straight away. But....well.....y'know XD

You don't have to wait anymore. The response was already released.

Thanks for being so helpful and post it :)

Slovaks


In other words.....we're waiting, but by Jebus, we're Pi$sed off.

There hasn't really been anything from NATO. So we'll wait and see. Maybe they'll pull out of the event Warsaw was due to hold during the summer.

General opinion seems to be that NATO will simply go very cool on Poland.

Yet more reason why we need to be out there tomorrow.

Then I'm happy :)
Hopefully those missile sites will now never be built :)

polskatimes.pl/artykul/9207152,zamieszanie-wokol-wydarzen-w-cek-nato-kwatera-glowna-sojuszu-to-wewnetrzna-sprawa-polskich-wladz,id,t.html

"That facility wasn't certified by us. This is Polish internal issue" - that's what NATO official actually said, the rest was manufactured by wild imagination of pro-regime activists.

And yet again greggy gets caught fibbing
act.nato.int/nato-welcomes-its-24th-centre-of-excellence

Care to actually quote anything that actually was released by NATO HQ, which would be not in line with my previous post ?

That's not what the article you linked says dude

We can see you're revving up for a nice punch-up. Dont' forget the Molotovs!
Maybe you'll finally get to see the blood in the streets you're so looking forward to. If so, your firebrand rhetoric will have contributed to that state of affairs, Adrenalin forever! And say "hi" to Petru when you climb up to the roof of the bus.

As we can see, PiS supporters are hoping for blood on the streets and violence tomorrow.

At KOD demonstrations, anyone with offensive banners or covered faces will be asked to leave.

What happened to freedom of speech and freedom of expression ?
They don't have such things in Poland ?

Pot, I'd like you to me my friend kettle.

polskatimes.pl/artykul/9207152,zamieszanie-wokol-wydarzen-w-cek-nato-kwatera-glowna-sojuszu-to-wewnetrzna-sprawa-polskich-wladz,id,t.html

So please kindly translate it word by word.

Stop flaming, the last warning.

Tomorrow. 12:00. Be there.

Would't go there even if they paid me.

People who acquire dual citizenship at birth are unique in that each government treats them as exclusively their own citizens. It is a bit different when one chooses to become naturalized and accepts a new citizenship. Since it is not always possible to serve two sovereigns, the new sovereign typically demands a renunciation of sovereignty to the first. Since it was a choice, not a birthright, there is nothing "democratic" about a right to collect as many citizenships, passports, and election ballots as possible. In fact in the modern E.U. it is actually very undemocratic to allow some people to vote in multiple national elections. Stalin would appreciated that very well, since he remarked that a person who votes decides nothing, but those who count the votes decide everything. As long as the E.U. persists in creating an elitist transnational group of citizens with superior "human rights" to the ordinary national citizen, there is nothing egalitarian about it, let alone "democratic".


If you foreigners are really so dissatisfied with democracy in action in Poland, please go to these demonstrations abroad, don't return and don't the door hit you in the dupa on the way out.

Pa pa!


Who said anything aborat protests? That is for your foreigners in Poland.


Do you have a warrant out for your arrest there, or do the locals no longer approve of their former colonial masters?


Considering what Stalin did to both citizens of the Second Polish Republic, and ethnic Poles and Catholics across the border, Poland's obligation is to repatriate them, not grant citizenship to a bunch of Brits here for the cheap beer, and certainly not potential terrorists. There is nothing "right wing" or authoritarian about Poland taking care of its national interests and favoring ethnic Poles over foreigners who don't want to assimilate with Polish culture, insult its history, etc.

Today's the day! And the final update at 08:00.

Public demonstrations organised by KOD - Saturday 19 December at 12:00 (local time) unless otherwise mentioned.

