Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.

Joy! Ha, ha, Poland`s man running for top UN job! Vuk Jeremic is Serbia`s candidate for the position of UN Secretary General. Only diplomat from Eastern Europe that has Polish and Russian support. On his previous job- President of UN GA, Jeremic also had exclusive Polish and Russian support.

Poland isn`t only democratic but is also extraordinary wise.

European Parliament to push for tougher action on Poland

You protesting idiots brought this upon yourself. Thankfully right-wing partner Hungary will reject any punishments.

They won't. Orban isn't an idiot - his power in Hungary depends on not irritating the EU, and Fidesz is also a member of the EPP that created this resolution. Relying on Orban to be loyal is about as stupid as it gets - he has good relations with Merkel and Germany, and he's not going to screw it up for the sake of Poland.


Brought what? We're quite happy for Poland to be sanctioned - people will certainly wake up when they realise that PiS is leading the country to international isolation and economic ruin.

Yeah right, as if half the town are talking about it public exposure doubtless on its way...

With PiS, you always have to ask Cui bono? It certainly isn't the people of Poland. One reason for the Polish pro-democracy movement is the people's natural concern that they are playing right into Russia's hands. Everything they say, everything they do.


A lot have, but of course most people just hate the instability. Remember the relief when PiS were kicked out mid-term? After just 17 months wasn't it. That evening the whole town was full of people celebrating.

How can you say that about a country you work in and claim to love? Sanctions against previous countries like Iran and North Korea have shown that the regime is barely effected - but the common citizens are.

Life is harder and less enjoyable under this regime - and dangerous too.

You really don't get it - for somebody who's always impressing us about his business trips, you might be a little more world wise.


Crow - the Serbians have less chance of being UN SC then I do.

They don't appoint people from murderous countries.

I'm an optimist. I'd like to believe that the Poles aren't as meek and easily brainwashed as the Russians are.

Photo shop can work wonders. You have one elephant, but zing, bang, boom, just reconfigure, replicate, re-pixelate, hit enter and presto --- you've got a herd of elephants, no, two herds, 20 herds, a thousand herds... it's endless. All thanks to modern technology.

You think all those hundreds of photos taken from different places and different angles were photoshopped? As conspiracies go, that one would be on such a scale that it would be history's biggest and best organised!

Perhaps they should have got Jolanta Solarz to pose in them too.

Try harder Po...

Life is hard everywhere, get used to it. Sanctions are only going to make it harder for the citizens - not the government officials.

Soros & Co. are up to any challenge, and you know it.


Cui bono? should above all asked about KOD, PO and Petru. Is their prime concern to return to power, using EU pressure and leverage to achieve that aim? Is it mainly to assuage the tempers of foreign interest groups who feel threatened by not having compliant PO-like toadies in power? Maybe a combination of the two. It certainly is not in the service of the Polish nation. Only PiSare cocnerend about repolonising commerce, banking, industry and culture, creating Polish brands and stopping the wholesale profit drain that has made foreign bigshots rich and turned Poles into hired mercenaries in their own country.


Europe's liberal-leftstream media force their one-sided view on the public and rarely worry about balanced reporting. Since the defeat of Poland's Western-business-friendly Civic Platform last October, Adam Michnik's tendentious, left-leaning "Gazeta Wyborcza" and TVN have highlighted only the opposition side of the constitutional dispute and other controversies. As for the opposing government side, mainly quotes have been taken out of context and cited to reinforce the leftstream's anti-government narrative. Such views have been readily echoed by influential Western media, and that one-sided narrative has also served as the basis of European Union criticism of Poland's government. Apparently objective coverage - fully presenting both sides of the question - are no longer part of "the free and independent press", in which the Western establishment still prides itself.

Perhaps they can try the time travel needed to make some of your statements here true?


So far their Polish brand creation count stands at -1, after they managed to destroy the Polish Arab horse brand. Their efforts in banking have led to Polish consumers paying higher fees. The less said about their efforts in commerce, the better (if we don't talk about it, maybe fewer investors will look for opportunities outside Poland rather than risking their money here). Although they are trying to have a very positive effect on the profits of one industry, the back-street abortion industry, which can look forward to even higher profits and even higher demand. And one really should also note the way the lovers of PIS have pretty much stopped any profits at all in many of the companies where they have removed competent staff and replaced them with idiots whose only qualification is unswerving loyalty to the Party.

