Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.

You think we're going to allow them to destroy our democracy and Constitution? As if.

Could you be so kind as to keep your insults in the bin. This is a thread for discussing "Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy", not off-topic ad hom trolling which we have already been warned about in this thread.


I hear that Plock will be added to the list as soon as the location is finalised.

How these alternative titles of thread sound to you? >>> Indeed, many variations >>>

Destabilization of Poland in defence of democracy

or

Demonization of Poland in global public for defence of democracy in Silesia

"OUR"........Says the the ex pat posting here that have their shorts in a knot.



The "insult trump card" is not going to make you a Polish citizen.
The Polish citizen majority have spoken with their vote which trumps an ex pats opinion.

....As long as they care about the future of banksters in this country.
Niech żyje Petru (za 2000 złotych)! Niech żyją zachodni bankierzy! Niech żyje Bruksela!


Why are the pro-bankster camp so disruptive and so bent on destabilising the country? Drawing throngs of people into the streets is asking for trouble because large crowds, even if billed as a peaceful demo, are hard to control and unpredictable and most anything can happen. Someone smashes a shop window or throws a brick......

One gets the impression that some of PF's sideliners (a certain D. for one) are just yearning for some excitement, a punch-up or better yet -- blood in the streets. Then they will deny any complicity and innocently say: But we were only defending "EUrocracy".


Precisely. Why is it that the KODites are bent solely on insulting the democratically elected president, PM and government, PiS and all decent, hard-working but woefully underpaid Poles who want onyl to live in a just and fair Poland, not a bankocracy!

Ex-President, who lost democratic elections early this year together with operatives (members of the youth organization of the previous regime) that started the first "KOD" demonstration.



Members of previous government (including 2 ex-PMs) that got booted out after the latest Parliamentary elections several weeks ago, leading the latest demonstration of a "non-partisan, non-political citizen's movement".

Its not good. Komorowski may represent voice of Polish nobility. Well, don`t worry Poles, if Intermarium become parliamentary monarchy, Serbians would give Crown.

Rather of Polish plebs.

O, that would be good then. Ok, Poles also can give Crown but i still thinks that would Djordjevic`s be the best choice.

Of course, those that want to see how many ordinary citizens turned out last week in Warsaw would be well advised to check this out :



Anyone that isn't a pro-government supporter can clearly see for themselves that this was a significant demonstration against the government.

Likely largely members of the previous regime's parties that have nearly 200 thousand members across the country.


Demonstration supporting the government was at least 3 times larger.

Not really. From what I saw, there were a lot of ordinary citizens that had lived through the PZPR once and didn't like PiS appointing endless ex-PZPR functionaries to top positions.


Now now Greggy. We have drone footage showing the size of the KOD demonstration. You, in return, posted footage of some people walking along Nowy Swiat - which means nothing when there's almost identical footage from the KOD demonstration the day before.

It's pretty obvious that the KOD demonstration in Warsaw last weekend was significantly bigger than the PiS one the next day, and it's also pretty obvious that the streets will be ours on Saturday.

And another one!

Tarnów - Rynek

Demonstrations on Saturday will be from West to East, North to South - all in the name of defending Polish democracy against this government and Duda.

Try this location - Bereza Kartuska - fitting.


That is a bare assed lie.

There's a flow of people walking for 15 min with no beginning and end of it in sight. There are tonnes of pictures and videos showing huge scale of it.


No it wasn't. The only one that claims it was, are the Warsaw city authorities (still held by the regime) which shows the method of manipulation.


You, foreigner, are involved in organizing the regime's demonstrations against the people, who have just won free and democratic elections. Your credibility i zero.


Why do you hate it so much, foreigner ?

Show us the aerial footage, Greggy. It's not that difficult, KOD managed it, so why can't you?


You're forgetting that they also revealed their methodology, while the police failed to do so despite repeated requests. It's also notable that the police first said over 50,000, then changed their mind the next day. And the police are controlled by....the Ministry of the Interior.


It's our country. It's our democratic right to demonstrate against a deeply suspicious government that prioritises giving Jarosław Kaczyński's friends top jobs over the ordinary people.

alright, delphe, enough with your provocations. i sending word to all Serbian, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian and Lithuanian patriotic forums over Sarmatian solidarity with Poles and Duda who suggest Intermarium. Now we shall see what would happen and who have more supporters

Another morning, and yet more demonstrations added to the already considerable list.