In Poland

£ódź : plac Dąbrowskiego
Poznań - plac Wolności
Kraków - Rynek Główny
Bielsko-Biała - at the memorial REKSIA - on the corner of ul. 1 Listopada / Stojałowskiego
Gdańsk - Długi Targ
Bydgoszcz, Stary Rynek
Torun, Rynek Staromiejski
Elbląg - next to the Cathedral in Starówka
Zamość - Rynek Wielki
Częstochowa - plac Daszyńskiego (at 11:45 rather than 12:00)
Legnica - Plac Słowiański - 12:00
Lublin : Plac Litewski 1
Wrocław - Plac Solny
Ełk - Mickiewicza 15
Katowice : Urząd Wojewódzki in Katowice.
Szczecin : Pomnik Trzech Orłów (Monument to the Three Eagles)
Warsaw: ul. Wiejska - at the Sejm.
Białowieża - corner of Waszkiewicza and Parkowa.
Zielona Góra - outside the town hall (Ratusz) in Stary Rynek.
Koszalin - Rynek Staromiejski.
Tarnów - Rynek
Grudziadz - Rynek Główny
Kielce - Urzad Wojewodzki

Abroad

Berlin, Embassy of the Republic of Poland in Germany, Lassenstrasse 19-21
Brussels - the Polish Permanent Representation at the EU - Rue Stevin 139/Stevinstraat 139
London : Embassy of the Republic of Poland in the United Kingdom, 47 Portland Place at 12:00 GMT
Toronto - Consulate of the Republic of Poland in Canada - 2603 Lakeshore Blvd West.
Tokyo - Embassy of the Republic of Poland in Japan, 2-14-5 Mita, Meguro-ku, Toyko 153-0062 at 15:00 local time. (thank you Tokyo!)
Hamburg - Consulate-General of the Republic of Poland in Germany - Gründgenstrasse 20
Lisbon - Embassy of the Republic of Poland in Portugal, Av. Descobertas 2 at 11:00 local time
New York - 233 Madison Ave (12:00 EST)
Oslo - Nobel Institute - Henrik Ibsens gate 51

Join us at 12:00!

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This is nothing. Wait till you see the demos KOD has in store for 24th December!

The same excitement of a child going to their first circus.
Demonstrations are for a way to let people vent their frustrations but are soon forgotten.
The biggest hammer always wins and these protesters are not holding that hammer.

You're a thousand miles away and they don't pay people to go anyway.


Another good turnout in Warsaw.

Saturday's protest rally in Warsaw looked quite pathetic. Holland complained about living in poltical smog due to the curtailment of democracy. That was ridiculous because the demo went ahead undistrubed.

Kijowski a relative nobody got his big chance to become an overnight celebrity and is now calling for anti-govt committees to rise up all over. PiS-bashers of the country unite!

Following in the footsteps of his Cominterm* daddy, Michnik is also engaging in his own form of subversive activity by whipping up unimaginably vicious hatred towards the democratically elected government.

Across his front page he splashed the bombastic headline: MACIEREWICZ ATTACKS NATO. Seeing imminetn defeat PO not only hastily appointed judges to the TK to retain their monopoly but also stuffed a newly created NATO research unit with their own cronies. The new defence ministry simply wanted to replace the PO-oldboy staff. And NATO officially stated that was an internal Polish matter. But to Michnikite propagandists, if the truth is lacking, so much the worse for the truth.

*Stalin's international organisation which operated subversive cells in countries round the globe.

The only thing that's pathetic here is your blustering attempt to defend the indefensible.

Meanwhile the pro-democracy rallies continue. What surprised me is the number of people here today who would never normally come out on the streets to protest against anything. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, scientists, retired people - all normally conservative in outlook and all united in a common cause

And all you can do is rant about Stalin. To use your own term, "pathetic"

Why don't the KODites finally fess up and tell it like it is. PiS are not threatening democracy but working to ensure that the benefits of economic progress are shared more evenly. That is preceisly what the pro-bankters lobbyists wish to prevent. Their stranglehold over the Polish economy is sacred and cannot be questioned.

The government are not eurosceptical but eurorealistic. Like Britain, Poland support the EU as a confederation of sovereign states, not organisational units of the eurocratic Brussels Behemoth.