Very 1933....... without the bullets, but still the firing, and the stab in the back. Other country, same nationalist clowns.

The European Parliament have predictably issued a resolution accusing Poland's conservative government of paralysing the country's Constitutional Tribunal. Echoing the attacks launched against the government by political forces that lost the last election, the EP expressed its concern that "the effective paralysis of the Constitutional Tribunal in Poland poses a danger to democracy, human rights and the rule of law." In January, the European Union launched an unprecedented surveillance procedure against Poland over legislative changes introduced by the Law and Justice (PiS) government. The the pro-Polish PiS camp wants Poles to have more say in their country's affairs, but foreign-interest groups backed by the EU feel threatened and long for the former regime that gave them special tax breaks nad preferential treatment not extended to Polish business.

Possibly, but the problem is that PIS is utterly dominated by the pro-PIS camp, the Teraz K*rwa My crew who put Party before country and personal enrichment and score settling first, second and third, with the good of Poland not even registering on their list of priorities. There must be pro-Polish people in PIS but they are very hard to spot, which is not surprising, given that any member of PIS who considered putting Poland before The Dead Leader Chairman Kaczynski would not be a member of PIS for much longer.

one goes with accord with another...removing any traces of PO trash it itself good for Poland.its crucial for Polands well being.
first things first Harry...remove former commies and corrupt trash from power then reform country.its not score setting,its necessity

I'm afraid Donald Tusk will be the first one, do you want to bet on that or you don't want to lose any more money because of me?

aka Merkel's lap dog

So in effect nationalistic.

I wonder about the much vaunted (by you) return to Catholic moral values sits with them in the light of Duda's personal life.

Full Definition of nationalism - merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalism

Loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups

dictionary.com/browse/nationalism
1. spirit or aspirations common to the whole of a nation.
2. devotion and loyalty to one's own country; patriotism.

Nothing wrong with being a nationalist - highest form of loyalty, pride and patriotism in your own people. Much better than selling out to foreigners and promoting foreign cultures' when your own is so great and beautiful.

Except it doesn't work in the long time, because as history shows, nationalism always leads to people turning on their own.

Russia is a splendid example of this today.

Europe, including Poland, has suffered in the past through nationalism and nationalist politics is, rightly, off-putting to many.


You seem to by trying to present it as an 'either/or' situation whereas in fact polls show that Poland is one of those EU member states which supports the Union most.

Moderation always defeats extremism in the end.

Russia is just being ruined by sanctions and low oil prices. Nonetheless, Putin instilled a sense of nationalism and pride in the people and he still enjoys very high approval ratings.

Serbia is a very nationalist country as well, and even Poland to an extent. Although yes, the nationalists will turn on their own kind if they feel they are 'patriotic' enough or get an inkling that an individual could be doing something contrary to the benefit of the nation.

There are a few examples though where nationalist ideals have remained popular - although these countries are considered pariahs (sometimes fairly, sometimes not) - North Korea, China, Iran, and in smaller circles Greece, Albania, Serbia, and Israel - where extreme nationalism is essentially government sponsored.

So what?

Most people are not nationalistic and it is always heartening to see the Polish pro-democracy rallies where decent people reject extremism.

A couple of quotes regarding nationalism













And last but not least, the Polish papa



Nationalism is bullsh!t, its followers are pondscum with the brain power of walnuts

@Smurf!: good to read you again! :) As to your quotations, the one "by" de Gaulle came in fact from someone else (maybe from Guillaume Apolinaire, a French writer of Polish origin (true and I'm not off topic ;)) in the early 20th century) but never mind, everybody says it in France and it does make sense ...;).

Quite recently lowercase was saying how no-one should shine the spotlight on child-support-shirker Kijowski. Whose business is anyone's persional life? protesteth lowercase. Has he now done an about-turn?

That's just stupid. Too much nationalism is bad but a society with no nationalism (ie group cohesion and loyalty) will die sooner rather than later (and good riddance).

Genuine patriotism (like the American model) can do the job perfectly well, I think. The problem is that in Poland, people don't seem to understand that patriotism involves helping elderly neighbours and suchlike.

When Gen. De Gaulle was retiring a British reporter asked Madam de Daulle what she looked forward to during retirement. She replied: "A penis!" The reporter was understandably shaken but the general chimed in saying: "My dear, I think it's pronounced 'appiness'."