Grudziadz - Rynek Główny
Kielce - Urzad Wojewodzki

Again - I urge people to get out there. We need to defend our country against night raids, against abusive law breaking and most of all - to defend our Constitution.

This is not your country. You are a foreigner "working" to overthrow authorities democratically elected by Polish voters.

Who knows if that doesn't qualify as subversive activity. It's not without precedent, however. Adolf was an Austrian subject who started stirring up trouble in Germany. Michnik's best friend and co-ethnic, German paedophile Cohen-Bandit (misspelling intentional!), travelled to Paris to add petrol to the 1968 youth violence.

i`m not surprised with the events in Poland. Civilizations clashes. Its all part of global process


let us not forget Lenin, after all. He came from Germany to `enlighten` Russians.

What, with a five finger discount? Acquiring a second citizenship by naturalization results in the loss of previous citizenship:


rm.coe.int/CoERMPublicCommonSearchServices/DisplayDCTMContent?documentId=090000168006b659

Maybe you want to put that back before someone notices that it is gone and the U.K. revokes your British passport?

Why do you want the citizenship of a nationality that you hate? Was your life really that bad back in the U.K.?

It is time for the Polish government to end the influx of foreigners getting citizenship when they hate the country, its culture and values, and spout of communist anti-Polinist historiography.

No, son, it does not, as those of us who have done it know and as you would know if you'd looked at the date on that document you link to.


But we don't hate any of those things, as is shown by our actions. We are the ones going onto the streets to defend Poland and its culture and values.

Child, this is certainly not the case. The British and Polish authorities couldn't care less if someone is a dual citizen.


Why would anyone in the UK care, given that a huge amount of British people have dual citizenship with another country?


What a strange accusation to make.


A classic internet forum statement if there ever was one.


Quoting a document from 1963 when Poland joined the CoE in 1991 shows that he can add European law to the list of subjects that he knows nothing about.

Must get round to posting the final list of demonstrations tomorrow. Hamburg has joined us :)

Please do; I'm looking forward to seeing that.

The weather isn't looking too bad either. Tomorrow in Warsaw no rain but instead double digit temperatures!

HA HA HA HA HA!

A group of carpetbagging foreigners who still claim primary allegiance to foreign powers and wish to undermine Poland's democratically elected government should not hold Polish citizenship. The Polish government is now being petitioned to require foreigners who have accepted Polish citizenship to renounce foreign citizenship(s), or face penalties, including loss of citizenship. It is time to end this nonsense.

You can all love Poland or leave Poland.

Really? Can you provide details about that? I'd much like to join a protest in support of a proposed law saying that Polish citizens can only be Polish citizens.


Also shows how terrible his research skills are, although his reliance on Wikipedia had already shown us that.

You might also like to see this :

coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168007f2c8 - European Convention on Nationality


Looks like "Legal Eagle" can add the Council of Europe to the list of institutions of which he knows nothing.


Fortunately, here in Europe, the right to demonstrate and protest is considered a basic human right.


You do realise that such a law would hurt the ex-USSR Polonia considerably, and they would be very, very unhappy if the government tried to implement such a thing? For that reason, the government will have absolutely no interest in enacting such a thing, not that a one-man petition will actually change anything.


We love Poland. That's why we're taking to the streets tomorrow.

No need, I've already seen this:


eudo-citizenship.eu/InternationalDB/docs/UK%20Convention%20Reduction%20Multiple%20Nationality%201963%20(CETS%20043)%20Reservations.pdf
Care to guess which chapter the legal eagle quoted?


Along with hundreds of thousands of other people who choose to call Poland home. Plus thousands more who can't be here but still love Poland and will show that in cities round the world.

Yes, it is time for foreign subversives to make a choice: Love Poland or Leave Poland.


Yes, of course I can!


There are many like minded people in the U.K. After you leave Poland, feel free to join them and protest to your heart's content in the U.K., or maybe start your own group back in South Africa.

Polish government is now being petitioned to require foreigners who have accepted Polish citizenship to renounce foreign.

So where does that leave me , I have polish citizenship through both my parents who were exiled in the UK, i also have a british passport that allows visa free travel to the USA which is important to me. All sounds a bit undemocratic to start stripping peoples country, history /nationality from them, oh hang on that's what Stalin did to my parents.