Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.

I can't believe there's still people in Europe who believe that any country that's joined the EU lives in a democracy.

Dumb goys.

So if the EU is so terrible, why is the UK going to vote on June 23rd to Remain?

Facts? I well remember Poland before the EU, and what Poland would be like if Kaczynski and his cronies were allowed to run wild, uncensored.

If the EU is so wonderful, why is the UK going to vote to remain in it? Just to confirm that the EU is wonderful?

exactly pane. That`s correct. Level of obedience is much more important condition then level of democracy or democracy at all.


yes, horribly deluded

This is key; the effect of EU membership (and the EU is popular in Poland) has been huge.

Those here who rather stupidly suggest that there is some sort of issue with lack of freedom should ask themselves this question; what has the EU ever stopped them doing?

The effect of EU membership (and the EU is popular in Poland) has been a huge loss of sovereignty and the dilution of national identity. Poland does not want to leave the EU but as a member state intends to help shape the bloc's future in the direction of a loose voluntary confederation of sovereign national state, rather than a Brussels-ruled United States of Europe. Countries should be free to opt-out of EU directives that do not serve their national interests. Ireland has opted out of involvement in any future EU military alliance, Britain as regards labour laws and Poland in family matters (pro-abortion and pro-homo stuff).

When countries such as France viołate EU agricutural policy they do not get called on the carpet the way Poland has over the TK issue. Perhaps zat is because zey have no snitchairs comme par ecemple M. Schetyne & M. Petroux!?

Didn't we recently read something about not using deliberate derogatory names for public figures in an attempt to bait other members? Those two men are widely respected for their work in Poland in defense of democracy. Or at least I assume you refer to Schetyna and Petru, it's a bit hard to tell, as you have deliberately mis-spelled their names. Are you referring to Schetyna and Petru?

Et oui, M. Polonius has mizpelt ze names to give zem an elegante French look. Francja-elegancja, you see.

Bien sûr! Highly respected by the KOD crowd of post-PRL military brass, ex-PZPR functionaries (mostly now in SLD or PO), PO losers and other pushed away from the feed trough by the Polish voter with some assorted old hippies of the Kijowski ilk thrown in.

Janda has been especially critical of PiS. Why? Under PO her private theatre got a 1.5 million złoty govt subsidy, now it is only 150,000 zł.


The PO scamster govt slid its way through two terms in office thanks to their clever rhetoric and slick and slippery MO. People finally cauight on last October and showed them the red card. As an oppostion grouping they are continuing their old tricks. According to Kijowski: "PO was superbly prepared for the 7th May march. They organised 300 busloads of marchers from all over Poland and brought in 15,000 people. They also invested in bilboards and the media to publicise our march."

Merged:KOD defends post-PRL "arrangements", not democracy -- junior MP

During children's day in the Sejm, a young teenager Krzysztof Dąbrowa addressed parliament and asked (the opposition): "What are you defending? Tell me. Arranegements rooted in PRL? Your fat SB pensions? Because you're certainly not defending freedom or democracy, as you claim. A free state is one free of taxes and bureacracy with a market based on national capital."

Even at his tender age young Krzyś is a helluiva lot brighter than the KODerasts and many posters on PF.

I wonder who wrote his address for him - or did he speak extempore? That would take a bit more work alright, Mama and Tata would have have to rehearse him thoroughly. He's starting the right way for a political career anyhow, do any of them ever write their own speeches?

It's sad when adults work out their trauma though their children. Poor kid has terrible parents.

Jealous that he's a tad more on the ball than you and other pro-KODerasts?

Fixed your post bro

You're welcome

Also, Children's Day was like a week ago, old new, boring. Try staying up to date a bit more.

Is that a derogatory name you are applying to public figures in order to provoke a reaction?


Clearly the opposition in Poland needs to defend the rule of law and the constitution: Chairman Kaczynski doesn't give a jot about either.


Is that a derogatory name you are applying to public figures in order to provoke a reaction?


Might he be referring to people who used the dodgy connections they made during the commie era in order to purchase state-owned property for a song. I wonder if young Krzys also supports taking such properties away from such people.

I'm no more a member of KOD than I am of the PiS party.


Lemme fix 'at one for ya, pardner!

The PiS scamster govt slid its way into a general election victory thanks to their clever manipulations and bait and switch campaign (vote for young christian democrats and get a boxload of toxic, crazy old people). People are finally catching on and will probably show them the red card well before their term in office is scheduled to end. As an oppostion grouping they will continue their their old and socially poisonous tricks.

How do you knwo that? Teenagers to you are all stupid pimple people incapable of thinking who do nothing but text and play computer games?

I met him once, he's a tossbag


Nope, not at all, teenagers are the future, you sir are the past.

I agree, and the future looks brighter every day, as the youngest Poles are the biggest backers of patriotism, family values and wholesomeness. The day when it was cool to be a leftist libertine is fast fading and are most widepsread amongst those of late-middle and pre-retirement age like yourself. PO lost in every region except the two Pomeranias, but even there the youngest voters backed PiS. More and more teens are taking an interest in Catholic and patriotic organisations, riflemen's clubs, self-defence units and historical re-enactors' groups. It is libertinism that is going out of style in Poland, and those who don't realise it can't figure out what's happening.


pro- does not imply memebrship but support!

I support the rule of law.

You support the rule of party leader.

That's all there is to it.

How do you know Smurf's age??


Sounds more like America than Poland. Anyway what do you mean by self-defence units? Do you mean vigilante militia or what?


Was it ever in style? Really Polly, Poland missed out on the whole social and cultural revolution of the 1960s due to being part of the Eastern bloc. Of course there were always small pockets of that kind but the nation as a whole didn't experience anything like the shift in attitudes that occurred in the west from the 60s onwards. Note I didn't mention the sexual revolution because it seems to me that they've always been a bit free and easy in that respect. They like to keep an air of outward respectability but they're not that prim and proper no matter how much they rattle their rosary beads.

no, you're wrong there Ted, your way is the wrong way, the grreat thing is you'll be dead when Poland finally becomes the forward-thinking free country that it's destined to be


I love the way you can just say sh!t and expect people to believe you without even offering a shred of evidence.
I no more believe you than I do the sh!t that comes out of Donald Trump's fake-tan mouth


Here here, he's basically a card-carrying cult member. Waco Texas is where he should've been


Bah-hahahahaha, wow, I'm nowhere even close to that.


Haven't you seen these guys?
Basically rednecks with crappy tattoos playing airsoft on the weekend to escape their crappy lives living in backwaters in bieszczady and the like

PRL also supported the rule of law...so did Stalin!

You are digging yourself into a deep hole.....

Various formal and informal paramilitary youth groups.... Yes, luckily Poland remained largely unscathed by all the hippy crap, as a result it is far less debauched than the West. Now that there's a decent patriotic and traditon-minded govt at the helm, things are looking up. The more so that it's the youth that support PiS the most.

Naw, you're grasping at straws now buddy, they made and controlled the law, the function of a constitution court is to make sure laws are constitutional, PRL and Stalin just made their own laws willy-nilly with no checks.............exactly what PiS want to do


more horsesh!te

Are any of them called Kaczynskijugend? Although at least such an accurate description would be good for getting more protesters out on the streets.

What


And you know the TK was created by the sterling, exemplary democrat Jaruzelski!

Atch: was I far off the mark re Smurf's age?
What about Harryjugend? They both use an "H" name!

Well he's got a better record than a certain JK I could name.....

Of course he does. Delcared war on his own nation, killed, maimed and imprisoned thousands... What have you been drinking ro snorting?

I'm so glad you agree.